[abhinav.s]

Originally Posted by sachinayak

However no ownership reviews that i have come across. Any thoughts anyone has around the Jupiter? How does it fare as a regular city commuter? Are there any engine-related issues for this (remember vaguely reading somewhere that the engine was not up to the mark vis-a-vis the Honda/Suzuki offerings)?

Jupiter is nothing but Wego in different clothes. It is the same engine, transmission, alloys in a different body style and should be slightly lighter as its not all metal body like the Wego. There are no engine issues reported AFAIK even from the initial lot of Wego's. Of course there were very many niggles which are all sorted out from 2012 second half onwards. Jupiter also has the advantage of tubeless tyres straight from the factory.

Like TMRT said, you have ruled out all offerings currently in India for one reason or the other! So you better take a test ride of some of the scooters before striking them off the list. Yamaha Ray is a brilliant package at that price and the floor board space may be a few cms less compared to the other scooters. You get very good build quality, light weight, well handling scooter. Same with Swish. It has very good handling though the FE could be slightly lesser than others. Happy choosing!

[ghodlur]

Originally Posted by sachinayak

Need something with good suspension, decent mileage and looks, besides space in front.

but the foot space is not much, and this is a primary requirement as i typically pick up groceries in bulk.

Gearless scooters arent meant for transporting bulk groceries, I think you have confused the requirement.

Regarding your other requirment of Good suspensions & decent mileage with looks, Wego/Jupiter, Maestro, Swish/Access would fit the bill. Since you have pretty much ticked off most of the scooters presently available in the market, the only ones left to check out are the Hero Maestro & Mahindra Duro/Rodeo. If looks are a concern, you can try Honda Dio too.

[sachinayak]

Originally Posted by abhinav.s

...you have ruled out all offerings currently in India for one reason or the other! So you better take a test ride of some of the scooters before striking them off the list.

Frankly, except for the Honda offerings (more for the service than the actual vehicle) all options are still open. Will definitely need to take a test-ride before ticking off the list. The Wego would have been on the list, if not for the Jupiter. The later offers the same as the Wego with slightly more palatable looks, so why not go for the newer option.

Originally Posted by ghodlur

Gearless scooters arent meant for transporting bulk groceries, I think you have confused the requirement.

Well, buying ~20 kgs of veggies is a weekly/bi-weekly ritual, and the primary use of my current two-wheeler. I get it from the wholesale market where my car cannot reach. Not ideal, but is a practical requirement. Hence looking for a large footboard space.

[ghodlur]

Originally Posted by sachinayak

Well, buying ~20 kgs of veggies is a weekly/bi-weekly ritual, and the primary use of my current two-wheeler. I get it from the wholesale market where my car cannot reach. Not ideal, but is a practical requirement. Hence looking for a large footboard space.

I dont think any scooter in India would offer huge footboard space to accomodate that kind of luggage. Also with such a huge luggage and no footboard space left to place your legs, wouldnt it be sort of unsafe. It will be a fight to even place two big carrybags.

[TMRT]

Originally Posted by sachinayak

...Well, buying ~20 kgs of veggies is a weekly/bi-weekly ritual, and the primary use of my current two-wheeler. I get it from the wholesale market where my car cannot reach. Not ideal, but is a practical requirement. Hence looking for a large footboard space.

True.

My Activa and streak are very much used for market groceries and the sole reason I own scooters instead of unicorns or pulsars or other flashy sleek and fashionable bikes. I can't imagine taking car out through crowded market lanes once or twice each week. If the space isn't' a requirement even the new Vespa beats looks of many other scooters.

[mukundsb]

Went to TVS Showroom in chennai and took test ride on Jupiter.... Liked it very much... The following is the beaekdown on the quote I have received...

Cost - 44181
Ins/ Regn/ RTO - 7327
Num. Plate - 131
beaper - 546
CrashGuard - 1500
VAT - 6722

On-Road price - 60,500
In addition for address proof affidavit 650 and Other Charges - 325 for RTO it seems

Many of my friends say this is on the higher side. Please help in which area are these folks getting the customer for the ride???

