[SoumenD]

So after 5 years of teasing & rumours of getting a 250/300/400/440 heart, Xpulse finally gets the 210cc from XMR. Highway ride-ability should improve with this one. TFT screen & switchable abs are good additions. Price would surely bump up a bit but considering how VFM xpulse is, this should sell well.

If Xtreme and Karizma got the 250, Xpulse too could have got that right? Why did they stop at 210 I wonder?

[FlankerFury]

Originally Posted by Senotrius

Well, they could have given the Xpulse the 250cc treatment as well. Would have just flattened the competition that way.

Originally Posted by SoumenD

If Xtreme and Karizma got the 250, Xpulse too could have got that right? Why did they stop at 210 I wonder?

I was wondering that too, would've standardised the engine and streamlined production and supplies of spares. Then I remembered that the current Karizma is a 210 and discontinuing it so soon wouldn't be fair for the one's who put their faith and money on the product.

On the other hand, there's now sufficient gap to position the forever-rumoured Xpulse 400 (assuming it'd make 35-40PS).

Edit:- found this, Hero to unveil Xpulse 420 concept at EICMA.
Yes it's still a concept. Production version likely to be unveiled in 2026.

Said to be built around a brand new platform along with brand new 420cc liquid cooled engine and cycle parts. More information can be found in the below link.
https://www.bikewale.com/news/exclus...icma-tomorrow/

[Vikram9193]

170 kg kerb weight for the new 210, as per Rishaad Mody. That’s closer to the KTMs than my 4V! I bought the XPulse because weight is easy to manage, this one could’ve been a nice upgrade. Oh well.

[Rudraksh]

The Xpulse 210 is a great upgrade, with a TFT dash, Modes, and all LED lighting.
Even though it is just 210cc, it will sell more than other budget adventures.

Now, I hope the pricing doesn't go beyond 1.9L ex, because Karizma did not get a good start even though it was launched at an introductory price of 1.7.

[FlankerFury]

Attaching better images of the unveiled bikes.




Trellis frame, 250cc liquid cooled single cylinder engine making 30hp, USD fork, 17in wheels, one would think this is describing the KTM Duke 250.


All of these bikes look great, Hero put in a lot of efforts
Although I wish there was some clarity on the Xoom 160, I like maxi scooters.

[b16h22]

Originally Posted by Rudraksh

The Xpulse 210 is a great upgrade, with a TFT dash, Modes, and all LED lighting.
Even though it is just 210cc, it will sell more than other budget adventures.

Now, I hope the pricing doesn't go beyond 1.9L ex, because Karizma did not get a good start even though it was launched at an introductory price of 1.7.

Rishaad from Autocar said they were going to sell the 4v alongside the 210. So the pricing will be at a slight premium. I see linkage type rear shocks, different frame and stuff. It looks like they designed it as a light ADV and the weight reflects that at 170kg. So the lighter & cheaper sub 160kg 4V still has a market.

[Rudraksh]

Originally Posted by b16h22

Rishaad from Autocar said they were going to sell the 4v alongside the 210.
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So the lighter & cheaper sub 160kg 4V still has a market.

Yeah, Xpulse 200 4V still holds the title of affordable, lighter adventure in the market.

Been using 4V for 2.5 years, and not many issues found except the fuel pump jerking in the 1st & 2nd gear. Apart from that, it is doing better than what other bikes can't.

PS: This is my first QUOTE reply on this forum. (not sure if I'm doing it right!)

Mod Note: The quote did not come through. This announcement shows how to correctly use the quote & multi-quote functionality.

[nasirkaka]

At 170 kgs, they might as well have used the 250cc engine. That would have balanced the power to weight ratio. Or with 210cc, they could have tried to keep the weight in check. One of the main USP of bikes such as impulse / xpulse has been the light weight factor. 170kg plus pushes it into the brackets of 310GS, KTM advs, etc. I would still root for some Indian manufacturer launching a road worty 140kg adv/enduro bike on the likes of KLX230. Hope Hero, TVS, Bajaj is listening.

