[ghodlur]

Originally Posted by abhinav.s

Saw a Red Swish on road. It looks much better than Access at least on the looks front though the tech specs are the same. It is not as rotund as the Access and looks better from up front.

+1 to that. I had seen both of them at Suzuki showroom and could hardly find any major difference. Even the prices are almost same with a difference of 500/- (Thane). Does the new Swish mean an phase out of Access, even the showroom guys dont have a clue as they still continue accepting the bookings for both.

[abhinav.s]

Originally Posted by ghodlur

Does the new Swish mean an phase out of Access, even the showroom guys dont have a clue as they still continue accepting the bookings for both.

Remember reading an interview with Suzuki 2 wheelers CEO or some senior person online. They are keeping both Swish and Access and they dont mind which sells better as long as the overall sales of scooters increase. Of course this is not verbatim but what he said was on those similar lines. They want to target youngsters with the Swish!

[Revved Soul]

Fellow BHPians,
I have finally booked the new Honda Dio(matte grey one),very excited.It cost me Rs.48,500 with all the accessories which include a steelbird helmet,seat cover,foot rest and grip covers.It sure is a looker !

Will keep you all updated with pics and will soon write a review.
Just can`t wait to get my hands on it..!

[Positron]

I am looking to get my dad a new gear-less scooter. Just to give you some background: My dad is 72. Ideally we don't want him to ride anything, especially a scooter. He has a new Eon, hoping he would take the more compact car, but he still prefers his old Scooty Pep+ to go to the town 5 kms away. But the Scooty is literally falling apart. Knowing how much he loves his freedom and mobility, I can't ask him to quit riding, but may be I can get him something safer? Something a bit more comfortable and a lot more reliable.

So that' my criteria I suppose. A gear-less scooter for an older gentleman, something light and easy to handle, ride and park, and something safe and relatively trouble free.

After reading many dozens of pages on this thread, is TVS Wego the one? Much appreciate comments / thoughts.

[ghodlur]

Originally Posted by Positron

but may be I can get him something safer? Something a bit more comfortable and a lot more reliable.
A gear-less scooter for an older gentleman, something light and easy to handle, ride and park, and something safe and relatively trouble free.

Looking at your requirments, apart from Wego I would suggest Suzuki Swish/Access or Hero Maestro. Both are lighter in weight. if it has to be maintenance free then you can think of Honda Dio (new). The body graphics will make him look like a teenager.

[ani_meher]

Yes. Lighter = Access, though it is pretty fast accelerating. Dio will not suit a senior rider, really. Aviator should not be in the list, as it is pretty heavy ergonomics wise. I have both Access and Aviator, and Access feels really like a toy after handling Aviator. Wife got a big shoulder pain because of wrong pulling of Aviator from parking.

So I would suggest Activa or Access/Swish, depending on whether you want power or not.

[Positron]

Thank you both for the suggestions. just want to add that many decades ago he used to ride a Bajaj Chetak (yes, hamara bajaj.. ), but he has been riding the tiny Scooty Pep for a few years now - which I think is 70 cc or something like that - so I am concerned even moving up a 100+ cc scooter might be too heavy for him, or would that be okay?

[ghodlur]

Originally Posted by Positron

Thank you both for the suggestions. just want to add that many decades ago he used to ride a Bajaj Chetak (yes, hamara bajaj.. ), but he has been riding the tiny Scooty Pep for a few years now - which I think is 70 cc or something like that - so I am concerned even moving up a 100+ cc scooter might be too heavy for him, or would that be okay?

If your father does not do much city riding and does solo trips often then even the e-bikes can be looked at. Very light weight, does not need licence however limited mileage etc. The only drawback would be provision of charging point and the maintenance. Check out the links.
BSA Motors Electric Scooters Range | E-Bikes Range | Battery Operated Electric Scooters
.: Hero Electric :.

[S_U_N]

Originally Posted by Positron

but he has been riding the tiny Scooty Pep for a few years now - which I think is 70 cc or something like that - so I am concerned even moving up a 100+ cc scooter might be too heavy for him, or would that be okay?

How tall is he? If he is around 5 - 5.5 feet, then Access seat will appear slightly higher than Activa. Also, Access has a mad acceleration and a harsh ride quality. I suggest go with Activa or better still Pleasure or electric bike.