Those who have booked already are these in-line with what you have paid

[mp417]

Last Saturday I went to TVS showroom to take a test ride of Jupiter as I am looking to add another scooter to family. After using Wego for last two years, I compared it directly with Wego based on my experience. Wego has never given any trouble in last 2 years. My overall ownership experience has been very good. We also have 2003 Scooty ES and it is serving my Dad very well. I really don’t like Activa and Access for some reasons. Also TVS in theory has always provided better features in less cost. I feel TVS has always come up with true VFM products (at least in scooter segment).

See the Jupiter vs Activa comparison in the end. Here are my observations after the test ride.

1. Color: Test drive vehicle was red color. It looks really nice with Red and Black combination. Black alloy is a master touch. However color choice is very subjective.
2. Fit and finish: top notch. Better than Wego. I could not find any panel gaps. The Muffler or exhaust pipe is covered very well. Better than Wego. Jupiter is also bigger than Wego.
3. Engine and pickup: though it is same Wego engine, it is tuned better. Very peppy, less noise. Pick up is better than Wego.
4. Suspension: Similar to Wego. Very comfortable. Telescopic suspension makes a lot of difference.
5. Handling: I found Wego’s handling better than Jupiter.
6. Features: The Economy and Power mode indicator is a nice touch. Found it very good during my test drive. Retractable bag hooks is another good feature. In case you have to carry lot of things on foot board then the hooks won’t obstruct. Front Leg space is larger than Wego and all other scooters. Pass by switch. A first in scooter segment is very useful. Under seat storage is bigger than Wego. Both scooters can hold my full face helmet (medium size). In Jupiter there is still space available to store small items.

Issues observed,
1. External fuel lid: the demo vehicle fuel lid was not closing properly. I had to make three attempts to shut it completely. It has similar mechanism as Wego. May be it was the problem with demo vehicle only. I think wego’s external fuel lid position is better than Jupiter.
2. Body balance: Not sure whether Jupiter has body balance. I am used to Wego’s body balance and it works very well. Jupiter is built on Wego’s chassis so the overall balance is good. Definitely better than Activa.

Got following quotation from two dealers. There’s small difference in how they breakup the total cost.

Dealer 1 – Century Automobiles, Bhandarkar road
Ex showroom: 48419
RTO + registration: 4111
Insurance: 1567
RC smart card: 350
Standard accessories: 838
Total: 55285
Extra accessories: 2350
Waiting period: Less than 3 months (normally delivered in 1.5 months). 5000 booking amount.

Dealer 2: The Shelar TVS, Paud Road
Ex showroom: 49257
RTO + registration: 4111
Insurance: 1567
RC smart card: 350
Total: 55285
Extra accessories: 3500
Extended warranty 3rd year: 640
Waiting period: around 3 months. With full payment at the time of booking.

[prokinetic]

Originally Posted by sachinayak

Well, buying ~20 kgs of veggies is a weekly/bi-weekly ritual, and the primary use of my current two-wheeler. I get it from the wholesale market where my car cannot reach. Not ideal, but is a practical requirement. Hence looking for a large footboard space.

Originally Posted by ghodlur

I dont think any scooter in India would offer huge footboard space to accomodate that kind of luggage. Also with such a huge luggage and no footboard space left to place your legs, wouldnt it be sort of unsafe. It will be a fight to even place two big carrybags.

Originally Posted by TMRT

My Activa and streak are very much used for market groceries and the sole reason I own scooters instead of unicorns or pulsars or other flashy sleek and fashionable bikes. I can't imagine taking car out through crowded market lanes once or twice each week.

Vegetables and groceries are daily routine.
Imagine 2 gunny bags 25kg each containing wheat.
A full size bag of Birla cement.
Taking an empty lpg cylinder and bringing back a full one.
This is not done often, but a scooter comes handy when situations arise. Scooter in question, the Ki-Ho.

[ghodlur]

On 14th December 2013, I had got my Activa serviced as per the regular servicing schedule. Upon getting the delivery, I found heavy marks on the front bumper rear side. Upon enquiry I was told that these are the marks due to acid leaks. I argued saying that this wasnt there when I gave the scooter for servicing, but the SA was adamant that I was responsible for the marks. I spoke to the workshop Manager and the owner (Whom I know very well) who graciously accepted the mistake and agreed to give me the bumper repainted. Attaching the pics of the scarred bumper.

