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26th May 2024, 20:12 | #31 |
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| Re: My Carnival Red Triumph Scrambler 400X | Ownership Review Update: Accessories, DIY Customizations and pre monsoon ride.It has been 2 months since the last update. March and first half April the bike did not see much running owing to a personal injury. Also due to heatwave at the time, I did not venture onto any rides. However I have not been idle during this time, looking at potential modifications/DIY stuff for the Bike. Here are the updates till date.
DIY mods – Brakes, Mirrors, Adjustable Levers, Grips & Easy clutchBrakes The organic brake pads were not to my liking. They do the job in city rides but for our highways it felt underwhelming and I had a couple close calls with livestock during one of the rides. So decided to get the Speed 400 sintered pads. However the service center had no stock at the time, and no tentative date as well. I think they were not willing to sell the brake pads over the counter imo and just made up some reason. After this some time passed and saw a couple of videos on YT on Galfar offering sintered brake pads for the 400X. Price were a bit cheaper than the Brembo brake pads being offered for the speed 400 hence I said “why not?” Confirmed the actual brake pads and part numbers from the seller baycitypowerparts and placed an order. Part numbers for anyone wanting to check them out.
Total cost - 5998 Since I was still nursing an injury could not swap the pads myself, took it to a local mechanic and did the swap. Takes a few kms to bed in properly but the braking is spot on and perfect for shedding speed quickly. No unnecessary lockups so far with either the front or rear. What stands out for me is on the open roads this feels way better than the stick pads in everyway. Much more confidence inspiring to carry more speed when needed without needing to worry much on the stopping prowess of the bike. Money well spent. Closer look at the stock brake pads, the one on the left was from the front at 3k+ kms only. Almost half worn. Mirrors I've been experiencing issues with the stock mirrors on the bike and had been looking for some advice on replacements. The current mirrors are not meeting my needs for a few reasons:
Took a look at two of them KTM Adv 390 mirrors and the Dominar 400 mirrors. Unfortunately KTM refused to sell theirs over the counter, could not find any reliable source online to procure them as well. Dominar 400 mirrors were easily available, local service center did not have all the parts readily available and said it would take about a week to procure them. When I say parts there is a difference in size between the mirror holders. The Triumph ones being M10x1.25 and for the Dominar it is M8x1.25. So the mirror holder would need to be swapped on the right and on the left hand side it was the mirror holder along with the clutch yoke. Since I had the part numbers from the service center I searched for them online and got an order going on 99RPM, which seem to be a genuine source for procuring bajaj spares for all vehicles. Order was delivered in a couple of days and quick DIY on the right hand side to fit the mirrors, which was the easiest part. However when I moved to the left hand side, I had to remove the grips, light switch assembly, clutch yoke and then slide in the new mirror holder. Which was easier said than done. I made a mistake while removing the gripper and damaged it irreversibly, for those wanting to try I would suggest 2 flathead screw drivers and a heat gun. Me being a moron used a sharp blade to cut through the glue. Could have just procured a replacement grip but I thought better of it and got the barkbuster grips from bigbadbikes during their sale along with a few other gear. These are pricey but are proper rubber with none of that plasticky feeling, this inturn had a positive effect in managing vibes from the handlebar imo. Anyways with a goof up, I gained something else in return. Learn from your mistakes. Since I was not riding the bike, there was no issue in waiting to procure additional parts, so while i was waiting for the grips removed the switch assembly and the clutch yoke to replace it with the ones procured which had no issue with fitment either with the Triumph levers or even the adjustable KTM levers. Once that was done slid the switch assembly back in and then got the barkbuster grips, used some cpvc glue to keep em in place. Again no issues installing them. They are about 2-4 mm smaller than the stock grips on the left hand side. Job well done. Had to get on a few rides to office and the highways to get the proper alignment. The mirrors are great, very stable, can’t fiddle with them easily. They offer a wider vision, useful especially when filtering through traffic or for overtakes on highways. Vibes are better contained. And it does not look out of place to me. Part numbers if anybody is interested.
