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Old 28th February 2024, 11:26   #301
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Re: Royal Enfield Himalayan 450 Review

The 5200 marine sealant will be better till the life of the rim. The tape will come out one day. But the added weight might need wheel balancing, which many are skipping.
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Old 28th February 2024, 11:30   #302
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Re: Royal Enfield Himalayan 450 Review

So I saw something interesting while picking up my Himalayan. The wheel weights used to balance the tyres are different not only across models but different within the same colour model. If you see the three pictures, they are the front wheel but with different wheel weight sizes.

The first golden rim has two wheel weights on either side of the spokes, the black rim has none and the last golden rim has a single wheel weight.

Anyone know about this ?
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Anyone know about this ?
This is bound to happen as each wheel is unique and hence will be out of "perfect balance". Different weights at different locations will be required.

if you find the handling way off will you need to recheck this balance.

Recommended to get the wheel balanced each time the tyre is changed.
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The first golden rim has two wheel weights on either side of the spokes, the black rim has none and the last golden rim has a single wheel weight.
Nice observation. I hope you are aware of usage of these weights, balancing entire wheel and tyre combination. Wheel and tyre manufacturers aren't same, plus these are spoke wheels than alloy wheels. So, some variance is bound to happen and these small weights are for correction. All tyres have specific colour markings to minimize balancing weights.
On a broad level, balancing weights in excess of 70-80 gms means either tyre hasn't been mounted correctly or some issue with tyre/wheel.

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So I saw something interesting while picking up my Himalayan.
Congratulations! You should posting more about this, than balancing weights.
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manaslu@2028, a little birdie tells me that Royal Enfield has improved the supply of their Kamet White Himalayan 450s. Yes, dealers are still fulfilling bookings from November but in a few weeks time, they should have cleared out the backlog. I found 4 Kamet White bikes waiting for delivery at a dealership. So, your wait should not continue for much longer.
Just checked with my dealer about Kamet white booking status(dec16). They says Kamet white booking from Nov 16 is still pending. Looks like initial delivery estimate of 4 months will be applicable for my case. Feels crazy to wait for 4 months.
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Re: Royal Enfield Himalayan 450 Review

Even if you take off a tyre and put it back on the same rim, without having matched up with a marking the tyre to the rim, it need to be re-balanced.

Anything up to 25-30 grams is perfectly normal.

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Thanks, I had kept a tab on them, just didn't know that they were actually doing it too. Will check them out.

Any particular reason why you didn't go ahead with the conversion at that time?
The best way is to contact way2speed and ask them for their recommended installation points in Pune.

The Interceptor had a lot of variables at that time, with no tubeless tyres available except the affordable Ralco Speed-Blasters or the high-priced Pirellis. My stock Phantom Sportscomp (tubeless) set was wearing out, and the rear tyre had one puncture repaired, so I didn't want to try the tubeless conversion on any of the pairs! Hence I decided to wait for OEM alloys and with it came the Centuro ST tubeless tyres.

The best part about the Himalayan is that it comes with tubeless Ceat tyres! Unfortunately, we used up the stock Pirellis before the alloys came out. I know one rider who could preserve his Pirellis to fit on the alloys. He rides less.

Conversely, Himalayan tubeless rims might cost 25 to 30k INR for the set, which is what we spent on alloys and tubeless tyres combined!

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Re: Royal Enfield Himalayan 450 Review

One of the big issues, for me, has been the wind blast on long rides. The windscreen on Himalayan 450 does not protect from windblasts in any manner even after a windscreen extender is installed and the wind-blast & wind-drone noise comes directly at the eyes & forehead level of the helmet.

Saw the "adventure windscreen" from RE but found that also to be a bit sub-optimal for my needs. Carbon racing windscreen claims to have better width & length for their windscreen and hence better wind protection.

Have got this installed and will be checking in the coming days on how it performs. Here are some pictures.