However, weight is a relative terms and it reaims to be seen how that reflects on this motorcycle interms of handling. Whether it feels top heavy, or has low CoG. As it is, bike looks nice and extension of the current xpulse genere. They could have done with some more interesting colour options. I was hoping for RBW and TC as an option, when i saw the TFT with ROAD mode. I would love to test ride this xpulse and take a call if its juicy enough to replace my current 2V Xpulse.

Good thing is that 420 is being releaved today as concept. So in future, we can expect bigger xpluse to fight for the middle weight market share. The more the options, the merrier for us consumers.

[RD410]

So many people are saying that they should've launched Xpulse 250 instead of 210, why don't they try to understand that it's all about the cost proposition!? The current 200 4v is priced at ₹1.5 lakhs ex showroom, they would want to price this new 210 at ~ ₹1.9 lakhs. If it was a 250, then the price would go well above ₹2 lakhs and then who'd buy it? Already their XMR 210 & Maverick 440 are not at all selling despite being great bikes. The new Xpulse 210 is a thorough upgrade over the 200 4v and we should appreciate that. And with Impulse, Xpulse 4v and Xpulse 210, HMC is the only manufacturer that gave us proper, affordable sub 300c dualsports, when none of the other even thought of launching one despite having great options in their global portfolio.

[gops619]

Impressive from Hero. The Xtreme 250R looks good, impressive on paper, if priced right, would be ideal for those regular city and occasional tourer type riders. Additionally, could even force KTM to reduce its price for the Duke 250. Down the line, think the Xpulse 250 would eventually come once the new 250cc engine finds it's footing.

[nasirkaka]

So many people are saying that they should've launched Xpulse 250 instead of 210, why don't they try to understand that it's all about the cost proposition!? The current 200 4v is priced at ₹1.5 lakhs ex showroom, they would want to price this new 210 at ~ ₹1.9 lakhs. If it was a 250, then the price would go well above ₹2 lakhs and then who'd buy it?

Cost is an important factor but more so for a commuter bike where brands are competing for every rupee. Xpulse is not really targetted / marketed as a commuter bike. Its a niche bike, built for a purpose. There are not too many players in that segment and category. For Xpulse buyers, the ride experience may be more important than the cost. Also, there is some news that the current 4V xpulse will continue to sell along with the new 210, for those cost conscious.

Also, when Bajaj can sell Dominar 250 for 1.84L, I am sure Hero can do Xpulse 250 for 1.9L.

[rohitoasis]

^
I believe both the Xpulse 200 and 210 have a single downtube chassis and have an engine mounting point for the downtubes. We do not know if the 250 has engine mounting point for downtubes and we know that the 2 bikes it has been designed for have a trellis chassis.

Will it be possible to use the existing trellis chassis of the Karizma and Xtreme for Xpulse without significant changes? Again this would be the case similar to the original 390 Adv. Having shared the trellis and the swingarm from the Duke 390 is what affected the ability of KTM to give it high ground clearance and i think the same issue will exist here. The fact that Karizma chassis does not seem to have a separate sub frame might also affect its ability to provide an adequate ride height.

For the moment i think they felt the need to invigorate the Karizma name more than Xpulse. I think for them Xpulse already sells enough and there is no sudden need to make such radical changes.

[DesertLynx34]

Hero believes that the Xpulse 420 will be able to start a whole new segment.

The quote's from the above link.

Seriously Hero? Hero's the kind of guy to show up at a party when the DJ's packing his crates.

[pedrolourenco]

Originally Posted by Sensible_Speed

The problem with the 200 IMO, has always been that horrid powertrain it has.

Originally Posted by FlankerFury

210cc liquid cooled engine producing 25PS and 21Nm of torque. Also gets switchable ABS along with a 4.2in TFT and revised enduro inspired styling.

Originally Posted by Senotrius

Well, they could have given the Xpulse the 250cc treatment as well. Would have just flattened the competition that way.