I like that it doesn't ruin the looks of the bike, not sure if KTM mirrors would have had the same impression. Super soft grips Adjustable Levers With the grip puppies installed already my finger reach was kinda hampered slightly, the lever adjustment is a luxury that i prefer to have. Got some KTM adjustable levers for brake and clutch. This is an easy DIY. After the failed attempt at procuring the KTM Adv mirrors I had one of my friends pick these up during his routine service as spares from a KTM service center. Again this is a direct fit and no issues at all till date. I did not note down the part numbers for this one but I think its available to buy online as well so should be easy to procure. Finally the Pro Spec Easy clutch I had the prototype for a few days and received word from them earlier this month that the cables have arrived. Went in for the installation, tried a couple of different routing options. The OEM clutch cable routing was good but the easy clutch unit which sits at the engine fins on the left hand side would graze it everytime I turned right. So we routed it outside in a small gap between where the engine guards bolt on to the frame which seemed perfect. The OEM cable guide was too thin for the new cable hence we used a zip tie to keep it in place. Also not sure if this was just me, but the OEM cable was damaged due to the cable guide being too tight and the cable sleeve kinda ripped off. The service center loosened the guide a bit to allow some play and rolled over a bit of electrical tape around the cable where the sleeve was damaged stating it was not much damage even after me giving them the go ahead to replace it since it barely costs anything. I was aware that i would get another cable anyhow for the easy clutch so it was just a stop gap for me and i did not make a fuss about it. Pre Monsoon Ride – Shettihalli, Hemavati backwatersSince I was out of action for almost 2 months, I was itching to go on a ride. Pre monsoon showers had begun about couple of weeks ago and the temperatures finally dropped. Meanwhile I had procured some gear from Europe while my brother was travelling. Was looking forward to testing them as well. Route taken onwards: Bengaluru – Nelamangala – Yediyur- Channarayapatna – Devihalli - Hosahalli – Kabbatti – Madihalli – Shettihalli church https://maps.app.goo.gl/tHJDuWPPJLKeW1Si8 A snap of the deviation taken from the highway, highly recommend it. The weather was just perfect, left home at 5.45AM. It had been raining the last night and by sunrise it was all cloudy and not a ray of direct sunlight which made it perfect riding conditions. Tarmac was not too wet. Riding on the highway until yadiyur was pleasant, but boring. Took a deviation just before shantigrama, I was a little skeptical to take the B roads post the rains. But it was well worth it. These are single lane and sometimes half a lane. Early morning village is the best, people out and about lot of livestock and the roads were a mixed bag. It was great for a few kms, the non existent for a few and then half broken for a few more. The Scramblers suspension came into play here, never been more comfortable on the ride. Since it was a unconventional route, there were no other riders for company, I was all by myself and at my own pace just having a fun and relaxed morning. At the halfway mark there is a very small offroad trail leading to an even smaller temple at the top. It was closed but B road explorations sometimes lead you to unknown places. For those interested I’ve marked the route taken. At the destination things were a bit busy couple of cars parked already and another group of BMW riders were just wrapping up. Fast forward 15 mins and I was all alone, spent some time at the church and then moved along to some trails around the area, the bridge for the view and the gorur dam. Spent the better part of the morning there. Started the journey back home at 11:30 AM. Stopped at Swati delicacy for lunch, the ride was fun in the morning so did not stop for breakfast. Was back at the Gorguntepalya People tree hosp signal by 2:30, however there was a massive jam and was stuck there for almost 25 mins. Well something had to give on a perfect day I guess. I was home in another 15 mins and it was a day well spent and ready for a longer ride next month. Some parting shots ODO: 4900 Mileage on the ride: 28 Kmpl |
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27th May 2024, 07:59 | #32 |
