[abhipuri]

Originally Posted by AutoIndian

thought the disc brakes were from Bybre, may be I was wrong.

Front is bybre and near is nissin

Originally Posted by AutoIndian

Since you have been riding the Unicorn for that last 10 years, would like to know from you, apart from the FZ being a higher capacity engine and obvious difference in power & torque figures,

Honda engine's and gearbox smoothness is unparalleled and i still miss that butter smooth gearbox. Fz more than makes up for it with the great torque bang in the mid range.

Slightly o.t. Absolutely hate that pathetic switch gear Honda uses in all bikes except unircorn from humble cd 100/yuga right up to bikes costing close to 1 lac.

[MadRasTan4986]

Originally Posted by AutoIndian

1. Are the rear brakes that bad? Brakes getting eaten up in just 3K kms?

No. Not at all. They're absolutely fine. I have had no issues with mine so far. Regarding the brake pads getting worn off early, so far my bike has done 2700 kms, no brake fade or signs of wear. Will have a clearer picture during the second service, but so far no issues.

Originally Posted by AutoIndian

2. Are the servicing costs so high (when compared to other bikes in the same category, e.g. RTR 200 or a CBR250R)?

I would say on par. My first "free service" cost me around ₹1200. Mostly consumables like oil filter, oil change, chain lube.

Originally Posted by AutoIndian

3. Not having the 6th gear, is it a real disadvantage?

Hmm. Sometimes on the Highway rides yes. But the 5 speed gear box ratios are well spread out and so is the torque curve. I have tested the flexibility of the 5th gear and picked it up from below 50 kmph without any judders and pushed it all the way to an indicated 130kmph. No problem. 80kmph in one gear

Originally Posted by AutoIndian

4. Other than not being able to attach saddle bags what are the other disadvantages of a plastic fuel tank?

You have tank bags that can attach to the plastic fuel tanks, but not the same way as the magnetic ones do. Via Terra has some really nice tank bags for bikes with plastic fuel tanks. Only issue I can see with plastic fuel tanks is that if the panels aren't fit well then you will face vibes and unecessary movements and shakes from the tank. But this is a Yamaha and it's built well and to last. Others can enlighten us more on the plastic vs metal fuel tank debate.

[AutoIndian]

Originally Posted by MadRasTan4986

No. Not at all. They're absolutely fine. I have had no issues with mine so far.

Thank you MadRasTan4986 for your feedback. That clarifies a lot of doubts. After seeing the long term ownership video I had some apprehensions, but comments from you and abhipuri has helped me overcome those apprehensions .

On a side note I had put a query on Yamaha India website that when can I expect the FZ25 to come equipped with ABS. Below is the reply that I revceived, which is not very encouraging

[CrAzY dRiVeR]

Originally Posted by AutoIndian

On a side note I had put a query on Yamaha India website that when can I expect the FZ25 to come equipped with ABS. Below is the reply that I revceived, which is not very encouraging

They had clarified it earlier during the press launch of Fazer 25 -

Speaking to journalists at the launch of the new Yamaha Fazer 25, India Yamaha Motor Senior Vice President - Sales and Marketing, Roy Kurian said that the Fazer 25 has adequate brakes and ABS isn't really required on the bike. To a question, when Yamaha will introduce ABS in its models, Kurian responded, saying that ABS on motorcycles will become mandatory by 2019 anyway, and that is when Yamaha will introduce ABS across its model range.

https://auto.ndtv.com/news/yamaha-tw...y-2018-1740489

Looks like the next generation FZ25 is also getting ready for a March 2019 launch (Codename 03A). Probably it would be this bike that gets ABS and not the current version.

https://indianautosblog.com/2017/11/...ch-2019-289602

[337699gsd]

Originally Posted by AutoIndian

I was going through this long term ownership video of the FZ25 on Youtube. Few things caught my attention, especially the cons. Want to get these validated through the FZ25 owners over here.

