[tharian]

Originally Posted by tharian

There is a way to check offenses.
The decibel meter was used initially which is not the case now. The nuisance that is caused is due to very loud exhausts that are audible if the vehicle is 200m away too.
Generalizing it is easy but not all know the specifics when it comes to what is within the limit and not and that is what the cops need to do right.

I lost a horn saying it was loud, and it was loud just because it was a dual set? Heck, my 2002 Enfield came with a dual set from the factory.

Originally Posted by manaljain

Cops owe you the cost of your destroyed Exhaust!

*Sorry for a very long post..
But his words had to be spread!

This is exactly what I had mentioned earlier when many members generalized just because the poster was a victim of this and some Bullet was going past their location with a loud exhaust.
The cops are just doing this to show that they are actually working on this complaint and keeping the exhausts and horns confiscated to show as proof in social media.
And again as I mentioned in the previous page, the people who have these loud exhausts will no pass the decibel reading even on idle if it is taken using the right process and these guys are still riding with their loud exhausts!

[manaljain]

Transport Commissioner: Cancel RC (registration certificate) of cars & two wheelers with ‘defective silencers’

The Transport Commissioner of Bangalore, B. Dayananda, has stepped up the drive against car and two wheelers running ‘defective silencers’. The registration certificate (RC) of violating vehicles will be cancelled for a period of four months. The Transport Commissioner has also asked traffic police to refer erring vehicle to the RTO for RC cancellation. He has asked them to consider cases of ‘defective silencers’ at par with drunken driving cases, which also attract RC suspension.



Here is his statement on the same,
We will also ask the traffic police to refer cases for suspension of RCs after filing cases against the owners of vehicles with defective silencers

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[manaljain]

Bangalore Traffic Police is actively pursuing its loud silencer removal drive.
The silencer gets taken off and you're charged 2k for the offense.














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[ACM]

So why is the import of V&H, Screaming eagles, Arrow, Two Brothers etc. allowed for superbikes? Ban the import of after market exhausts itself and the local sales also.

The police can simply raid HD and Triumph service centres and catch enough bikes. Also fine HD for sales of Screaming eagles.

[chinkara]

Originally Posted by ACM

So why is the import of V&H, Screaming eagles, Arrow, Two Brothers etc. allowed for superbikes? Ban the import of after market exhausts itself and the local sales also.

The police can simply raid HD and Triumph service centres and catch enough bikes. Also fine HD for sales of Screaming eagles.

Someone with more legal knowledge can clarify, but I heard that there is no problem if you mod your bike to nth degree and use in private roads only.

So, the offence is not modding per se, but modding a bike with a registration (which is effectively a permit to ply on public roads) and then using it on public roads. You can use it on a racing track / private road without problem.

Legal sharks, please clarify.

[knrn]

Quoting and adding to what Giridhar Soundarajan said.
The legal limit is 120 dB at 5 metres. But since most of us are not aware cops take us for a ride.
DB levels for the long bottle Punjab dholki silencer peak at 180-200 dB.
Short bottle Punjabi dholki is 160 dB.

I owned one when this ban was placed. Had to change my silencer when I came back to Punjab. Proud owner of a barrel and giri the dB levels are 108 at the silencers tip and 90 at 5 metres. Got stopped twice in delhi and chandigarh but was within legal limits.
I too feel cops are targeting bullet riders.

In the light of what's going on, it is best to remain at a low throttle when you see cops. That's what I feel.

[aravind.anand]

Originally Posted by ACM

So why is the import of V&H, Screaming eagles, Arrow, Two Brothers etc. allowed for superbikes? Ban the import of after market exhausts itself and the local sales also.

The police can simply raid HD and Triumph service centres and catch enough bikes. Also fine HD for sales of Screaming eagles.

If you read between the lines, you will notice that all these performance exhaust options have a small disclaimer which proclaims that it if for track use only. Even the up-swept exhaust option from RE clearly says it is for off-road use only, and that is also the reason why the service center will hand the owner the original silencer if he opts for the louder up-swept exhaust fitment.

[ACM]

Originally Posted by aravind.anand

If you read between the lines, you will notice that all these performance exhaust options have a small disclaimer which proclaims that...

Originally Posted by chinkara

Someone with more legal knowledge can clarify, but I heard that there is no problem if you mod your bike to nth degree and use in private roads only.

So, the offence is not modding per se, but modding a bike with a registration (which is effectively a permit to ply on public roads) and then using it on public roads. You can use it on a racing track

Hey, I was intentionally kinda sarcastic in my post.

Yep all branded imported aftermarket exhausts mention that they are only for track purposes.

Now the practical bits:

This implies that after installation the bikes need to be taken home on flat-beds. Even while visiting service centres the bikes need to be brought and taken back on flat-bed carriers only. Cannot be driven on public roads at all.