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Infractions: 0/1 (5) | Re: My Carnival Red Triumph Scrambler 400X | Ownership Review Are the adjustable KTM levers a direct swap for the OEM Speed 400/400X ones? And did you consider using the Avenger mirrors, black, for these? I thought mirror stem (stalk) size is standard across most bikes. Have seen it been used as replacement for the stock ADV390 mirror for example without need for this effort. I've been planning for a 400X handlebar swap for my S400. The handlebar position of 400X is perfect wrt relaxed riding for me. Last edited by Axe77 : 28th May 2024 at 19:51. Reason: Spacing. |
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| Re: My Carnival Red Triumph Scrambler 400X | Ownership Review Quote:
Yes I did consider the Avenger mirrors, however I thought the boxy rectangular shape would not have been a good look on the bike. | |
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27th May 2024, 09:17 | #34 |
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Infractions: 0/1 (5) | Re: My Carnival Red Triumph Scrambler 400X | Ownership Review
Oh good. So they should fit easily with a swap at the ASC. How much was the levers each? 1.3k MRP in total? It's an old figure I remember. |
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27th May 2024, 10:06 | #35 |
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| Re: My Carnival Red Triumph Scrambler 400X | Ownership Review
2k I think for both the levers. No need to go the ASC, you can do it yourself. Also not sure if the Triumph ASC would entertain such requests, atleast here in Bangalore I know they do not. Last edited by Axe77 : 28th May 2024 at 19:50. Reason: Caps. |
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10th June 2024, 22:01 | #36 |
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| Re: My Carnival Red Triumph Scrambler 400X | Ownership Review Quick Update:The bike has crossed 5400 kms as of today and close to 6 months now.Couple of maintenance activities were taken care of. Before that Triumph service center is running a monsoon camp, they do basic checks all round.
Visited the service center on Saturday 8th of June, got everything checked, bike health is optimal no issues or top up required. Air Filter was very filthy at just 5000kms, hence asked them to replace it anyways. Air filter cost - 286 Total cost -1300 I had already ordered the BMC air filter and was yet to receive it, hence took the vehicle to the monsoon camp, otherwise i would have given it a miss. Couple of things i performed this week.
Parts procured for Engine oil change -Oil Filter -O Ring -Mesh strainer x 2 All of the above parts were procured from 99rpm for the bajaj Dominar 400. Parts were a direct fit. Engine oil used this time Drain Bolts to be loosened Mesh Strainer comparison, forgot to take a pic of the smaller strainer Oil Filter Housing Oil Filter Comparison - Exact match Air Filter Comparison - I fell the BMC one fits more snugly than stock. No gaps anywhere. Will have to observe how the vehicle behaves carefully for the next few days, hoping i did not goof up anywhere. Pretty happy with how easy the entire procedure was. Next update will be after a longer trip which is planned for later this month. |
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| Re: My Carnival Red Triumph Scrambler 400X | Ownership Review Parts procured for Engine oil change -Oil Filter -O Ring -Mesh strainer x 2 All of the above parts were procured from 99rpm for the bajaj Dominar 400. Parts were a direct fit. It would be great If you shared part numbers for mesh strainer and O ring . By the way I am thinking to upgrade to 15T front sprocket from Dominar/ Duke 390 to increase gear ratio . Have seen this mod done in American buyer. Fingers crossed... Last edited by KarthikK : 17th June 2024 at 17:40. |
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| Re: My Carnival Red Triumph Scrambler 400X | Ownership Review Update: 2nd Service, warranty claims, more modifications, type change and brake wear.It’s been quite a while since the last update. The 400X has been chugging along quite well and would complete 1 year in December. ODO was standing at 9700 kms, one fine weekend things fell in place and me and a couple of my friends planned for a weekend ride to Madikeri. Which pushed the ODO over 10k kms. The bike went through few changes that were done during this period.