Are the rear brakes that bad? Brakes getting eaten up in just 3K kms?

I would like to shed some light on rear break pad issue. Yamaha and lot other people are blaming users for keeping their foot on the pedal thus damaging the pads. Though this is true but not entirely. Is it that only FZ-25 owners have that habit?

Well, Yamaha through its mail to the dealers have instructed them to lower the rear break pedal by some Xcm to avoid the users' tap on that pedal. Why do you think Yamaha did this? Because it was set upward in the first place thus causing the users' tap on the pedal, unknowingly.

A lot of riders have complained about the early wear. Mine gave up at around 6000 Km. But rest assured, Yamaha have taken care of this now.

Worn out pads -

[CrAzY dRiVeR]

FZ25 ABS launched at 1.33 lakhs ex-showroom Delhi.

Source - News 18 Auto

[cormodore]

I am on the lookout for city bike with occasional touring (once in three months), and shortlisted FZ25. Yamaha has unveiled BS6 version of the FZ25 with a tentative launch in the month of April 2020.

The power figures remain more or less the same and the new BS6 version has the following changes over the BS4 version.

1. Negative display instrument cluster (hopefully its the same as MT 15)
2. Side stand engine cut off
3. New Head lamp similar to MT 15(Hopefully this is a better one compared to the current head light, which is a draw back of the current version)
4. Belly pan and some mild changes to the body panels.

Yamaha also launched a FZS version in white, green colors, with a small visor and fake knuckle guards, which I felt is bit over done.

I am getting a 7K discount on the OTR price on the BS4 Version. I have asked for a 12K discount and dealer is not willing to budge on the same.

With no visibility on the BS6 pricing for another three months, I will wait for a couple of weeks more and try to squeeze in some more discount on the BS4 version and will take the plunge into riding once again.


Link

Yamaha FZ25 -- BS6 Version



Yamaha FZS25 -- BS6 Version



Picture credits: Rushlane.com

[Sheel]

I have done some 11,000 kms with my FZ-25. I didn't ride in entire 2019.

I said before, I am saying this again. It is one of the, if not the most average bike on sale in India by Yamaha.

There is no top end, headlamp illumination is poor, chassis composure isn't there. All this is further worsened by the FE figures, you barely get 25 kmpl.

Bike is okay if you are trying to commute, but isn't fun when you try to have fun, especially if riding is leisure for you.

I hate to say this, but this is one of the worst bike I got from Yamaha, the R15 is still my favorite bike from Yamaha [I had the V1, Indonesian made].

[bf1983]

Originally Posted by Sheel

I hate to say this, but this is one of the worst bike I go from Yamaha, the R15 is still my favorite bike from Yamaha [I had the V1, Indonesian made].

This bike is definitely not for enthusiasts like an R15 but the Fz25 is a much easier to ride bike and yes it's top end isn't great but it should beat an R15 in a 0-100 dash so it's not exactly slow. In its price segment I don't think you can find anything that can beat it in a 0-100 dash unless you spend more.

[Sheel]

Originally Posted by bf1983

This bike is definitely not for enthusiasts like an R15 but the Fz25 is a much easier to ride bike and yes it's top end isn't great but it should beat an R15 in a 0-100 dash so it's not exactly slow. In its price segment I don't think you can find anything that can beat it in a 0-100 dash unless you spend more.

Bike is easier to ride? Depends. It is neither at home on open highways nor at switch-backs or B-roads or hills, yes, it is a good commuter and should be home inside a city.

0 - 100 is okay, but that is it.

The gearing is horrible, 1st gear is still okay [~48 kmph], but 2nd is only good till 72 kmph, now this is where I face the biggest issue.

On almost all hills or while ascending hills [less of an issue while descending] I hit the limiter and have to wait [for like 3-5 secs] as I have to brake for a corner, I can't up-shift unless there is a wee bit longer stretch. As if I shift to 3rd, I have to be back to 2nd or 1st, this simply robs away the riding pleasure.

