Why no need of Rear View Mirror in motorcycles ?

mithun · 27th January 2007, 04:53

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Rear View Mirror (Rule# 125 - CMV Rules)
Every motor vehicle, except motor cycles, must be fitted with a rear view mirror in such a way that the driver has a clear vision of the traffic behind.

I'm wondering why motorcycles don't need a Rear View Mirror ?

Anyone having any idea ???

WILDTHING · 27th January 2007, 05:05

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Originally Posted by mithun

I'm wondering why motorcycles don't need a Rear View Mirror ?

Anyone having any idea ???

hey,
Motor Cycles dont require rear view mirrors as the motorbikes have side mirrors like cars and are very close to each other on the handle of the bike.thus no place for rear vies mirrors. and rear view mirrors are on the roof of the car but a bike has no roof.
Cheers.

gonecase_01 · 27th January 2007, 10:26

Also what will you see if you keep your rear view mirror at the center of the handle bars...
i mean the only reflection it will be able to give will be of the rider only....
and not the traffic behing it...

tsk1979 · 27th January 2007, 13:39

I think mithun means side mirrors only. They are RV mirrors for a bike, and apparently in a bike you can get away from law even without the side view mirrors.

hari_rama · 27th January 2007, 18:26

so does that mean there is no compulsary rule for mirrors in bikes??last week a friend of mine got charged for not having one....he also got a receipt of 200rs afaik.....

mithun · 30th January 2007, 04:39

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Originally Posted by WILDTHING

hey,
Motor Cycles dont require rear view mirrors as the motorbikes have side mirrors like cars and are very close to each other on the handle of the bike.thus no place for rear vies mirrors. and rear view mirrors are on the roof of the car but a bike has no roof.
Cheers.

When we mean RVM in the mobikes, we usually associate it with the two side RVM's and not the internal RVM's present on the cars AND folks will never ever put up a big windshield and fit a mirror on it. So what does this CMV rule propagate ???

benbsb29 · 31st January 2007, 13:27

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Originally Posted by hari_rama

so does that mean there is no compulsary rule for mirrors in bikes??last week a friend of mine got charged for not having one....he also got a receipt of 200rs afaik.....

Where was this friend of yours based??
Maybe the cops who fined him needs to look at a majority of 2 wheelers in Hyderabad, where these are seen as only a luxury.

When i bought my Pulsar Classic 150, my friends with all due humbleness asked me to have them removed, as it would make the bike look more sporty. I politely refused.

chanapli · 31st January 2007, 13:37

I am not sure about this. All these time I was under impression the RVM is must for motor cycles. Infact I had been charged ( bribed - finally) for not using RVM in Bangalore as well as in Kerala ( way back!).

The rule 125 in ( Motor Vehicle Rules in India.) says RVM is a must?.

rks · 31st January 2007, 13:41

If that is the rule then it is wrong. My experience of riding a scooter convinced me that both rear-view mirrors are absolutely essential for safe driving. Snappy lane changes without RVM's is a dangerous proposition in two-wheelers, especially since you are overtaken by faster four-wheelers all the time.

theMAG · 31st January 2007, 14:25

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Originally Posted by mithun

I'm wondering why motorcycles don't need a Rear View Mirror ?

Anyone having any idea ???

Probably something to do with the fact that during the time one takes his eyes off the road while looking into the difficult to use RVMs, 2 buses and 3 lorries would have run over him

rks · 31st January 2007, 14:40

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Originally Posted by theMAG

Probably something to do with the fact that during the time one takes his eyes off the road while looking into the difficult to use RVMs, 2 buses and 3 lorries would have run over him

If you don't use RVM's then you would have to take a quick look over your shoulders before cutting lanes (or swerving to avoid potholes/stones) and that is definitely more unsafe because you lose even peripheral vision of the road ahead. Then there are those characters that don't bother to check whether there are vehicles behind them before cutting lanes/swerving -- obviously they are risking their own and possibly other people's lives.

Of course one point that must be remembered is that the RVM's of two-wheelers give only a limited view behind and on a wide/curving road, they could end up missing some fast-moving vehicle following them. Having two RVM's alleviates this problem to some extent.

Jaggu · 31st January 2007, 14:46

i think mirrors are required even for registration, maybe rule is referring to central mirror or this is quoting an older law

theMAG · 31st January 2007, 14:54

They're also completely useless during nights and dazzling headlights behind.

sreenivass · 31st January 2007, 14:54

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Originally Posted by hari_rama

so does that mean there is no compulsary rule for mirrors in bikes??last week a friend of mine got charged for not having one....he also got a receipt of 200rs afaik.....

