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Old 18th July 2024, 12:32   #61
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Re: Royal Enfield Himalayan-based Guerrilla 450

Thats pretty decent pricing for the base variant and 450cc motorcycle.

I still think the tank could have been a little bigger. 11 litre's seems a little less, considering the H450 has 17 litre's. Also, the tank size proportion looks small when you see the whole bike.
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Re: Royal Enfield Himalayan-based Guerrilla 450

The color schemes on this bike are the worst I've seen in recent times. Absolutely gaudy color schemes. Never seen a bike with such worst color schemes in recent times.

Apart from this sole factor, I like what RE is offering here. The bike looks gorgeous. But honestly that 160 section tyre was unnecessary.
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Old 18th July 2024, 15:59   #63
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Re: Royal Enfield Himalayan-based Guerrilla 450

Tank design is not typical RE ones and rear end resembles Yamaha MT-15. Overall bike doesn't looks proportionate and looks funky. Color schemes also not appealing, even Meteor 350 has wide range of good colors.

New RE bikes (Hunter/Super meteor/etc) suspensions are not tuned for comfort, so let's wait for Guerrilla road review.
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Old 18th July 2024, 16:07   #64
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Re: Royal Enfield Himalayan-based Guerrilla 450

Hunter 350 has been a runaway success for Royal Enfield as it is the most affordable of the stable, has relatively small and inviting dimension, the torque-heavy engine, upright and relaxed ergonomics and decently thumpy exhaust note. People have been lapping it up like hot cake from the baker.

Guerrilla 450 is some-what different. The Sherpa engine is not known for the low end torque, or the thumpy long stroke natured exhaust note. The dimensions, price, ergonomics, etc, are all different. Guerrilla 450 may do decent numbers, somewhat like what Scram 411 did or even better those numbers, but may not burn the sales chart.

I was expecting the Guerrilla 450 to be similar to what the Scram 411 was to the old Himalayan 411. So a bit dissapointed on that front. Hoping there is a Scrambler version of the Himalayan 450 in making.

Coming back, the bike is a bit odd looking and the colour schemes are adding to the issue. The design is not a typical conventional good looking one like the classic series, hunter or the interceptor/GT, and would be polarising to an extent. And with those flashy colourways, the intent may be to target the younger crowd, but they have surely missed the mark.

A lot would depend on how the bike performs as the competition is fierce in the segment with so many bikes from so many brands, catering to various requirement. Looking forward to the ride impressions.

I was in market for a mid segment motorcycle and just booked the triumph Scrambler 400X. Did not wait for the Guerrilla 450 as i was not too keen on another Enfield product. They may have come a long way, but there is lot more to do in terms of fit, finish and refinement. My 2019 Interceptor is not ageing gracefully. The engine is the best part but rest of the bike needs a lot to improve in general.

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Old 18th July 2024, 16:18   #65
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Re: Royal Enfield Himalayan-based Guerrilla 450

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RE bikes and poor tyre choices seem to go hand in hand. For years people continued buying their 650s with poor tyre options after tyre ban and now we have a 160 section for the rear. You have bikes like the ZX4RR and the new hornet 750 riding with 160 section tyres with twice the power, why this needs a 160 section is beyond me. Hell, even the 390s could do with a 140 section.
I was also wondering why this bike needs a 160 section rear tyre? It's got only 40 horses and if the 390 can do with 150 mm with slightly more power than why go for 160?

Also, all the KTM's get 150 section rear tyre (except Adventure) regardless of engine power.

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Royal Enfield Guerrilla 450 accessories list revealed



Royal Enfield recently launched the Guerrilla 450 – a roadster based on the same platform as the Himalayan 450. The bike maker has now revealed the list of accessories offered with the new bike, along with their prices.

Royal Enfield Himalayan-based Guerrilla 450-royal_enfield_guerrilla_450_accessories_list_detailed_1_2da236c0b3.jpg

The Guerrilla 450 comes with a whole host of accessories designed to protect vital components. These include a mild steel engine guard priced at Rs 3,750 and Rs 4,750, an aluminium radiator protector costing Rs 1,950 and an aluminium sump guard that costs Rs 3,450. A steel headlight protector is available for Rs 1,950, while bar-end mirror mountings cost Rs 650.

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Riders can also customize their Guerrilla 450 with different oil filler caps sporting the Royal Enfield logo and a Halycon Black instrument cowl. A tinted fly screen will set you back Rs 2,650.

Royal Enfield is offering two optional seats for the Guerrilla 450. The Urban Seat costs Rs 4,950. The second option raises the seat height by 22 mm.

The list of accessories also includes bar-end mirrors and touring mirrors. However, Royal Enfield hasn’t disclosed the prices of these parts yet.

