[rishi_kapoor]

Nudging the thread. Lot of useful information especially from Nasirkaka. I am not into bikes but picked up a Continental GT few years ago and then never really rode it (2200 Kms in 4+ years). Mainly because I am not a fan of heavy bikes so quickly lost interest.

A week ago, BMW sent me a G310GS and I am almost in love with the bike! Taken it to small trails, mud and of course road and am loving the sheer lightness and agility of the bike. Obviously I have put my GT for sale (BHP classifieds ) and now contemplating picking up 310GS, to add to drama, discounts are also amazing.

Here’s my dilemma, KTM launched 390ADV at a decent price point and now I am not able to decide (since KTM is not available for test ride). Being the owner of 3 BMWs my natural inclination is to go for 310GS (even my bicycle is BMW M cruise!). Heard rumours that 310GS is being discontinued from sale in India and also that a 400 (+)cc GS may be launched shortly, now this adds to my confusion.

Any advice and POVs will help. Thanks in advance.

[Porschefire]

Originally Posted by rishi_kapoor

Nudging the thread. Lot of useful information especially from Nasirkaka. I am not into bikes but picked up a Continental GT few years ago and then never really rode it (2200 Kms in 4+ years). Mainly because I am not a fan of heavy bikes so quickly lost interest.

A week ago, BMW sent me a G310GS and I am almost in love with the bike! Taken it to small trails, mud and of course road and am loving the sheer lightness and agility of the bike. Obviously I have put my GT for sale (BHP classifieds ) and now contemplating picking up 310GS, to add to drama, discounts are also amazing.

Here’s my dilemma, KTM launched 390ADV at a decent price point and now I am not able to decide (since KTM is not available for test ride). Being the owner of 3 BMWs my natural inclination is to go for 310GS (even my bicycle is BMW M cruise!). Heard rumours that 310GS is being discontinued from sale in India and also that a 400 (+)cc GS may be launched shortly, now this adds to my confusion.

Any advice and POVs will help. Thanks in advance.

As a pure novice when it comes to commenting on the bike itself, I shall refrain from it.

However, I've been hearing and reading a lot of negative feedback on BMW Motorrad India and it's dealers on the treatment of its customers and the many issues on their bikes. The 310GS may be a good bike but the question you have to ask yourself is if it's worth investing your time and money on the brand.

You have mentioned that you own 3 BMWs and from your signature, I can see they are all cars. Do not expect an easy ownership as BMW India.

[rishi_kapoor]

Originally Posted by Porschefire

As a pure novice when it comes to commenting on the bike itself, I shall refrain from it.

However, I've been hearing and reading a lot of negative feedback on BMW Motorrad India and it's dealers on the treatment of its customers and the many issues on their bikes. The 310GS may be a good bike but the question you have to ask yourself is if it's worth investing your time and money on the brand.

You have mentioned that you own 3 BMWs and from your signature, I can see they are all cars. Do not expect an easy ownership as BMW India.

Thanks. I am a happy BMW customer since last 10 years (and yes there have been challenges too). I am assuming that Motorrad will be similar specially since the brand is same. I may be wrong though since I am yet to experience it. As I said, I like the bike but still not completely tilted to buying decision.

[nasirkaka]

Here’s my dilemma, KTM launched 390ADV at a decent price point and now I am not able to decide (since KTM is not available for test ride). Being the owner of 3 BMWs my natural inclination is to go for 310GS (even my bicycle is BMW M cruise!). Heard rumours that 310GS is being discontinued from sale in India and also that a 400 (+)cc GS may be launched shortly, now this adds to my confusion.

Ok, now that 390 Adv is out and we have all been watching its launch videos and test rides by journalist and their product reviews, both the bikes (310 gs and 390 adv) are good in their own way, its just us individuals who have to decide which suits the requirement better. I feel they both have their respective customer base and will continue to survive together in international market.

Engine: 390 ADV -Its all about power and more power, enjoyed at the right rpm and if not, the engine starts to show its displeasure. Requires frequent gear shifts and has strong engine breaking which some enjoy, some dont, especially in slow moving city traffic where it induces too many nods. Gun the engine, and its one of the most rev happy big single around. 310GS-Engine is not as rev happy, and more docile. power delivery is pretty basic and at higher revs there is good amount of vibes at tank and footpeg. comparatively less engine breaking force, and does not require to change gears frequently.

suspension: 390 adv seems to have stiff suspension ( i sat on the bike) in comparison to soft suspension of the GS, which you have already sampled. Means 390 adv will be more precise and will handle better whereas 310 may be more supple and comfortable at lesser speeds.
Chassis: 390adv is inspired from their 450 ralley, and KTM is known for their offroad pedigree. Means the chassis would be great. I have used 310gs for 25k kms and mostly on bad roads and its been holding very well. So full marks there too.