This is how the windscreen comes -- I opted for the smoked version (thought being that it would look good with the Hanle Black color)
Royal Enfield Himalayan 450 Review-carbonracing1.jpeg

This is how it looks after installation. Simple enough job!
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A comparison with stock windscreen
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Width-wise comparison with stock windscreen
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Carbon racing windscreen with the prospect extender.
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Hopefully, this should cut out the wind-drone issue I have with the stock + extender setup
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Re: Royal Enfield Himalayan 450 Review

Suits the bike, very usefull if travelling long distances at speed. Personally, I don't get along with screens. I fixate on the scratches, dirt and dead insects. I find the whole thing very visually distracting. My current bike, a XT600e Yamaha, has a small wind deflector built into the headlamp shroud. It reduces some of the wind buffering at speed and is not in my line of sight.
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Re: Royal Enfield Himalayan 450 Review

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The 5200 marine sealant will be better till the life of the rim. The tape will come out one day. But the added weight might need wheel balancing, which many are skipping.
5200 Marine silicone goes to H452 & the 4411 tape goes to the Ducati as Himalayan will see more off road & remote places vis a vis the Ducati.
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Carbon racing windscreen claims to have better width & length for their windscreen and hence better wind protection.
This is how it looks after installation
Sir, can you please share a cockpit view?
How is the visibility both while sitting and saddling?
Especially that it's smoked black, hope it doesn't hamper the night time visibility.

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Have got this installed and will be checking in the coming days on how it performs.
Would love to read the detailed review. Waiting eagerly.
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Re: Royal Enfield Himalayan 450 Review

I had this design on the CB 350, and requested CR to make a transparent model. They are still sticking to this design so I bought the OEM raised
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Especially that it's smoked black, hope it doesn't hamper the night time visibility.
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I had this design on the CB 350, and requested CR to make a transparent model. They are still sticking to this design so I bought the OEM raised
And how does that perform Sir?
Request kindly elaborate on two aspects :-
1. View while seating, if any obstruction especially at night.
2. Effect on wind buffetting/ protection at various speed ranges.
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Re: Royal Enfield Himalayan 450 Review

It works fine, just that I dont like the clouded plastic at the bottom. Mind you, mine is on the CB and there is no problem with buffeting. Its quite strong. Other aspects I cant answer without experiencing it on the H450
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And how does that perform Sir? Request kindly elaborate on two aspects :-1. View while seating, if any obstruction especially at night. 2. Effect on wind buffetting/ protection at various speed ranges.
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Sir, can you please share a cockpit view?
How is the visibility both while sitting and saddling?
Especially that it's smoked black, hope it doesn't hamper the night time visibility.
Here you go. Since it is smoked, it will have "reduced visibility" when seeing through it.

This is daytime. At night for sure this will be even more reduced visibility
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A view from my normal seating position.
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Observations after an approx 100km ride
  • No visible vibration of the windscreen at 3-digit speeds
  • Without the pro-spec extender, the wind now comes directly at the start of the forehead, and with the extender, it is almost over the helmet, and a significant reduction in the wind buffeting issue.
  • The increased width also helps as I checked and the wind draft crosses almost by the side of the helmet in the normal riding position and only very minimal wind on the side of the helmet
  • With the pro-spec extender, there is a slight vibration at the top of the windscreen (the pro-spec extender part), when changing gears up and accelerating. Not at regular cruise speeds. That is something I can live with as a trade-off vs wind buffeting on the face.

I have also been using the "InScape" extended windscreen with the pro-spec extender on the Himalayan 411 and know how it helps and also the vibration issues at the top of the windscreen.

The windscreen (and the resulting wind buffeting) is also a personal preference -- the height of the rider, seating/riding position, night riding vs day riding, helmet design/shape etc, etc. So will never be a one-size-fits-all.

Hope this helps!
PS: Carbon Racing also has a "clear" version of this windscreen. I had that in mind to order but then ordered the smoked one purely for "looks" :-)
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