[jaganm]

The main criticism of the bike is with the engine and gearbox. However, it has some really good points, excellent seat that can support you all day, composed handling on the highway at near 3 digit speeds, good touring capability etc

[ashwinprakas]

Originally Posted by cormodore

I am on the lookout for city bike with occasional touring (once in three months), and shortlisted FZ25.

It's the perfect street bike, in final gear does about 90kmph at peak torque and 120kmph at peak power RPM's, which granted is not impressive compared to even the likes of the decade old P220, but the way it gets to those speeds is commendable considering the gearing alone.

With a 15T at front and a 46T at the rear the ratio lands at a near perfect 3, which is balanced and anything less would be overgearing and anything more would be undergearing.

Cheers,
A.P.

[cormodore]

Originally Posted by bf1983

This bike is definitely not for enthusiasts like an R15 but the Fz25 is a much easier to ride bike and yes it's top end isn't great but it should beat an R15 in a 0-100 dash so it's not exactly slow. In its price segment I don't think you can find anything that can beat it in a 0-100 dash unless you spend more.

Originally Posted by Sheel

Bike is easier to ride? Depends. It is neither at home on open highways nor at switch-backs or B-roads or hills, yes, it is a good commuter and should be home inside a city.

0 - 100 is okay, but that is it.

The gearing is horrible, 1st gear is still okay [~48 kmph], but 2nd is only good till 72 kmph, now this is where I face the biggest issue.

On almost all hills or while ascending hills [less of an issue while descending] I hit the limiter and have to wait [for like 3-5 secs] as I have to brake for a corner, I can't up-shift unless there is a wee bit longer stretch. As if I shift to 3rd, I have to back to 2nd or 1st, this simply robs away the riding pleasure.

Originally Posted by jaganm

The main criticism of the bike is with the engine and gearbox. However, it has some really good points, excellent seat that can support you all day, composed handling on the highway at near 3 digit speeds, good touring capability etc

Originally Posted by ashwinprakas

It's the perfect street bike, in final gear does about 90kmph at peak torque and 120kmph at peak power RPM's, which granted is not impressive compared to even the likes of the decade old P220, but the way it gets to those speeds is commendable considering the gearing alone.

With a 15T at front and a 46T at the rear the ratio lands at a near perfect 3, which is balanced and anything less would be overgearing and anything more would be undergearing.

Thank you for all your inputs. I basically wanted a good city bike in the 1-2 lac range with good pillion support. Touring would be once in three or six months which wont be beyond 300KM to 400KM, and priority being the Pillion comfort.

Test drove the Xpulse, FZ25, and Dominar in the price range. R15 and MT015 were ruled out because of the very short pillion seat and my wife was not comfortable sitting on those bikes.

Xpulse was a bit small and although my wife was okay with the pillion seat, I felt the seat was narrow.

Dominar was good both in terms of pillion as well as driver seat, but was on a heavier side and was beyond my set budget with no discounts what so ever.

FZ25 was in the middle ground between the shortlisted bikes, and wife felt good on the pillion seat, and the dealer was offering discounts. I will not go beyond 90-100 KMPH, so top speed does not matter to me. I felt very comfortable in the city. On the mileage front, I do not have any insight, and I am going with dealer numbers @ 40KMPL which is fine with me.

Anyways, I will wait for pricing of BS6 Version and will take the plunge.

[ashwinprakas]

Originally Posted by cormodore

On the mileage front, I do not have any insight, and I am going with dealer numbers @ 40KMPL which is fine with me.

Make that 30kmpl with a +/-5kmpl buffer.

Cheers,
A.P.

[bf1983]

I do not have any insight, and I am going with dealer numbers @ 40KMPL which is fine with me.

Anyways, I will wait for pricing of BS6 Version and will take the plunge.

40 kmpl is highly optimistic. My friend used to get around 30-34 kpl.

Also do check out Suzuki GF if you haven't already.