Tyre Swap: Starting off with the tyre swap. The MRF’s were not to my liking, especially in the wets. Looked around for some expensive options like the Pirelli scorpion’s, but finally settled on the Reise TourR’s. At the time they were offering a 5% discount and a customization on your tyres. They would emboss 7 letter words, numbers or alphanumeric sequence of our choice. The front tyre size was not an issue as Reise were offering the stock size 100/90 R19. However, for the rear I’ve downsized from 140/80 to 130/80. After riding for about 5000 kms, I quite like the tyre in all weather conditions and also fares really well on trail rides. Not to mention it has fared quite well this past monsoon in the slushy Bengaluru roads. For touring as well there have been no issues, good roads/bad roads all of them. There are no untoward vibrations etc. due to the knobby nature of the tyres. Total cost: 6727 Not too bad, but makes it unique. Got the balancing done at Madhu's as well. Amount of dirt stuck underneath is insane. Got to deep clean it one of these days Front Sprocket Change: Now this was something I wanted to try, the bike kind of felt harsh at higher speeds during longer journeys. After reviewing the swap by a couple of youtubers from the UK I wanted to try it for myself. Had a hard time initially to get a 15T sprocket from the KTM service center, ofcourse I did ask at the triumph service center but they were not selling OTC. In the end spoke to a member in our riding group with a dominar 400 and got the 15T sprocket from Bajaj. The swap is quite tricky and you will need some assistance. Not going into the details, safe to say got this in a couple of days at home with the help of a neighbor. 2 days because I had the wrong size wrench. If you need detailed instructions I would recommend this video. So, after the change, the city riding has been much more relaxed. The gear changes have definitely decreased. 3rd gear is much more rider friendly now at city speeds and the 1st gear is actually useable. However, you will miss the initial torque that the bike had with the 14T. There is no other way to sugar coat it. You have to make peace with what you want. Some folks would be okay with this and others won’t. The city riding apart, the real difference is at cruising speeds, whatever speeds you were doing at what ever RPM’s it will reduce by about 400-500 RPM. This is where it felt like the 90-100 is much smoother now with no vibrations at all. Past a 100 we all know the vibes on the footpegs get pretty wild. P.S: The speeds mentioned are from the GPS and not the speedometer which has an 8%-10% error. I did a 1000 km tour post the sprocket change and I was very happy, this kind of relaxed riding suits me and I am all for it and we don’t lose any overtaking ability either. Part number for the sprocket: JY551029 (Rs. 270) Handlebar risers: Another mod that I’ve done is to add the carbon racing pullback offset risers. This helps me tremendously when trail riding. It’s a pretty easy DIY, and I did not have to fiddle with cable mgmt. For anyone interested: https://carbonracing.in/collections/...scrambler-400x Cost: 2199 Warranty Claim: As with anything in life things just break from time to time, while performing the sprocket change I saw that the rear mono shock had some oil stain on it. Initially I thought it was all the gunk that the tyre throws up. However after a clean wash, I saw the same thing and confirmed it with my riding buddy as well. Rear shocks had gone for a toss, the ride felt very bouncy which confirmed our suspicions. Not sure how it happened or why. Called up the Triumph service center for an appointment. Went in, showed the issue. It was confirmed by the technician later to be a dust seal issue that had some damage. SA informed me that warranty claim would be done, asked for 24 hours to get it done. Received a call the next day for pickup. SA apologized for the delay as the approvals usually happen same day and my case took longer than expected which was 24 hours. That’s just good customer experience for me, could not be happier. The unit was fit and set to the stock pre load position no changes done; I like it this way as well. The oily muck clearly visible Post replacement 2nd Service: With my recent weekend ride to Madikeri, the ODO crossed 10k kms mark. 2nd service was due on Dec 13th; however, I got it done on the 9th. The usual changes
Issues I had reported
Also, another cool thing is that they share the video of the new oil being poured into the vehicle. They always do this; I forgot to get my video from the first service. Total cost for the second service. All in all, the first year of ownership has been stellar and I am glad to be back riding after so long. The service experience has been nothing but stellar for me throughout the first year of ownership. I must have visited the service center about 6 times, 2 for service, 1 monsoon camp and the rest for accessories. I’ve had small complaints some times with the wash not being done properly but apart from that any other issues have been dealt with swiftly by the Kanakpura service center. Until the next update, ride safe. ODO : 10321 Average mileage Tours - 29-31.5 kmpl Average mileage in city - 20 -22 kmpl |
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