Looks: Both brands follow a style and their entry level ADV bikes stay true to their elder siblings. 390 ADV is on the lines of 790 and above, and the design language and colours appeal to younger crowd. 310GS follows the bigger gs design language and had a more understated looks and would appeal to 30+ age. Aesthetics being personal, both bikes appeal in their own way. i wold have loved to see a beak on the 390 adv.

Equipment: KTM 390 adv is loaded with features such as RBW, TFT, TC, quick shifter, etc which is very very good for the price. More electronics do bring up more chances of failure points too but. 310Gs is pretty basic but has adequate information and features for general requirement .One does miss features like slipper clutch, quick shifter, OEM USB socket, etc.


If i was in market and if i had to choose between the two, i would have most likely gone with the KTM 390 adventure, mainly for that mad power and greater value for money. Also for the wider service network and cost effective spares and ease of parts availability. The 310GS is highly over priced too, if we remove the current discounts. But i already have the 310GS and i am very happy with it. I would have loved if it has a bit more power and a bit more rev happy and refined engine, but in its present form too, its not like bad. I love that it does not have strong engine braking. I love that i can ride at 18kmph in 2nd gear in slow moving traffic without lugging. I love the supple suspension. I love the built quality. I love how it looks. Barring the unpleasant dealer and service experiences, i am very happy with the bike. I dont really see a strong reason for going with 390 adv, as power is the main big draw there, rest of the features i can easily live without. But thats me and my requirements, and it would be different in your case. So do try and visualize your usage scenario and take a call on which bike fits the bill better.

[nasirkaka]

Last weekend, we went riding towards Chintamani and tried some trails in that region. The ride was not meant to involve off-roading but we saw some inviting trails and went for it, which ended up being much challenging then we thought it to be. I also had the top box which was a big liability incase of a topple. Somehow made through it and in hindsight it was a day well spent. Sharing some pics from the ride.

[Archie_27]

Hey guys, I have been looking for a touring friendly motorcycle for some time now and wanted to upgrade from my current CBR 150R (My Veronica). I was getting a good deal on the GS so after acknowledging and overlooking its shortcomings, I booked the G 310 GS in Red color yesterday itself. Sharing some pics here of my Unit (taken by the salesman).

Also, are there any specific points to look for before taking the delivery apart from the Team-BHP PDI checklist?

[Red Liner]

Congratulations. at that price, the bike is a veritable steal! Here is a BMW G310 GS on a trail.

https://youtu.be/xWH1FYkJ_PY

[CrAzY dRiVeR]

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[BANDHAV]

I recently rode one, this is one tall motorcycle, even with my 6 feet height, I was not able to flat foot. The owner is 5 feet something, I have no idea how he is going to ride it around.

[ani_meher]

Originally Posted by BANDHAV

I recently rode one, this is one tall motorcycle, even with my 6 feet height, I was not able to flat foot. The owner is 5 feet something, I have no idea how he is going to ride it around.

I can easily flatfoot it with my height of 5'8". Wonder how a 6' person couldn't flat foot it. It depends more on inseam than height.

[Urban_Nomad]

Originally Posted by BANDHAV

I recently rode one, this is one tall motorcycle, even with my 6 feet height, I was not able to flat foot. The owner is 5 feet something, I have no idea how he is going to ride it around.

You MUST measure your height again. Either you aren’t a 6 footer or you rode the wrong bike

[BANDHAV]

Let me see if I can get another go on this.

I am quite heavy even for my height, 130+ kg. Could my fat laden frame be a reason for I feeling the same?

[Red Liner]

Originally Posted by BANDHAV

Let me see if I can get another go on this.

I am quite heavy even for my height, 130+ kg. Could my fat laden frame be a reason for I feeling the same?

That rear suspension is as soft as a baby’s bottom. It sags quite a bit if the weight is thrown on it. I have a feeling like the others that you are inseam compromised. Sometimes if your thighs are too big, you might have issues with bringing your legs inwards towards the pegs and the road under.

[ast.ggn]

Originally Posted by BANDHAV

I am quite heavy even for my height, 130+ kg

Originally Posted by Red Liner

I have a feeling like the others that you are inseam compromised. Sometimes if your thighs are too big, you might have issues with bringing your legs inwards towards the pegs and the road under.

Yup, definitely the reasons covered above. I am 6' and could do lot more than just flat foot. For reference, a picture below from my trip last year:

[ani_meher]

Users of G310GS: Is the stock windscreen enough? Or do we need additional windscreen? I think the squarish type windscreen sold by many is bit too tall. Do you see through the windscreen like a car, or is it below your eye level while normal riding?