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Old 31st December 2023, 18:06   #31
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Re: Your controversial bike opinion

1. Wearing half face helmets is like bringing a sword to a gunfight.

2. Karizma R and Ninja 300 are still lookers. I sold my Karizma in 2012 but the other owner has still maintained it well and whenever I visit my hometown, call it luck, I always come across the bike and it still demands a second look.

3. Yamaha R15 is overhyped for what it offers. I have owned both V2 and V3 just for the looks.

4. The RC 390 looks ugly to my eyes.

5. Group rides sound and feel boring, people with different thought process, skill set, bike capacity meet and ride at completely different speeds which in itself is dangerous. Biking now a days is more about vlogging than riding.
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Old 31st December 2023, 21:08   #32
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Re: Your controversial bike opinion

1)Two wheelers shouldn't be allowed on highways.
2)Higher tax for 2 wheeler with more than 200CC capacity.
3) Heavy fine for missing side mirror.
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Old 31st December 2023, 21:17   #33
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Re: Your controversial bike opinion

Here is a set of unpopular/controversial opinions:
1. Super bikes are not meant for Indian roads but people buy them anyway regardless of suspension compatibility, spares availability, poor craftmanship(they shouldn't breakdown as often) & serviceability.

2. 20-30 PS of power is all one needs for living day to day in india & even that is an overkill.

3. Weight & riding posture are underrated & looks & specs are overrated.

4. Rides with friends in car is >>> ride with friends on a bike.
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Old 1st January 2024, 00:22   #34
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Re: Your controversial bike opinion

After posting on the similar Thread related to Cars, giving my opinion related to Bikes as well:
Fun to Drive element can be experienced by driving 100cc bike as well.
Scooter sales are powered by people like me who now want that comfort of automatic 2 wheeler with storage space. Other reasons are to support the Purchase decision.
In road driving conditions, a Bike has same turning radius as that of a Car.

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Old 1st January 2024, 00:32   #35
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My Rant on the RE 650 Interceptor.

1. Which idiot did the test riding of the bike at RE. Did you not at one point think, holy freaking this thing is uncomfortable.

2. RE engineers get a girlfriend please. And take the test bikes when on a date. Atleast she will knock some sense into you when she is riding pillion. And tell you how apallingly unconfortable those seats are.

3. What on Earth are you doing building a top heavy bike. Are you trying to complete with the Pulsar 180 from 2005. Kawasaki 1000 cc adv bikes feel lighter than this.

4. Adjustable Rear shocks. Agree with Saikishor here. Who on earth is asking for it?

5. Foot Pegs: Seriously, its just wrong.
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Old 1st January 2024, 00:37   #36
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1. The commuter bike segment (specifically 125cc and below) should be banned/properly upgraded because I don't consider them to be road-safe enough.

2. Digital TFT Dash > Analogue Dash

3. Modern minimal LEDs > Big shapey halogens

4. I don't get why people hate on electrics. Forget if they're actually good for the environment or not, they're quicker, more efficient and IMO sound pretty cool too.

5. Aftermarket exhaust on a single cylinder is a big no!
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Old 1st January 2024, 01:22   #37
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1. Road taxes should be based on the space / real estate a particular vehicle occupies, combined with other relevant factors such as weight, engine capacity etc. which are directly proportional to the damage it causes to the roads. Road tax is not an indirect tax to levy it on the invoice value.

2. Again on road tax, even if it is on the invoice price, it should be on the base variant price of a given engine specification. Why should I pay more road tax on the ventilated seats and superior music system, if it is factory fitted? Whereas same modification done aftermarket has no road tax! Strange.

3. Any accidental death due to the fault of the person driving in an one way, or after intoxication should be codified under the IPC (now the new Nyaya Sanhita, yet to be notified) as a 'murder' despite there being no intention etc. Just deem it, anyways deeming is not hostile for the legislation. Likewise injury caused should be an attempt to murder.

4. Make honking expensive, really expensive. Just like emission test, there should be a fool proof test to detect no. of times one has honked.

5. Off-roading in a protected area or reserved forest is pure evil. With the rapid urbanization and deforestation in this country of 140 cr population, be considerate to the other living beings as well. Imagination an elephant or a tiger coming at your backyard everyday and roaring!

6. Normalise confrontation with traffic offenders. We can't expect already understaffed police to catch hold of everyone violating the rules. When the society has an itch to tell a women on how she should dress in public, surely we can tell grown up adults as to how to drive on public roads.

7. Don't let any vehicles with any shortcomings in the documentation such as expired insurance, emission etc. pass toll booths.
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Old 1st January 2024, 02:02   #38
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1).Japanese premium bikes are losing appeal, refinement and reliability are not the only factors people look for now,German’s and Europeans are going to come forward.

2).Kawasaki has one of the worst service centre experience in the super bike world and the spare parts are exorbitantly priced when compared with the likes of Suzuki and Honda.

3).Honda Bigwing strategy although sounded promising in the beginning where their premium bikes could have gotten the TLC they deserve unlike the case with the CBR 250r where the service centres were flooded with Activa, Shine and the likes now the Bigwing dealerships are mostly crowded with H’ness 350 and to make matters worse although there is a Bigwing in most major cities the ones that cater to 650 cc plus are far and few in between.

4).Harley Davidson service was pathetic which is why some people moved out of the brand but happily buy it when outside India.Their entry level bikes (read:Street 750) have always been riddled with issues, now combined with Hero they roll out a Chinese Harley lookalike that is better suited to be called a Hero than Harley they hope to do good volumes with it , the already pathetic and crowded service centres of Hero will only damage the Harley brand here further resulting in lots of frustrated customers, they should have quit India for good and left like Chevy did in the true American way, their bikes especially the premium ones although good are not meant for our roads nor our climate.