Hence suggested that the police just stand OUTSIDE HD and Triumph service centres. 80% of bikes coming in for service would be found to break the law.

This is just me being sadistic.

Heck a road roller parked outside the service centre would destroy lakhs worth of silencers each day.


And once down with the bigger brands, RE and Kawasaki can be taken on next.

So much peace established, so much foreign exchange saved, so many egos cut down to size, no-one is special anymore.

HD will have to raise bike prices to compensate for the biggest component lost from the Harley tax.

[ethanhunt123]

Originally Posted by aravind.anand

If you read between the lines, you will notice that all these performance exhaust options have a small disclaimer which proclaims that it if for track use only. Even the up-swept exhaust option from RE clearly says it is for off-road use only, and that is also the reason why the service center will hand the owner the original silencer if he opts for the louder up-swept exhaust fitment.

Sorry you are mistaken. There are a few options from Akrapovic / TBR etc which are Euro 4 approved for street use. However the issue in India is seperate - ideally any change in vehicle has to be endorsed by RTO and good luck getting it done.

BTW - some versions of bikes sold in India come with these exhausts from factory & are fully street legal. Eg. Multistrada Pikes Peak (comes with Termignoni), Triumph Tiger 1200 (comes with Arrow), Panigale V4 Speciale (comes with Akrapovic).

[saurabh2711]

Though I see that many innocent riders may also be "harassed" - my sympathies with them. But there are many who are actual nuisance on the roads, specially the one's who have those silencers which creates blasts at some intervals. I see/hear a fleet every night around my house racing & blasting regularly. Really wished such cops were around my home & do the same to them.

What I conclude is any modification to the vehicle is not allowed. It has to stay in the stock condition as delivered from showroom & as endorsed in RC.
So correct me if I am wrong, if the performance enhancers are factory fitted they are street legal (Ex: as mentioned by ethanhunt123 - **Multistrada Pikes Peak (comes with Termignoni), **). However the owner of any vehicle is not allowed to do any alteration to the vehicle without getting it approved on your RC.

What I heard of is, if CNG/LPG if company fitted &/or even aftermarket if endorsed on RC is legal. However, if fitted outside & not endorsed on RC the vehicle can be confiscated & "destroyed - specially in case of LPG" (confirmation required). In hindi they call it "RaajSaat". People from Bhopal can see ample number of such vehicle (along with others) rotting at Khajuri Sadak Police station.

So if that is the case, RE owners were lucky to lose only the silencer in-stead of complete bike.
I guess - Even upgrading your headlights to higher wattage is illegal.

[SJM1214]

Royal Enfield Bullet's modified silencers, vehicle speakers cause noise pollution: PIL in HC.

The thumping and backfiring sounds from Royal Enfield Bullet's modified silencers and loud music from vehicular speakers pose a health risk to the people, especially minors, senior citizens and those with medical conditions, apart from contributing to noise pollution, a PIL in the Delhi High Court claimed on Tuesday.

A bench of Chief Justice Rajendra Menon and Justice V K Rao issued notices to the Centre, Delhi government, police and the pollution controlling authorities and sought their responses to the plea which has urged the court to order a ban on manufacture, sale and use of various kinds of pressure horns, speakers and modified silencers, including those on Royal Enfield Bullet bikes, in the national capital.

The order came on the petition moved by an NGO, Justice for Rights Foundation, and a law student Prateek Sharma claiming that loud sound producing equipment, such as pressure horns, woofers and modified silencers on vehicles, cause health problems including stress, headache, fatigue, insomnia, irritability, blood pressure variations, cardiac disease and digestive disorders.

The plea, filed through advocate Harpreet Singh Hora, has contended that the vehicular noise pollution menace was rampant in areas like North Campus here, specifically Malka Ganj, Hudson Lane, Vijay Nagar, Gupta Colony, Chhatra Marg and other areas in and around the Delhi University (DU).

It has sought urgent orders from the court to direct removal of such loud sound producing equipment from vehicles plying in these areas, as during the DU students union elections there is widespread use of cars and bikes fitted with such devices.

The petitioners have alleged that intervention of the courts was necessary "due to the apathy and inaction of the authorities" who are not making efforts to remove such hazardous sound producing equipment from vehicles.

"The said equipment is manufactured, sold and purchased unregulated and unchecked in the market and serve no purpose but to create nuisance and annoyance," the plea stated.

News Source: https://www.business-standard.com/ar...1100864_1.html

[fiestarry]

I wish the RTOs all over the country get serious about eradicating this menace. Too many fools and their rides are causing a nuisance with modded exhausts. RE is the stand out case with maximum offenders. Quiet neighborhoods are being violated by the racket that these bikes cause at higher revvs.