[shyamg28]

Originally Posted by Nilesh5417

Did you notice any lags when you open the throttle? A few mention this - it's minimal but you notice it is what has been said.

I noticed it too. And to be honest, wasn't bothered by it.
In fact, I would even attribute the motorcycle's forgiving nature off road, to that throttle response. It was never jerky. Smooth inputs all along.
I found the Triumph Speed 400 response to be the opposite. Open a millimeter and it lurched forward. Not my preference for sure.
I'd rather have it the way it is currently on the Himalayan.

[Nilesh5417]

Originally Posted by masterChief007

The kind of traffic I was in I didn't feel any. .

Originally Posted by kaushalswarup

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The lag is present, and evident. It doesn’t seem to be the case of lack of power down low, but more like a case of the ride-by-wire having an issue, causing the delay.
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Originally Posted by rakesh_r

I noticed that for sure, observed this when I started the engine and blipped the throttle. There was a noticeable delay in throttle response.

Thanks! So broadly it seems to be there - will take a test ride to see if it's a deal breaker. My bikes been already allotted.

[WhiskeyTangoFox]

Prices for certain accessories have been officially listed on the RE Website. Pictures below. However, the MiY Portal still states "Coming Soon" for all of these.

















The accessories for which the prices are yet to be listed are:
1. Hand Guards
2. Rally Mudguard
3. Fog Lights
4. Tail Pack
5. Rally Handlebar
6. Rally Gear Lever

If the price is right, which based on these, they are in the expected ballpark, I think the rally gear lever would be an excellent addition to the existing Himmy as well for folks who have large feet. The Handguards look pretty cool too! Maybe the aux lights and the Rally Brace Pad may also be retrofittable. Time will tell

[bharath79]

Originally Posted by Nilesh5417

Thanks! So broadly it seems to be there - will take a test ride to see if it's a deal breaker. My bikes been already allotted.

What did you mean alloted?

Regards
Bharath

[Nilesh5417]

Originally Posted by bharath79

What did you mean alloted?

Regards
Bharath

It needs a bit of explanation - i didn't know what other word to use.

I got a call from the dealer saying that if i want, they have the Hanle Black available with them. I was on a business trip so i said i will come check the bike once am back. An hour after the conversation, i got an sms from RE with the text - "We have postponed the delivery of your RE Himalayan Hanle Black C1 by 7 days."

[CodeEvo]

Booked the vehicle on Nov 7th. Estimated delivery is 1st week of February 2024 (Kaza Brown) If the intro price is not valid then I will cancel the booking and wait for an update on the tubeless rims as I am busy from March onwards and will barely be able to ride the bike. Initial plans was for a road trip during the later part of December-January.

[bhansali_hardik]

The pre-booking prices will hold good post 31st December as well. This is what RE dealer has confirmed in BLR which is Kwality, I’m not sure if this can be trusted. Since the company store has denied it!

Can someone cross validate and post an update here for everyone’s benefit?

[Sam9293]

Originally Posted by bhansali_hardik

The pre-booking prices will hold good post 31st December as well. This is what RE dealer has confirmed in BLR which is Kwality, I’m not sure if this can be trusted. Since the company store has denied it!

Can someone cross validate and post an update here for everyone’s benefit?

I dropped a mail to Royal Enfield support to verify the same using my Booking ID. They have shared the same in writing that if you have booked before 31st Dec'23 then the introductory price will hold good irrespective of the delivery date.

[CodeEvo]

I got the same email as well. This confirms that if the booking is made before 31st December 2023 we will get the current price even if the delivery is in 2024.

[bhansali_hardik]

Originally Posted by Sam9293

I dropped a mail to Royal Enfield support to verify the same using my Booking ID. They have shared the same in writing that if you have booked before 31st Dec'23 then the introductory price will hold good irrespective of the delivery date.

Originally Posted by CodeEvo

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I got the same email as well. This confirms that if the booking is made before 31st December 2023 we will get the current price even if the delivery is in 2024.

Thanks for validating!

This is a great move, provided the dealers stick to it. Also, not sure why the company store is denying this aspect. Either the customer care execs are well trained or not.

Either ways some respite, since there are very few limited deliveries available this month across dealerships.

Also, the kaza brown seems to be the choice of test ride vehicles across all the dealership outlets.

[skviknaraj]

Originally Posted by CodeEvo

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I got the same email as well. This confirms that if the booking is made before 31st December 2023 we will get the current price even if the delivery is in 2024.

Originally Posted by bhansali_hardik

Thanks for validating!

This is a great move, provided the dealers stick to it. Also, not sure why the company store is denying this aspect.

Keep these communications bookmarked. The dealers in the estimate always have a note which mentions "Price at the time of delivery will govern"

Another point to keep in mind is how they are going to handle the RTO aspect for the prices. As far as I know, the price once set cannot be modified for individual registrations. That is why one pays the road tax for the pre-discounted rate and discount is reduced in the final price. Let us see how this plays out.

[CodeEvo]

Originally Posted by skviknaraj

The price once set cannot be modified for individual registrations. That is why one pays the road tax for the pre-discounted rate and discount is reduced in the final price. Let us see how this plays out.

Oh! So you mean that once the new prices are out in January then they will need to invoice the bike as per the new price and then provide a discount for the difference? If that's the case won't we end up paying more for road tax and insurance?

