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Old 7th November 2023, 13:40   #511
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Re: 2023 Royal Enfield Himalayan 450 | Now officially revealed

During the event there was a QR code blip and it lead to the booking page

https://www.royalenfield.com/in/en/m...new-himalayan/
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Re: 2023 Royal Enfield Himalayan 450 | Now officially revealed

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When you are talking about pricing, or choice of bikes, comparisons are completely natural. No bike exists in a vacuum silo.

Especially when two bikes are in the same cc (weight) class and near similar performance specs. If there is a differential of a significant amout of purchase money, its pretty natural for a rider to want to know why. What for. Is it really worth it.

Cheers, Doc
Thanks Doc.
You spoke exactly whats going in my mind. I am looking to replace my 10 years old Bullet 500 UCE with a bike capable of office commute as well as touring. 'No bike exists in isolation' cant agree enough. I am considering various options, from Speed 400 to 390 adventure to Himalayan to 390 Duke and few more . say apple to banana comparison or whatever , but I am looking for most bang for the buck. Though I want my bike to be cable of going on any sort of road, I have no intention to do pure off-roading. I have done 600+ Kms in a day on My Duke 200 and I loved it. It performed really well on bad, under construction road between Mollem and Ramnagar ( Bangalore - Goa trip).

Price is important factor for RE. Current Himalayan ( 411) is selling for around 2.15L exshowroom ,so anything above 2.4L for Himalayan 450 will not be VFM for me (Purely personal opinion).


1) Dominor 400 - 2.3L
2) Speed 400 - 2.33L
3) 390 Adventure X - 2.83L.

All the above have liquid cooled engine and produce power greater than or equal to that of Himalayan 450. Also unlike initial batch of Himalayan 411, above bikes have proven their reliability(though long term review of speed 400 is yet to come)

Cheers !
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Re: 2023 Royal Enfield Himalayan 450 | Now officially revealed

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Booked!!
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Re: 2023 Royal Enfield Himalayan 450 | Now officially revealed

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Thanks Doc.
You spoke exactly whats going in my mind. I am looking to replace my 10 years old Bullet 500 UCE with a bike capable of office commute as well as touring. 'No bike exists in isolation' cant agree enough. I am considering various options, from Speed 400 to 390 adventure to Himalayan to 390 Duke and few more . say apple to banana comparison or whatever , but I am looking for most bang for the buck. Though I want my bike to be cable of going on any sort of road, I have no intention to do pure off-roading. I have done 600+ Kms in a day on My Duke 200 and I loved it. It performed really well on bad, under construction road between Mollem and Ramnagar ( Bangalore - Goa trip).

Price is important factor for RE. Current Himalayan ( 411) is selling for around 2.15L exshowroom ,so anything above 2.4L for Himalayan 450 will not be VFM for me (Purely personal opinion).


1) Dominor 400 - 2.3L
2) Speed 400 - 2.33L
3) 390 Adventure X - 2.83L.

All the above have liquid cooled engine and produce power greater than or equal to that of Himalayan 450. Also unlike initial batch of Himalayan 411, above bikes have proven their reliability(though long term review of speed 400 is yet to come)

Cheers !
Beautifully put. A purchase decision is a complex one and there is no one size fits all. If you are coming from a Duke 200 pedigree, and then shifted to a Bullet 500 UCE, I know exactly what you are thinking of, and where you are headed.

Specs are one thing. Price is another. Image and community and heritage and lifestyle all get clubbed into one for marques like Harley Davidson and Royal Enfield, and to an extent at a different end of the spectrum, in my experience, Ducati and Triumph too. Though the Triumph boys are less elitist and tend to mingle better. Overall. A general statement.

For me the most important factor is an intangible one. Its how I feel on and with the bike. And the furst whack of the throttle. I know if a bike is for me in the first 500 meters of the first ride. Its either a yes or a no. There is no maybe.

When you get into the maybe, the brain takes over. And all the equations enumerated above.

Peace. Lets wait for the price.

Cheers, Doc
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Congratulations!!

What is the booking amount? Pricing wasn't announced during the live stream so I presume it's not on the website as well?
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Congratulations!!

What is the booking amount? Pricing wasn't announced during the live stream so I presume it's not on the website as well?
The booking amount is Rs.10,000 on the website.
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Re: 2023 Royal Enfield Himalayan 450 | Now officially revealed

looks like the pre-bookings have sold out or ran into a problem, I tried doing a pre-booking but it failed with error from various platforms/IPs.
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Re: 2023 Royal Enfield Himalayan 450 | Now officially revealed

Royal Enfield showcasing its all-new Himalayan 452 at EICMA.

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Pre-bookings for the all-new Himalayan are open today, and it will be on display at the company's Rider Mania festival in India on Nov 24th.