[Mpower]

Originally Posted by Positron

Thank you both for the suggestions. just want to add that many decades ago he used to ride a Bajaj Chetak (yes, hamara bajaj.. ), but he has been riding the tiny Scooty Pep for a few years now - which I think is 70 cc or something like that - so I am concerned even moving up a 100+ cc scooter might be too heavy for him, or would that be okay?

Just get another Scooty Pep and be done with it. Its an excellent vehicle for the purpose. Everything else is heavier and harder to ride. If it ani't broke, don't mess with it.

[Positron]

Thanks again for the comments & suggestions.

I am huge fan of electric bikes and cars, and I am hoping to replace my 600cc Fazer with an Brammo Empluse or Honda RC-E etc (if they ever come out) in a few years, but after reading thru the specs of all the electric scooters linked above, I am not sure if they are good enough really. Only one of them (e-sprint) does 45 kmph, which I would imagine is the minimum you need to stay safe on the roads these days where there's so much reckless driving going on. And that peak performance is only when the battery is 100%, and beyond that its sluggish probably won't handle the steep hills of Kerala. (there's another detailed thread here in team-bhp that lists all the issues with e-sprint).

He's 5' 6", but I suppose age related frailty is crucial. I like the idea of another Scooty Pep. If he's fine with that shape, size and power, yeah it makes sense to give him a new version of exactly that. I might just do that, but I was hoping there's something better than Pep, may be not?!

PS: Probably no to Activa considering how hard it is to get one. So it's Access, Pep or Wego right?

[Mpower]

Originally Posted by Positron

So it's Access, Pep or Wego right?

Pep is the only scooter in its segment (mini scooter or scoterette)

Access and Wego are much larger, higher seating and heavier.

For someone who's 72 yo & 5'6", its a no brainer. Else have him go and test ride all 3 and decide for himself.

[ghodlur]

Got my Activa serviced yesterday, costed me Rs 590/- for the service which included changing the oil (185/-), air filter (259/-) and the labour costs. The engine now sounds super smooth. What is the normal frequency of air filter replacment? The old one which was replaced had turned total black.

My Activa has a perenial problem of the side stand losing its alignment, anybody faced this issue?

[ani_meher]

Originally Posted by Positron

I am huge fan of electric bikes and cars, and I am hoping to replace my 600cc Fazer with an Brammo Empluse or Honda RC-E etc (if they ever come out) in a few years, but after reading thru the specs of all the electric scooters linked above, I am not sure if they are good enough really. Only one of them (e-sprint) does 45 kmph, which I would imagine is the minimum you need to stay safe on the roads these days where there's so much reckless driving going on. And that peak performance is only when the battery is 100%, and beyond that its sluggish probably won't handle the steep hills of Kerala. (there's another detailed thread here in team-bhp that lists all the issues with e-sprint).

In short I would advise you to stay clear of electric bike. They are superb as long as they are running, but once any problem creeps up, even as mundane as a puncture, you are screwed. Very few puncture shops are willing to touch a electric bike because it's engine connection is on the rear wheel. Also the service centers are far away from one another, and you are completely at their mercy for any repairs. I have a electric scooter yo speed, and trust me, when I got an Aviator to replace it, I became happy once again. Electric bikes are problematic in long run, and I would never recommend any friend to buy it.

I liked the new scooty pep idea too. It is best to keep the same bike in new format than to completely change the ride.

[girishglg]

Originally Posted by Positron

He's 5' 6", but I suppose age related frailty is crucial. I like the idea of another Scooty Pep. If he's fine with that shape, size and power, yeah it makes sense to give him a new version of exactly that. I might just do that, but I was hoping there's something better than Pep, may be not?!

PS: Probably no to Activa considering how hard it is to get one. So it's Access, Pep or Wego right?

You can also consider the Hero Pleasure. In a similar situation my friend replaced his mother's aeging Activa with the Pleasure. The good thing about it is that it feels slightly smaller than the other options (read Activa, Wego) and most importantly it is also fibre/ plastic body which makes it lighter.

It has the tried and tested 100cc motor which has been in the millions of Hero Hondas and till recently Activas ( Activa uprated to 110cc) and backed by the solid service network of Hero Moto Corp, it is a very credible option. Also for the price you pay it is the most VFM of the lot considering you pay similar amount of money for a Scooty which is smaller. Would suggest go and check it out and then decide.

My friends mom is quite happy with the ride till date for a year now. The biggest plus is that it is available off shelf without any waiting period what so ever.