How do car bookings work out then? I have seen them honouring the pre-booking price for some and a different price for others

[yogeshnaik]

I went to Motoverse (Rider Mania 2023) to Hill Top at Vagator, Goa taking pre-notions, high on expectations with a good mindset visualizing after reading the contents from the media and Royal Enfield's Influencers thinking I would book a Himalayan 450 Hanle Black colour. After visualising the Himalayan 450 in actual, I am still deciding, my friend is still in a slumber state whether to go for it or not.

Most important is, I enjoyed the ride approximately 1,327 Km to & fro on my Classic 350 Reborn from Bengaluru - Vagator, Goa - Bengaluru. With ample amount of detour on the way to Goa, the Royal Enfield Classic 350 Reborn is a versatile motorcycle and a blessings in disguise in terms of comfort while cruising on highway, bad stretches and on muddy roads, slush & rains.

The Motoverse event was from 24th to 26th November, 2023. I spent some good time to inspect the Himalayan 450 in terms of its overall looks, build quality, its new engine and ergonomics. I concluded it with a mixed bag of results and categorised them as below:
1. The Good
2. The OK
3. The improvement needed

Here are the details, same are narrated in the attached video link at the bottom.

1. The Good

a. Suspensions are excellent, they are Showa and they have to be nothing less than perfection.

i. Front - Showa upside down*forks, with separate functions
ii. Rear - Showa Mono-shock at the rear

b. IPC & Controls at ease, the Instrument Panel Cluster with TFT/LCD

i. Screen and the layout is good, the round shape is something new to accept and the missing real time needles are to be accepted for the new rider

c. Seats are excellent, they have a great job
d. Phenomenal Riding Ergonomics
e. Riding triangle is perfect & precisely adventure oriented

Perfect Riding triangle for the adventure motorcycle

2. The OK

a. Chassis weld quality
b. Short Stroke Engine

i. Felt less torque at < 2000 rpm
ii. Bailing out of a small puddle needs more throttle efforts unlike long stroke engines
iii. Delayed throttle response is significant, engine responds after a noticeable time frame after the throttle is twisted, not seen such behaviour in BMW G310 GS & KTM Adventure 390, where the latter two are ride-by-wire. Any sensitive person can make it out easily.
iv. Prominent Engine noise (harsh treble masking the actual exhaust note)

3. The Improvement Needed

a. Strange Engine noise found on ~500+ Km run engine

i. Tentatively could be the Tappets or the Timing Chain improper tension or the Crank’s Connecting Rod

b. Uniform weld quality is needed
c. Work on throttle body controller that is making a delayed throttle response.

Non uniform weld blobs

4. Frequent ON/OFF of Radiator Fan is observed
The radiator fan started often, even after the bike was idle for few minutes, this means in bumber to bumper traffic, we can expect the fan coming ON/OFF often. The colour on exhaust pipes indicated that a good amount of heat is generated. The hysteris curve can be fine-tuned here for the Radiator Fan's ON/OFF for the lower-threshold and higher-threshold of engine temperatures.

5. The Verdict:
After going through all these and considering its price point, I witheld my booking, wait for time based reports from the users and decide on the next version.

In a herd of motorcycles, we checked another vehicle that was ~200 Km run, but we felt that it will soon sound like the one that has run ~500Km
Note: I also owned 3 Royal Enfield motorcycles, namely, a Bullet Electra 350, an Interceptor 650 and now a Classic Reborn 350. Being a fanboy does not mean that the rider should mask the improvements to be conveyed to the manufacturer for fixing these. As a true BHPian, I conveyed to best of my findings as the first instance. I would love to see this product with the expected quality in the field as it is mentioned in most of the channels comparing with the quality as that of Triumph etc.

A bike lover likes all the bikes may be as rider's perspective or a designer's perspective or an engineer's perspective that goes from canvas till the simulations. Later it depends on what type of material goes into the actual production and it depends on the multiple factors on the production line. The dissatisfaction happens when expectations does not meet the reality and few some hyping and magnifying the product. There it loses the transparency of the conveyed message to the masses.

Again, the Rider Mania earlier, I saw it was full of emotions, that is why I came on my Classic 350 with that emotion, Motoverse (Rider Mania) was a bit different and difficult initially; the event became more fruitful when I met several Riders from Pune & Mumbai, especially some from Mumbai Riders as well, their view about Motoverse was the same.

For a true biker with engineering background, he/she does not discriminate nor hate but waits for the product to be made with the right expectation and perfection.

Video link:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i92s...BoCrJHl4AaABAg

A complete video on the review of Himalayan 450 at Motoverse, Hill Top, Vagator, Goa

[skviknaraj]

Originally Posted by CodeEvo

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How do car bookings work out then? I have seen them honouring the pre-booking price for some and a different price for others

With respect to Kawasaki bikes, when the stock clearance discount was announced, the discount was on the final price. The road tax was billed on the pre-discount ex-showroom price. The ex-showroom price I believe has to be filled from the manufacturer end to the system.

If each dealer could enter the price in the RTO system, more cash would have exchanged hands and road tax would have literally peanuts. Guess this system is in place to prevent such wrongdoings.

Hopefully persons who have first hand experience regarding differing ex-showroom prices can throw some light. Or may be someone familiar with the RTO workings?

[masterChief007]

Originally Posted by CodeEvo

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I got the same email as well. This confirms that if the booking is made before 31st December 2023 we will get the current price even if the delivery is in 2024.

The price sheet that I got from the showroom mentions "Price applicable is at the time of Invoice". So the company statement and the showroom declaration are at odds here. In case RE assures of this intro price to be applicable at delivery, then I am sure bookings will surge near the 25th Dec as there will be a lot of self sponsored Santas will deem themselves to be "good boy" and get their bookings done