[swapnil.awate]

1. Better if you sell Tiago and buy any small EV - Comet, Tiago, Punch etc. whichever you are comfortable with. You are perfect candidate for EV as you already have a highway muncher in XUV700.
2. Sell both two wheelers and buy Ather Rizta. Overall it feels better engineered and has their own charging infrastructure which is handy.

[sapien]

First of all, I want to sincerely thank all here for providing such insightful suggestions, but as I see the voting results and member comments their's no single majority. The votes are so diverse and divided, exactly like my mind

Originally Posted by salluks

Had the same situation last year and went with Iqube. If I had to remake the decision today I would honestly sell all 3 vehicles and instead buy MG comet(or BYD Seagull if it existed here). it however depends on children(if u have).

• How's the iQube holding up, and I do have a baby and a pet - I would like to understand the dependency though.
• As BYD has been facing govt regulation challenges, I think MG's SUV version of Comet is the one to wait for. Or maybe Tata or M&M come up with a proper small EV, next generation Tiago.ev is a good candidate.

Originally Posted by travelhead

I learnt it the hard way after I bought a scooter for office and city commutes (45kms a day).

Is the stunner comfortable to ride in city ? If it's in good condition and can handle the bad roads then good to continue with it.

If you want a new vehicle for city (and occasional 1 day trips) I would suggest you to buy something with long suspension travel (like Himalayan, Scrambler 400x etc).

• Which scooter did you buy ?
• Stunner is fairly comfortable but lacks power being a 125 cc conservatively tuned 16 year old Honda.
• It's an irony that for City Roads we have to look for off road purpose bikes like Himalayan! I might go for Scram 440 or Classic 350 in that case.

Originally Posted by AulusGabinius

A Rizta 2.9 kWh Z carries a premium of 26,000 over a similarly equipped Suzuki Access, and maybe a little more over a TVS Jupiter 125. That's approximately 58 tanks of fuel, or about 15,000 km worth of fuel with the minor hassle of fuelling once a week, vs. initial range anxiety and plugging in every night. So if the cost is what you think you'll save, then that's what's worth considering IMO.

This is one of the factors why I have kept ICE as an option. Mind is not able to make that leap i.e. to ensure every time before you go out there is enough charge. Honda's newest EVs are kind of solving that problem at the cost of under-seat utility space.

Originally Posted by GTO

The weather is getting way too H-O-T and I've never agreed with using a 2-wheeler as a daily ride due to safety reasons (especially since you have the option of affording a car).

An EV is perfect for your use case. Either a Tiago EV or even better, the Punch EV . You anyway keep your cars for long, so buy the better car (Punch EV) and enjoy the drive.

Thanks GTO, indeed it's getting hot. Punch is slightly higher than what I intend to spend right now on an EV. Maybe if purchase is delayed by a year, some more small car EV options will be available.

Originally Posted by shankar.balan

My money is absolutely on MG Comet.

Good to know about MG's service, I'll wait for Comet's SUV version.

Originally Posted by ike

Since you have a Tiago that is getting old, I'd suggest to go in for an MG comet and let go of the Tiago. I haven't driven one but that size should be super convenient in the city and your wife would be able to manage it effortlessly as well.

Thanks, if any personal experience w.r.t a comfortable scooter or a car, please share.

Originally Posted by BullettuPaandi

I think keeping the old Dio with upgraded suspension, would still be worth it at least to serve as a back-up.

This is what I am leaning towards for now after reading all the comments.

Originally Posted by 100Kmphormore

Depends on your age and fitness. I would straightaway go for a 2 wheeler considering the maddening traffic these days. Go for the RTR200 4V without hesitation.
Get rid of the Dio. It literally has no suspension travel and my skeleton-like built friend could feel every bit of the road.

So lesser the Age, more tilted towards 2 wheels or vice versa ? Dio is indeed harsh on the back. Apache is not in consideration, if I do decide to go for a powerful bike, it might be something like Triumph 400 twins, Harley 440 or Classic 350.

Originally Posted by arjunsatheesh

I know people who are ditching their big vehicles(even 2-wheelers) for the Comet.

Thanks, if any personal experience w.r.t a comfortable scooter or a car, please share.

Originally Posted by KSTejaswi

If you find these suggestions suitable, there's no need to upgrade the car at all. An 8 year old car is now fully paid for, and as long as it works well, it deserves its spot. Office transport does the daily grind, Dio does the short hops to markets, etc. Tiago does the occassional office or intra-city runs and the XUV does the leisure trips/highway duties.

This is the status quo.

Originally Posted by rvd8732

In the meantime, I have also booked Ultraviolet Tesseract; I have about 10 more months before I decided either to buy or take a refund.

Tesseract is a great proposition but then so is River Indie, but both of them are 1st gen products and I'd rather bet on at least 2nd Gen products for something like an EV.

