[CrAzY dRiVeR]

Source - https://gaadiwaadi.com/honda-cb300r-...aunch-details/

As per Gaadiwaadi sources - Honda has patented the CB150R Exmotion in India (which they seem to have wrongly identified as the CB300R). The badge on the tank, and the underseat exhausts reveal its the 150R Exmotion and not the 300.

The eyeball-grabbing styling emphasises the compact profile of the CB300R and excitingly we can reveal that it has been patented in India. The speculations of CB300R’s possible domestic entry have come and gone in recent past but the patent image does show Honda’s interest in the entry-level premium naked segment.

Read more at: https://gaadiwaadi.com/honda-cb300r-...aunch-details/

Honda CB150R Exmotion is a modern take on a classic cafe racer. In terms of its dimensions, the CB150R ExMotion measures 1973mm in length, 822 mm in width and has a maximum height of 1053 mm. The bike weighs 125 kgs for the ABS equipped variant.

Honda CB150R Exmotion is powered by a 149cc, liquid-cooled single engine which is said to produce around 20hp though Honda Thailand site doesn't qoute the exact figures, and is paired with a 6-speed transmission. With USD fork, ABS equipped Nissin brakes and a multifunction LCD display - this will certainly be positioned as a premium 150, incase it gets launched in the Indian market.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tu0w3074Svo

[payeng]

According to me it could a good idea to launch this model. Naked's are practical than full faired models and this one is gorgeous too.

USD forks, ABS, Fi and a 150 cc engine means it would return good fuel efficiency figures. Looks like a fun ride.

[theexperthand]

Looks handsome, looks better than the current crop of 150 CC bikes out there. This will garner sales since it looks good and will return good mileage too. Talk about having your cake and eating it.

Wish they launched it with the 250 CC engine also - will be a good alternative to Duke 200/250, for those who value refinement over mad power.

--Anoop

[payeng]

Originally Posted by theexperthand

Looks handsome, looks better than the current crop of 150 CC bikes out there. This will garner sales since it looks good and will return good mileage too. Talk about having your cake and eating it.

Wish they launched it with the 250 CC engine also - will be a good alternative to Duke 200/250, for those who value refinement over mad power.

--Anoop

A modern 150/160 cc bike can run circles around India's best budget lifestyle motorcycle. Just for the sake of argument, how fast can one ride a Royal Enfield 350/500?

I am ok with the 150 cc engine. Good fuel efficiency would be a plus also. The CBR250R/KTM200 & 390 are also there who wants more power/a bigger engine. For 150 cc full faired model,the wonderful Yamaha R15 is there.

This one fills a gap nicely according to me.

[R-Six]

This one looks like a very good package! Bring it on Honda!

6 speed transmission on a 150 CC motor would mean that this is going to be fuel efficient as well. If launched within the FZ territory, this can give a good competition for the FZs and Gixers.

Ride Safe,
R-Six

[payeng]

Originally Posted by R-Six

This one looks like a very good package! Bring it on Honda!

6 speed transmission on a 150 CC motor would mean that this is going to be fuel efficient as well. If launched within the FZ territory, this can give a good competition for the FZs and Gixers.

Ride Safe,
R-Six

Too optimistic. Will be clearly above FZs and Gixxers.

Will be easily close to the R15 in terms of pricing. What does it lack compared to the R15, just a plastic fairing? Come to think of it, it also got ABS and USD forks that the R15 doesn't have.

[CrAzY dRiVeR]

Originally Posted by payeng

Will be easily close to the R15 in terms of pricing. What does it lack compared to the R15

True. Old CBR 150 territory might be more realistic, considering the liquid cooled engine and all that kit.

[ashwinprakas]

Originally Posted by payeng

USD forks that the R15 doesn't have.

I do get the ABS bit but I'm still not able to wrap my head around USD's, they make no sense in our riding conditions especially without a sock/boot.

As for the CB150R, looks to be more show that go, especially considering that the machine is set to squeeze 20 ponies out of the 150cc single pot mill. Even with a state of the art FI system in place with a knock sensor and the works I still doubt our people would have it burning oil within a short while with their pantented FE centric riding style.

[payeng]

Originally Posted by ashwinprakas

I do get the ABS bit but I'm still not able to wrap my head around USD's, they make no sense in our riding conditions especially without a sock/boot.

It (USD) would be as usefull as a fat rear tyre on a 13-14 bhp bike (the FZ-Gixxer-Hornet 160). Now don't the customer's like a FAT rear tyre? An USD front fork looks BEEFY, that's what would matter for the majority.