5).Royal Enfield is becoming too soft and refined now thanks to emission norms, once a hardcore fan i lost interest in them with their current product portfolio, the rugged, easy to work, noisy characterful bikes was what i loved but then can’t blame them.They should really stop milking the Bullet name feels like they are just chugging it along for the sake of the ‘longest running production motorcycle’ tag but it is too long in the tooth now, ideally production should have been stopped when they introduced Electric start on the Bullet because its just an Electra after that, when the UCE era ended it should have been the last nail in the coffin for the legend but then they are still dragging it along with only the golden stripes on the tank reminiscing the OG.Also they should bring the 500 cc single cylinder back rather than creating more products with the affordable twin 650 just so they could capture export markets.

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Old 1st January 2024, 02:58   #39
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Yulus should be banned.

Why?
1. They don’t have rear view mirrors. The riders almost never wear helmets. I don’t think they need licenses to be ridden either.

2. They are faster than cycles but slower than other vehicles, which somehow puts them in a very dangerous zone. Especially since they take the liberty of going wherever and however they want. In the fast lane, next to the median, on the footpath, splitting lanes, going the wrong way, going the wrong way near the median - literally nothing is off limits for them apparently.

3. They are constantly cutting you off especially at U-turn areas and in slow moving traffic.

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Old 1st January 2024, 11:25   #40
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Re: Your controversial bike opinion

• Installing big top boxes, panniers, saddle bags, tank bags, carrying too much luggage etc. on a motorcycle upsets it's center of gravity & weight distribution, thus badly affecting it's stability and dynamic capabilities. You cannot enjoy the motorcycle if you are carrying lots of luggage. If you want to tour on a motorcycle, carry minimum luggage, just a backpack if possible. If there's too much luggage, then tour on a car.

• Hero motocorp is an underrated brand. Right now, their product portfolio has the most variety. These guys came up with proper, honest products like Xpulse, Xpulse Rally, Karizma XMR & HD X440. Even more interesting products viz. Xoom 160, Xpulse 210, Xtreme 210, Xpulse 440 and Xpulse 400 are on their way. Which other brand has commuters, scooters, ADV, sports bike and a cruiser under the same roof?

• Honda is the lamest 2 wheeler manufacturer of this year. All they did this year were some makeovers. Grazia was relaunched as Dio 125, X-Blade as SP160 and Highness as CB350 BABT. They stooped so low as to blatantly copy RE Classic's design aesthetics.

• Bajaj and TVS have surpassed Honda & other Japs in engine smoothness and refinement. Pulsar F/N 250, N160, N150, Apache RTR200 4v and Apache RTR160 4v are extremely refined and smooth.

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Old 1st January 2024, 13:30   #41
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  • Folks should work on their core fitness instead of raising handlebars; I started riding on a R15 at 36 and rode it to Spiti from Bangalore
  • Reiterating a previously made point, a motorcycle is not a car. Don't dump 5 bags and 4 jerrycans on it, for chrissake, fuel is now available in places where potable water may not be
  • Start with a sub 200cc bike, try mastering it before trading up. Most of us cannot milk a small motorcycle for all that it can do. More cc cannot compensate for lack of skill. Most of us will never outgrow a small single cylinder
  • Its ok to honk when on a bike and approaching a large vehicle from behind at speed, especially on highways. Make your presence felt; the driver of the truck can barely catch you in his rear view. Honk and flash the high beam once, be patient. Pass once it is safe to do so. If more of us bikers do this, the roads will be a safer place
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Old 1st January 2024, 13:47   #42
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1) Suzuki Hayabusa is an ugly looking bike. There, I said it!

2) Suzuki Intruder 150 is the ugliest bike on Indian roads right now!

3) Indian motovlogging cannot get more cringe. Helped enormously by the new expressways created in the most populous northern state.
They seem to just serve as a racetrack for these youtubers. In their defense, they do have a disclaimer saying all stunts/races performed by 'professionals', please do not try at home

4) This one may ruffle a lot of feathers-
team bhp classifieds (bikes and cars both) are grossly overpriced. One would expect people to be sensible and well informed here, but no, everything is priced with a 20-30% premium.

Is forum membership a guarantee that there can't be a better bike/car with the same age/mileage?

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Old 1st January 2024, 14:18   #43
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1. Bikes and scooters below 500cc to be capped at 40 kmph within city. Slow acceleration capability within city . Bikes below 500cc Banned from highways.

2. Rigorous training and certification for any bike rider to be made mandatory.

3. Bikes above 501 cc to be made available to public only after point 2 is met by the rider.

4. Royal enfield is overhyped.. including the ones which mark their territory everywhere.

5. Minimum riding age to be 21. Punishable by jail time if rule broken.

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Old 1st January 2024, 15:00   #44
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1. Touring on motorcycles is an absolute waste of time and is no fun at all (before you ask I just did 300+ km since dawn today ) it’s boring, tedious and above all risky given our road conditions. Get a car.

2. 20-30 bhp is all you need, anything beyond 40-50 is just..well not optimal

3. Fanboying for/ Hating a certain brand if you’re not being paid for it is a waste of energy.
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Old 1st January 2024, 15:52   #45
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1. There must be some rule where the weight of the rider must be more than or equal to 50% of the bike they ride.

2. RE must not sell its bikes to folks who are 40 kg in weight, ride the thumpers like an RX 100 and then ask for help while lifting the bike which falls at times.

3. Suzuki must relaunch the Inazuma 250. It is an underrated bike. The bike itself being imported but all its spare parts being manufactured locally, can be the difference.
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