Originally Posted by Phantom 510

I would suggest you to restore the Dio, a fresh coat of paint, set of new tyres, check the electricals, replace the suspension and keep it running. It will be a good project too. These scooters are bulletproof and hardly breaks down. No wonder it served you for so many years. Lastly, saving that money is not a bad thing IMO.

I am planning to do that as a backup.

Originally Posted by dicor

Result - EV is the best bet.

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Loved your detailed analysis and different cases and outcomes in each. EV is indeed a winner in terms of cost in long run. Some more added advantages are,

• Smoother drive.
• Lesser day to day maintenance.
• Green image - not sure of this though as we might be just redistributing the pollution from cities to somewhere near power producing plants.

Disadvantages -

• Need to ensure sufficient charge before every trip. Honda is trying to solve this via battery banks at the cost of under-seat utility space.
• Battery degradation.

Originally Posted by swapnil.awate

1. Better if you sell Tiago and buy any small EV - Comet, Tiago, Punch etc. whichever you are comfortable with. You are perfect candidate for EV as you already have a highway muncher in XUV700.
2. Sell both two wheelers and buy Ather Rizta. Overall it feels better engineered and has their own charging infrastructure which is handy.

Thanks, if any personal experience w.r.t a comfortable scooter or a car, please share.


Overall, this is my current line of thought -

• Check how transport service is at the workplace, this has several benefits as listed by the members above.
• If transport is good, wait for a year, more EV options shall be available then - both 2/4 wheels.
• Redo / upgrade Dio's suspension- appreciate any pointers in Pune for same.

Till then keep the suggestions flowing

[MartinVirage]

1. Get an City Beater Car.
2. Sell either one of the bikes and keep the other one. Both will go for a little more then scrap value. My vote is to keep the Dio - Cheaper to maintain over the long run. As mentioned earlier 5000 is enough for the suspension overhaul. I have an Activa from 2004 used for shorter. Did a major service a couple of months back - Probably the best decision. You can probably fit the gas filled Jupiter rear suspension for the Dio (about 1.2k) and the front suspension can be overhauled will probably give a decent ride.
And lets not get carried away - For your 'short' commutes spending 50K Delta on a new EV scooter over any ICE's does'nt make sense.

[CloserToTheEdge]

For your Dio, check out Excel Auto. It is in Kothrud, near Mahatma society.

[Comrade]

Buy a city car. My recommendation in descending order: Comet > Punch.ev > eC3 > Tiago.ev. Comet is the best for these purposes as the second or third car only for cities. Tiago.ev comes last as you already have a Tiago so changing the model makes you retain the new car longer, and if going with Tata, Punch, anyday, is a better product than Tiago.

For groceries, continue using Dio as-is or get a quote for rehauling the suspension & go from there. Rehauling suspension should not be a tough job. But interestingly, Comet can also take over this duty, and maybe Dio can be disposed if you find Comet has taken over the grocery duties.

Honda Stunner - Can't argue with sentiments. So its completely fine if you want to retain it for keep sake. If not, don't renew registration as you are estimating renewal costs are almost same as it's resale value. In my experience, we under-estimate outflow and over-estimate inflow. So it may turn out that money was actually wasted.

[VW2010]

Am I just being materialistic!

Aren't we all.

Keep your latest XUV and sell all the other 3. Get a decent two-wheeler for local riding and maybe office trips. You do not need all 4 vehicles as per your description.

The new place that I am joining is likely to have a paid transport service.

Nothing is better than office transport to start and return at a scheduled time. I prefer this over everything else.

If at all, ego doesn't allow you to take paid transport, get XPulse, and enjoy the luxury of that suspension. I am not in favor of EV for your needs.

[Livnletcarsliv]

I have 2 different suggestions here based on your situation.

2-wheel EVs are the best when it comes to City use - only if your commute is 25km 2-way. If it's 25km 1-way, then your back will go for a toss on the long run, based on your age and other factors.

1. Sell both the Hondas and get the iQube/Rizta/Chetak based on your liking. You cannot go wrong with any of the 3. Thereby, you can hold on to your Tiago for some more time - replacing one 4-wheeler with another doesn't make financial sense while your parking woes are also unaltered. During rainy times (just three months), you already have your 700 AT to manage the city traffic.

2. Sell the bike + Tiago and get the Comet/Tiago/Punch EV. Just do the overhaul of your Dio, which will NOT cost a bomb - Take it to the Honda SC and they will take care. Choosing this option may displease/disappoint your wife (as you've mentioned) and will also be a financial burden - buying a new 4-wheeler EV. Comfort-wise wise for purely city use, the Comet EV is better than any 2-wheeler, but bad for City traffic because end of the day, it's still a 4-wheeler

[rAijin_]

Why not just opt for the Company paid transport?

For daily commuting to Office, 4 wheeler is always preferred as compared to 2 wheeler. But a company transport is way better and cheaper. You can even take a nap if stuck in traffic (which you will everyday).