Originally Posted by ashwinprakas

As for the CB150R, looks to be more show that go, especially considering that the machine is set to squeeze 20 ponies out of the 150cc single pot mill.

What's wrong with that?

Isn't the FZ, Gixxer, Hornet 160R even Royal Enfield's more about show than go? If the consumer wants that? Who are we to argue?

[ashwinprakas]

Originally Posted by payeng

It (USD) would be as usefull as a fat rear tyre on a 13-14 bhp bike (the FZ-Gixxer-Hornet 160). Now don't the customer's like a FAT rear tyre? An USD front fork looks BEEFY, that's what would matter for the majority.

God save our people. Jokes apart the more I see motorcycles like these being available in the market I get more attached to my current motorcycles.

What's wrong with that?

Isn't the FZ, Gixxer, Hornet 160R even Royal Enfield's more about show than go? If the consumer wants that? Who are we to argue?

Amen to that! I just hope the enthusiasts have better taste in motorcycles than the general census, can't imagine a day when I'd be the only one riding to a G2G on a classic motorcycle.

[theexperthand]

Originally Posted by payeng

A modern 150/160 cc bike can run circles around India's best budget lifestyle motorcycle. Just for the sake of argument, how fast can one ride a Royal Enfield 350/500?

I am ok with the 150 cc engine. Good fuel efficiency would be a plus also. The CBR250R/KTM200 & 390 are also there who wants more power/a bigger engine. For 150 cc full faired model,the wonderful Yamaha R15 is there.

This one fills a gap nicely according to me.

Agree that this fills a gap and I am all in for the 150 cc offering, but I wish if they come up with an additional 250 cc variant also so that it will cater to those who want a refined naked 250-300cc bike.

On a lighter note, come to Bangalore and you will be pleasantly surprised to see how fast some people ride an RE here, in traffic. They ride it like it is an RX100 and that too, at a good whack - with the ubiquitous LOUD phat phat exhausts.

--Anoop

[payeng]

Originally Posted by theexperthand

Agree that this fills a gap and I am all in for the 150 cc offering, but I wish if they come up with an additional 250 cc variant also so that it will cater to those who want a refined naked 250-300cc bike

Yamaha FZ25, KTM 250 Duke, Mahindra Mojo, Bajaj Dominar and the BMW G310R (Naked 250-300 cc) are available in India.

Wouldn't it be easier to sell a product where there is no competition rather than fight with other competitors?

[theexperthand]

Originally Posted by payeng

Yamaha FZ25, KTM 250 Duke, Mahindra Mojo, Bajaj Dominar and the BMW G310R (Naked 250-300 cc) are available in India.

Yahama FZ25 - 20.9 PS. No ABS. Enough said.

KTM 250 Duke - No ABS, same high revving engine, mad power delivery, but low on refinement.

Mojo - Low on power delivery, hit or miss styling, unnecessary weight (twin-end cans), No ABS.

Dominar - Not exactly 250-300, but price wise in the same ballpark. Not as mad as duke but not as smooth as a Honda. To me, it is a neither here nor there bike but one of the best compromise. Looks good on paper, but Duke is miles ahead in the handling department.

BMW G310R - Price.

There is still a market for a refined 250-300 with ABS and I personally know more than a few friends who do not want to get any of the above-mentioned bikes (barring Dominar) due to lack of ABS.

Wouldn't it be easier to sell a product where there is no competition rather than fight with other competitors?

Indian market is the king of cross shopping. I do agree that the 150 CC space lacks a premium offering and Exmotion will have the first mover advantage, but price it too close to the bikes you listed out and many people will cross shop, partially negating the no competitor advantage..


Since Honda already have all the ingredients in place, all I am saying is, it will be good if they can launch a 250 CC version too. A la CBR150 and CBR 250.

--Anoop

[am1m]

Originally Posted by theexperthand

There is still a market for a refined 250-300 with ABS and I personally know more than a few friends who do not want to get any of the above-mentioned bikes (barring Dominar) due to lack of ABS.

Yessir! I dunno if there's a market big enough, but I'm waiting for something like this. As you said, the Dominar looks the best compromise, but having already owned a Pulsar, am still skeptical about Bajaj quality.

[payeng]

Originally Posted by theexperthand

There is still a market for a refined 250-300 with ABS and I personally know more than a few friends who do not want to get any of the above-mentioned bikes (barring Dominar) due to lack of ABS.

Don't worry bikes with engine >125 cc would get ABS from Apr 2019.

Get the FZ25 with ABS then. Don't worry about power figures on paper.