Quote:

Originally Posted by benbsb29

Where was this friend of yours based??
Maybe the cops who fined him needs to look at a majority of 2 wheelers in Hyderabad, where these are seen as only a luxury.

When i bought my Pulsar Classic 150, my friends with all due humbleness asked me to have them removed, as it would make the bike look more sporty. I politely refused.

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Originally Posted by Jaggu

i think mirrors are required even for registration, maybe rule is referring to central mirror or this is quoting an older law

I read in a local news paper yesterday about rear view mirrors for two wheelers. The paper quotes RVMs are must per law. Also about the troubles of not having them (turning head 130+ degrees, neck muscle problem, etc..)

Sujith1100 · 7th January 2010, 02:11

What a stupid question asked. If you are a responsible rider and have some driving sense, then you would never ever remove the RVM from any vehicle.
I have a 1994 model Kinetic Honda which came only with one R-RVM but I got an L-RVM fitted too because of the mad rush in one-way roads, where people drives like buzzing angry bees! The same with my 1978 Padmini, I got 2 side RVM for it.

And for God's sake at least do not remove the RVMs of any vehicle thinking it gives sporty looks.(Still insist on looks then sporty looking RVMs are availble) Height of Stupidity, You ll never know when a mad drunk driver or a brake-failed truck is speeding towards you from behind.

thinking over
-always set the RVMs before you start your ride/drive
-trap the helmet
-wear seat belts, even 40kph can kill !

27th January 2007, 10:26	#3
gonecase_01 BHPian Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Mumbai Posts: 163 Thanked: 2 Times	Also what will you see if you keep your rear view mirror at the center of the handle bars... i mean the only reflection it will be able to give will be of the rider only.... and not the traffic behing it...
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27th January 2007, 13:39	#4
tsk1979 Team-BHP Support Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 23,695 Thanked: 23,484 Times View My Garage	I think mithun means side mirrors only. They are RV mirrors for a bike, and apparently in a bike you can get away from law even without the side view mirrors.
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27th January 2007, 18:26	#5
hari_rama BHPian Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Trichur Posts: 270 Thanked: 16 Times View My Garage	so does that mean there is no compulsary rule for mirrors in bikes??last week a friend of mine got charged for not having one....he also got a receipt of 200rs afaik.....
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31st January 2007, 13:37	#8
chanapli BHPian Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Banglaore Posts: 270 Thanked: Once	I am not sure about this. All these time I was under impression the RVM is must for motor cycles. Infact I had been charged ( bribed - finally) for not using RVM in Bangalore as well as in Kerala ( way back!). The rule 125 in ( Motor Vehicle Rules in India.) says RVM is a must?.
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31st January 2007, 13:41	#9
rks BANNED Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: ?? Posts: 1,237 Thanked: 19 Times	If that is the rule then it is wrong. My experience of riding a scooter convinced me that both rear-view mirrors are absolutely essential for safe driving. Snappy lane changes without RVM's is a dangerous proposition in two-wheelers, especially since you are overtaken by faster four-wheelers all the time.
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31st January 2007, 14:46	#12
Jaggu Team-BHP Support Join Date: May 2004 Location: Bangalore Posts: 20,381 Thanked: 17,282 Times	i think mirrors are required even for registration, maybe rule is referring to central mirror or this is quoting an older law
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theMAG Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: May 2006 Location: Avon, CT Posts: 7,196 Thanked: 1,821 Times View My Garage	They're also completely useless during nights and dazzling headlights behind.
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7th January 2010, 02:11	#15
Sujith1100 BANNED Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: BANGalore Posts: 729 Thanked: 22 Times	What a stupid question asked. If you are a responsible rider and have some driving sense, then you would never ever remove the RVM from any vehicle. I have a 1994 model Kinetic Honda which came only with one R-RVM but I got an L-RVM fitted too because of the mad rush in one-way roads, where people drives like buzzing angry bees! The same with my 1978 Padmini, I got 2 side RVM for it. And for God's sake at least do not remove the RVMs of any vehicle thinking it gives sporty looks.(Still insist on looks then sporty looking RVMs are availble) Height of Stupidity, You ll never know when a mad drunk driver or a brake-failed truck is speeding towards you from behind. thinking over -always set the RVMs before you start your ride/drive -trap the helmet -wear seat belts, even 40kph can kill !
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