Originally Posted by SoumenD

So after 5 years of teasing & rumours of getting a 250/300/400/440 heart, Xpulse finally gets the 210cc from XMR.

If Xtreme and Karizma got the 250, Xpulse too could have got that right? Why did they stop at 210 I wonder?

Originally Posted by FlankerFury

I was wondering that too, would've standardised the engine and streamlined production and supplies of spares.

Hero to unveil Xpulse 420 concept at EICMA.
Yes it's still a concept. Production version likely to be unveiled in 2026.

QUOTE]

Originally Posted by Vikram9193

170 kg kerb weight for the new 210, as per Rishaad Mody. That’s closer to the KTMs than my 4V! I bought the XPulse because weight is easy to manage, this one could’ve been a nice upgrade. Oh well.

Originally Posted by b16h22

Rishaad from Autocar said they were going to sell the 4v alongside the 210. So the pricing will be at a slight premium. I see linkage type rear shocks, different frame and stuff. It looks like they designed it as a light ADV and the weight reflects that at 170kg. So the lighter & cheaper sub 160kg 4V still has a market.

Originally Posted by nasirkaka

At 170 kgs, they might as well have used the 250cc engine. That would have balanced the power to weight ratio. Or with 210cc, they could have tried to keep the weight in check. One of the main USP of bikes such as impulse / xpulse has been the light weight factor.

Hope Hero, TVS, Bajaj is listening.

Good thing is that 420 is being releaved today as concept.

Originally Posted by RD410

So many people are saying that they should've launched Xpulse 250 instead of 210, why don't they try to understand that it's all about the cost proposition!?

So many different views. Let's look at the whole picture.

What did Hero do right:
- They launched the Impulse. India's first dirt bike. Now if you are tempted to correct me and say Bajaj launched the SX Enduro, hold on. That was a wannabe dirt bike. Just a KB 100 with cosmetic mods. They didn't even bother with a mono shock rear suspension. The BSA Falcon / Bond was the first to get it.
- They realised the Impulse had it's shortcomings and the market didn't expect it. They launched the X-Pulse to address the shortcomings of the Impulse.
- They didn't stop at that. They made upgrades like the 4V engine and rally kit.
- They gave us adjustable suspension. The next bike to have it costs close to 10 times the X-Pulse.
- The studied the feedback that the X-Pulse still had shortcomings and launched the 210.
- People complained that the X-Pulse lacked the top end for touring. The X-Pulse was never meant to be a tourer or an ADV. Sorry if someone you feel otherwise but I think the X-Pulse is a dirt bike and not an ADV. And as a dirt bike the existing engine is adequate.

What did Hero do wrong:
- They launched the Impulse when the market was not ready. However hats off to them for introducing India to trail riding.
- They messed up certain design elements of the X-Pulse compared to the Impulse. The headlamp, exhaust, rear mudguard / tail section and the graphics were hideous.
- They rectified the above in the 210 but messed up on the weight, one of the main reasons so many people love the X-Pulse.
- They could have just used the 250 engine. I don't thing there would be much of an increase in the cost. They already have the engine.

All said and done, I feel Hero has done a phenomenal job without much experience. TVS has been into Motocross for donkeys years. They had a 250 cc dirt bike many years ago and currently have a 200 cc and 300 cc bike. They also have road legal versions (with lights etc). Yet they have not launched it. They currently have a Dakar Team using Sherco engines. Sherco make some amazing dirt bikes.
Bajaj on the other hand has a major share in KTM which make some amazing dirt bikes under the KTM, Husqvarna and Gas Gas brands.Bajaj also has a tie up with Triumph which has recently launched a 250 cc dirt bike. How difficult is it for them to engineer a competitor to the X-Pulse.

As long as Bajaj and TVS are sleeping, Hero is laughing away to the bank even if their product is not perfect.

[AtheK]

I think we will get xpulse 250 next year or the year after either as an upgrade or both bikes will co-exist.