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Originally Posted by SoumenD Very few journos talked about the quickshifter thingy. |
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Originally Posted by Red Liner God, I hope he didn’t laugh at our ‘Moto’ journalists. |
From what i know it was a tightly packed ride event and very few of the joruno's who attended are hard core riders. So very few would have really tried to figure this out, with that short tarmac bit.
I for one would have loved to attend and learn some basics from Adam but media events are like clockwork factory environment. One of the worst place to learn or to do a proper review.
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To put simply, it is NOT a replacement for the clutch. And in fact is a useless feature for the average rider, heck! Even enthusiasts would rarely be using the novelty. |
I have also told same thing here on the thread, it is at best a novelty. I have used it in Moralfiber's BMW and yea its fun on highway, but not really a fast way to shift in city traffic.
If KTM is listening, i would anyday vote for the adjustable WP Vs this stupid gimmick! All the video's show how the suspension is crashing and that is what an adjustable insert will solve to an extent. And then one can atleast look at running little lower pressure. With the current set up and low pressure, am pretty sure one is either looking at burst sidewall or bent rim.
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Originally Posted by petrolhead_neel What absolutely blows my mind is how ABS and traction control have to be to be adjusted every time the bike turns off.
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Imagine an R version of the 390 Adventure with revised gearing, a different map, a 21inch front wheel and an upswept exhaust... if wishes were horses! |
The ride modes and setting returning to safe ON option is claimed as a "safety feature" by KTM world over. The issue has been there in other adv bikes from their stable for a while. Logic though is hated by almost every rider. Am not sure if the shortcuts can be customised to go to these settings, which would be the easiest workaround if you ask me.
There would be No R as far as 390 is concerned, they might provide a spoke wheel sometime next year. That's about it.
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Originally Posted by Red Liner So apparently the traction control issue will be fixed via a software update in a bit. Almost everyone one at the press ride complained about this, and i think KTM will take action. |
Don't think it would be that easy a thing, there would be a long wait for such things to go through testing and validation cycles before coming in. The more complex the systems like cornering controls, more longer the wait
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Originally Posted by petrolhead_neel Both of them think that the Adventure tag should have brought about more of KTM's off-road DNA, and this is more like a 390 GT. I think KTM clearly played along the lines of the current state of this 'small ADV' market. The Himalayan has significantly more suspension travel, 10% or so more ground clearance, spoked wheels and a torque curve more suited to riding off road. |
I am really amused by the expectations people have with these bikes, both Himalayan and 390 adventure are entry-level touring bikes, that can take a few broken roads and minor trails which you encounter when you tour a country. They are NOT scrambler like offroad bikes, neither dune bashing Dakar bikes. Somewhere all these unrealistic expectations have crept into the mind of people.
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Originally Posted by timuseravan I think this completely sums up the bike. It is Duke 390 with slightly better suspension.
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When the bike was announced a couple of years back, I had predicted that realistically the ADV would be 390 with better suspension. But people (even here on TBHP) kept claiming that the super KTM engineers would tune the engine to give fantastic low end grunt, the suspension would be amazing etc etc |
Tune they could have but now we will have to get it done elsewhere, and suspesnion they messed up removing the adjustable bits, which again has to be imported now! But yes it is a 390 on stilts for now, don't expect it to be something else.
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Originally Posted by ashwinprakas Though jokes apart KTM does have the technology at hand. |
Is part of power sport part in Europe and elsewhere.
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The only reason that warrants the provision of the quick shifter is that being predominantly a programmable addon it is a cost effective means of advertising their product as a feature packed VFM offering, the perfect bait for a diaspora like ours.
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BINGO!!
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Anyhow, I'm curious to see how things would go, my best guess so far is like the Interceptor hype seen in our very own forum this would also experience the sorts albeit a radical bell curve nonetheless.
Regards,
A.P.
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Even I think they are not going to move out that fast at the current on-road price.
But guilty here, my bike is coming soon lol.