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Re: 2023 Royal Enfield Himalayan 450 | Now officially revealed

This must be one of the most awaited launches of the year. Pre-bookings filled up within the hour I suppose? Or was it minutes?
Kudos to RE for making such a big leap from the old Himalayan to his beautiful motorcycle. Proud of them to bring up the standards of Indian motorcycle manufacturers who deserve more credit than they are due.
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Re: 2023 Royal Enfield Himalayan 450 | Now officially revealed

I booked through dealer. Pre booking amount ₹10,000.00

Just received this sms

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Re: 2023 Royal Enfield Himalayan 450 | Now officially revealed

Prebooking seems to be back up now.
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looks like the pre-bookings have sold out or ran into a problem, I tried doing a pre-booking but it failed with error from various platforms/IPs.
I was getting the same error pal, but on trying continuously could get through. I even called Customer Support who told me to be patient and keep trying! Booked finally!
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Re: 2023 Royal Enfield Himalayan 450 | Now officially revealed

Looking at the new Himalayan 450, it seems like RE has been patiently listening to the riders complaints as well as praises for the old Himalayan 410. They have bumped up the power to 40 BHP from a 450cc Water Cooled Mill while retaining the characteristic torque delivery throughout the rev band. I am also liking the fact that they have gone back to the tubular frame chassis while using the engine as a stressed member in the new Himalayan 450. The old Himalayan 410 was plagued with chassis related problems due to the box frame chassis design.

People doing cross shopping vis a vis the new Himalayan "only on the basis of price" need to test ride all the shortlisted motorcycles before taking a decision. RE has set a cat (Himalayan 450) among pigeons in the beginner ADV motorcycle category. Going by the quality in their recent lineup of motorcycles (especially Super Meteor 650), the new Himalayan will have a tall order to fill. Looking at the response here and elsewhere RE has a winner in Himalayan 450.

Sincerely hope that RE gives alloy wheels as an option for those who do soft roading/touring. I for one would wait till the tubeless spoke wheels arrive
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Re: 2023 Royal Enfield Himalayan 450 | Now officially revealed

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Thanks Doc.
You spoke exactly whats going in my mind.

Price is important factor for RE. Current Himalayan ( 411) is selling for around 2.15L exshowroom ,so anything above 2.4L for Himalayan 450 will not be VFM for me (Purely personal opinion).

1) Dominor 400 - 2.3L
2) Speed 400 - 2.33L
3) 390 Adventure X - 2.83L.

All the above have liquid cooled engine and produce power greater than or equal to that of Himalayan 450. Also unlike initial batch of Himalayan 411, above bikes have proven their reliability(though long term review of speed 400 is yet to come)
So I'm adding the more important and relevant Triumph to the mix which you've missed out here ... the Scrambler.

1) Dominar 400 - 2.30L
2) Speed 400 - 2.33L
3) Scrambler 400 - 2.63L
3) 390 Adventure X - 2.83L

The Himalayan 450 has some important points going for it.

The biggest tank at 17 liters (I think the Adventure is next at 14.5 or 15 liters). Tank range of course is a function of how much you can fill and how much your bike can eke out, but the Himalayan has the biggest tank first off.

The Himalayan also has the maximum suspension travel of the 3 (I'm mainly comparing the Himalayan with the Triumph and the KTM ... somehow I do not believe the Dominar cuts it, having ridden one a couple of times if not more while buying my son's bike). At 200 mm of travel, the KTM comes next at 170/177 mm, and the Scrambler retains its street 150 mm front and rear.
That said, 150 mm is plenty if you know how to ride and where to plant your bike and the line your front wheel needs to take. Just saying (I simply HATE tall bikes).

The Himalayan has the biggest front wheel at 21 inches, followed by the 19 inchers of the KTM and Triumph. Honestly, 17 inchers do just fine, and the same caveat as above applies, as ditto for the 230 mm of ground clearance of the Himalayan versus the 200 and 195 mm of the KTM and Triumph respectively.

Power and torque figures are near to each other for all three, with the KTM boasting of the highest power by 4 bhp, and the Himalayan the highest torque by 3 Nm. How much that actually translates on the road and trails only time will tell. I for one personally know how the Triumph with near similar numbers as the KTM mill actually feels on the road.

The KTM is the lightest of them all, a whopping 20 kilos lighter than the Himalayan with the Triumph splitting the two exactly midway, at 177 kilos versus 196 kilos versus 185 kilos. There is a HUGE perceptible difference between 196 kilos and 185 kilos of bike. Forget 196 versus 177 kilos. Swing a leg over the bikes and feel it for yourselves. Any bikes those weights. Regardless of their balance and dynamic characteristics.

For me honestly, THIS is where the game ends in this comparo, without even getting into the obvious reliability, build, and engine performance supremacy of the KTM over the other 2.

Also, neither the KTM nor the Triumph have the legacy of a history of chassis snapping in two. Something every rider with real world experience away from the internet will always have at the back of his mind going in.

Is the Price out yet?

Cheers, Doc

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