I had known that the battery of the Activa was on the deathbed coz even after the morning ritual of kick starting the scooter, the battery never used to retain the charge to allow battery start. Hence changed the battery to Amaron. Costed me Rs 1250/- in exchange for the old battery. The two morning starts with the battery have been successful till date. The abttery comes with 2yr normal warranty + 2yr prorata warranty. Attaching the battery pics too.

[TMRT]

Originally Posted by ghodlur

On 14th December 2013, I had got my Activa serviced as per the regular servicing schedule. Upon getting the delivery, I found heavy marks on the front bumper rear side. .........Hence changed the battery to Amaron. Costed me Rs 1250/- in exchange for the old battery. The two morning starts with the battery have been successful till date. The abttery comes with 2yr normal warranty + 2yr prorata warranty. Attaching the battery pics too.

I have the same ACID marks due to leakage of battery on my Activa front bumper from the date of delivery of the vehicle although they are hidden until you turn the wheel around. So didn't bother. The original first battery lasted barely less than a year. Got it replaced for just 100 RS as it was under warranty. Recently also got my streak battery replaced with an Amco one for 1250 RS along with starter relay for 359. Unfortunately both were out of warranty as Streak has just crossed two years.

[ghodlur]

Originally Posted by TMRT

I have the same ACID marks due to leakage of battery on my Activa front bumper from the date of delivery of the vehicle although they are hidden until you turn the wheel around.

Yes, they were hidden allright but the workshop had the cheekiness to put the blame on me for the acid spillage. Above that when I enquired how much acid did they put, they themselves had confirmed that they did just the top up of distilled water and no acid was added. In all they gave me the front bumper completely repainted, had to keep the scooter for a couple of days at the workshop.

But now its bye bye to acid batteries, Amaron is a maintenance free sealed battery.

[TMRT]

Originally Posted by ghodlur

Yes, they were hidden allright but the workshop had the cheekiness to put the blame on me for the acid spillage. Above that when I enquired how much acid did they put, they themselves had confirmed that they did just the top up of distilled water and no acid was added. In all they gave me the front bumper completely repainted, had to keep the scooter for a couple of days at the workshop. But now its bye bye to acid batteries, Amaron is a maintenance free sealed battery.

Especially your Activa is quite bright and light in color to make these acid spots quite visible. Mine do not show up at first glance since I have a gray body. Good to know about the maintenance free batteries. Next time Amarons it will be for the replacement.

[audioholic]

Originally Posted by ghodlur

I had known that the battery of the Activa was on the deathbed coz even after the morning ritual of kick starting the scooter, the battery never used to retain the charge to allow battery start. Hence changed the battery to Amaron. Costed me Rs 1250/- in exchange for the old battery. The two morning starts with the battery have been successful till date. The abttery comes with 2yr normal warranty + 2yr prorata warranty. Attaching the battery pics too.

You got a 5Ah battery?

Btw for those who have the old batteries which need water topup, regularly ensure that the drain pipe is connected and leads all the way down to the lowest part of the scooter. This pipe usually gets disconnected due to bumps and vibration and will cause acid spillage. Recently I took up the job of redoing the electricals of my old wave and discovered that the pipe had fallen somewhere and that led to the acid spilling on the bodyframe. The entire part had corroded. Brought some tubing and routed it all the way till the center stand from the engine compartment so that it wont spill on any of the vehicle parts.

[ghodlur]

Originally Posted by audioholic

You got a 5Ah battery?

Yes, I did get a 5Ah battery model ABR-PR-12APBTX50 Pro Bike rider.

+1 to what you said reg the drain pipe. Actually there is a slot in the battery housing for the drain pipe to run and the length of the pipe is small which causes the acid to spill on the front bumper rear side. I have seen the batteries in the Honda workshops to be topped up more that requirement and many a times the knobs on the batteries arent tightened enough which causes the distilled water to spill when going over bumps and along with it acid too.

[S_U_N]

Our Suzuki Access has got one of the hose pipes cracked. The mechanic indicated that this is for the air filter. A replacement has been ordered.
See highlighted circle in photo.




Meanwhile, we are planning to replace Access with Activa. How much will a 11000 KM run Access fetch? The vehicle will complete 3 years in March (after two months).