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Old 23rd March 2022, 11:34   #1
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New Honda Scrambler 500cc patent leaks | Royal Enfield rival

Honda CL250 and CL500 will be based on underpinnings and powertrains of their cruiser siblings- Rebel 250 and Rebel 500


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In the past few years, popularity of scramblers, especially in the entry-level space has shot up very high. Hence, many bikemakers are planning to utilise their existing mid-displacement motorcycle platforms to develop new scramblers. It was recently revealed that Honda will be adding two new scrambler motorcycles to its lineup.

Previous reports mentioned that the upcoming scramblers will be available in 250cc and 500cc guise, both based on the brand’s entry-level cruiser offerings Rebel 250 and Rebel 500 respectively. This will help Honda reduce development and production cost of its new scramblers.

New Honda Scrambler 500cc Patent Leaks
In a recent development, patent drawings for the upcoming 500cc scrambler from Honda have been leaked on a Japanese website. These patents date back to March 2018 and show a scrambler-like motorcycle based on Rebel 500’s engine and body. Based on this patent, a render has been created which imagines CL500 Scrambler in its full production form. From the leaked patent drawings it is clear that CL500’s frame would share a resemblance with its cruiser sibling Rebels, although there are some differences towards the rear section of the chassis. The digital illustration borrows styling inspirations from Honda’s C series bikes launched between 1960s and 90s, especially Dream CL72 Scrambler.

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It also looks a tad similar to the India-spec CB350 RS which is essentially a pseudo scrambler. Highlights from this rendered design includes a relatively straight and flat saddle with a minimalistic profile, a high-mounted horizontal exhaust muffler, black fork gaiters and larger alloy wheels. In addition, the illustration takes inspiration from the leaked parents and gets a squarish fuel tank.

CL500, C250- Powertrain Specs
Powering CL500 will be the same 471cc parallel-twin DOHC 4-valve engine that propels Rebel 500. In the cruiser, this motor dishes out 46 PS of power at 8,500rpm and 43 Nm at 6,500rpm. This unit will be paired with a 6-speed constant mesh gearbox. Other than chassis and engine, CL500 Scrambler is also likely to borrow the suspension setup of Rebel 500 which comprises telescopic forks upfront and dual shock absorbers at rear.

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The less powerful CL250 Scrambler will be based on its equivalent quarter-litre cruiser. Powering the scrambler is a 249cc DOHC, 4-valve, single-cylinder motor that pumps out 26 PS of max power at 9,500rpm and 22 Nm of peak torque at 7,750rpm. This unit will also be mated to the same 6-speed constant mesh gearbox. Some overseas media reports have confirmed that CL250 could get an official debut toward the end of this year with CL500 to follow sometime in 2023. Both bikes are, however, unlikely to be launched in India anytime soon.

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Old 23rd March 2022, 20:10   #2
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re: New Honda Scrambler 500cc patent leaks | Royal Enfield rival

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These patents date back to March 2018 and show a scrambler-like motorcycle based on Rebel 500’s engine and body. Based on this patent, a render has been created which imagines CL500 Scrambler in its full production form.

Some overseas media reports have confirmed that CL250 could get an official debut toward the end of this year with CL500 to follow sometime in 2023. Both bikes are, however, unlikely to be launched in India anytime soon.

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If these patents are dated back to 2018 I dont think they will come in its current form, because if they did we would have already seen them in the streets by now. While its true that Honda doesn't have a Scrambler in their lineup (Honda CT125 Hunter Cub is an exception), I dont think it will look like as the patent images shown above.
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Old 9th November 2022, 20:46   #3
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Re: New Honda Scrambler 500cc patent leaks | Royal Enfield rival

Looks like I was wrong guys it's pretty close to the patent images. The CL500 scrambler, a bike that has long been keeping the rumour mill turning, has finally been shown to the world. Based heavily on the Rebel 500 it uses the same 471cc, water-cooled, parallel twin, the same one found in the Rebel 500 and middleweight CB500 series.

It's not a straight drop-in, however. The CL's engine has different fuel mapping and a new intake that gives the bike a claimed 46 horsepower and 32 lb.-ft. of torque. In addition, the bike is equipped with a modern take on the CL-series' upswept high pipes. The power is routed through a six-speed gearbox to a rear wheel fitted with a 41-tooth sprocket, one more tooth than the Rebel.

Further deviations from the Rebel platform can be found in the CL's wheels and suspension. Forward there's a 41mm fork with 5.9 inches of travel, while the aft suspension consists of a pair of preload-adjustable shocks with 5.7 inches of travel. For those of you keeping score, that's a respectable increase over the Rebel's 4.8 inches of front travel and 3.8 inches of rear travel. Combined with the CL's bigger cast wheels—a 19-inch hoop up front and a 17-inch one out back—the CL500 boasts just over six inches of ground clearance and a 31.1-inch seat height.

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