Royal Enfield Guerrilla 450 official accessories:
  • Aluminium Sump Guard (Black/Silver) - Rs 3,450
  • Steel Headlamp Grille (Black) - Rs 1,950
  • Mild Steel Compact Engine Guard (Black) - Rs 3,750
  • Mild Steel Large Engine Guard (Black) - Rs 4,750
  • Aluminium Radiator Guard (Silver) - Rs 1,950
  • Tinted Flyscreen - Rs 2,650
  • Bar-end Mirror Mounts - Rs 650
  • Bar-End Mirrors - TBA
  • Touring Mirrors - TBA
  • Aluminium Oil Filler Cap (Black/Silver) - Rs 1,050
  • Black Bench Seat - Rs 4,950
  • Black Urban Seat - Rs 4,950
  • Halycon Black Instrument Cowl - Rs 2,750
  • Water Resistant Bike Cover (Blue/Black) - Rs 1,100

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Old 18th July 2024, 17:08   #67
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Re: Royal Enfield Himalayan-based Guerrilla 450

The 'Real' Roadster!

I would really like to see how this bike handles with those fat tyres! It's a good thing with both 17" wheels, one can put better tyres and downsize, if required.

No one shared the chassis pic without the engine! Here it is,
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The Brava Blue is definitely an eye catcher!

Happy motorcycling,
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Old 18th July 2024, 17:37   #68
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Re: Royal Enfield Himalayan-based Guerrilla 450

I am curious to understand if the suspension can be switched to that of the Himalayan. With the seat height being this low and hearing about the less suspension travel plus generally what I hear about the Hunter suspension, I am unsure of the setup. Waiting for reviews.
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Re: Royal Enfield Himalayan-based Guerrilla 450

I’m more interested in the rumoured Scram 440, with the long stroke mill. The 400cc performance engine game is anyway moving on from singles to characterful twins, with the Aprilia RS457 crowned the best sport bike and the CFMoto 450 MT, the unicorn ADV. It’s been a long wait from my RD350 to finally have bikes that are not only fast but also sound good.
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Not sure if anyone shared this one earlier but yeah here it is

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I’m more interested in the rumoured Scram 440, with the long stroke mill. The 400cc performance engine game is anyway moving on from singles to characterful twins, with the Aprilia RS457 crowned the best sport bike and the CFMoto 450 MT, the unicorn ADV. It’s been a long wait from my RD350 to finally have bikes that are not only fast but also sound good.
I beg to differ. I have also been looking for something like that. But the CF Moto 450MT is nonexistent in our country (in fact, with CF Moto looking to shut its shops, may never come here) and the NX500 is overpriced. OTOH, we have quite a few interesting 400+ CC options in our market. I can count at least 6 that have been introduced in the past year or so.
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I wish this to be a grand success. Just so that we can get cheaper 160 tires, right now it's extortion on those and above tires.
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I wish this to be a grand success. Just so that we can get cheaper 160 tires, right now it's extortion on those and above tires.
I doubt they would be capable of handling 60+hp and multicylinder power delivery.
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I’m more interested in the rumoured Scram 440, with the long stroke mill. The 400cc performance engine game is anyway moving on from singles to characterful twins, with the Aprilia RS457 crowned the best sport bike and the CFMoto 450 MT, the unicorn ADV. It’s been a long wait from my RD350 to finally have bikes that are not only fast but also sound good.
I'd agree with you about the fact that 400cc motorbikes should clearly be twin-cylinder as it doesn't make sense to have 600cc plus motorbikes due to indian traffic/weather conditions and road sense.
A middle-weight 300-500cc motorbike that has smooth twin-cylinder engine and a light/middle-weight body is going to sell like hot cakes. Unfortunately all the motorbikes we have in that niche segment right now is insanely priced (yamahas/hondas). Aprillia could be a game-changer but Unfortunately their reach won't cut it.
This all being said, Indian market is price sensitive so no local manufacturer will dare to setup a 300-400cc light-weight twin cylinder motor.
I think price factor is the primary reason and it will continue to be so.

Back on topic:
Guerrilla 450 is going to lure audience for sure but is the RE's non-sporty fanbase ready for a comparatively sportier engine mated to a heavier frame (its an odd combination) ? Perhaps those that are looking for a mix-bag of things here and there at a sensitive price point would jump into it.
But those that have the moolah and a knack for proper sporty roadster - I bet they'd go for a KTM Duke.

That Sherpa 450 is such a nice and capable engine, it makes me wonder why RE didn't experiment with a lighter frame. It feels like a lost opportunity to me .
Anyways, I don't want to get ahead of the ride reviews and bash the Guerrila for its weight. Perhaps RE did some magic and it still manages to handle well in the city.
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I beg to differ. I have also been looking for something like that. But the CF Moto 450MT is nonexistent in our country (in fact, with CF Moto looking to shut its shops, may never come here) and the NX500 is overpriced. OTOH, we have quite a few interesting 400+ CC options in our market. I can count at least 6 that have been introduced in the past year or so.
Yes, sadly, we don’t know if CFMoto will show up and at what price, but, as you probably already know, a Tuono is likely and a Tuareg possible. Plus not everyone cares equally about sound. Personally I really do. Not dissing the Bajaj bikes, but for my taste a modern 200-250 single is more charming than a 400, unless it is long stroke.
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