ARTICLE: Synthetic oil vs Mineral oil

Swifty2008 · 21st November 2008, 10:31

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Originally Posted by zerocritical

1. Shell helix Ultra is fully compatible with Santro. Go for 15w50.
2. It is recomended that engine is flushed while switching from mineral oil to Synthetic oil.

Pls refer to earlier posts to get more details on Synthetic oil.

I have a Swift Petrol. Can I use Shell Helix Ultra from Swift aswell? How much is the cost?

zerocritical · 21st November 2008, 10:46

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Originally Posted by Swifty2008

I have a Swift Petrol. Can I use Shell Helix Ultra from Swift aswell? How much is the cost?

Yes, I am personally using Shell Helix Ultra in my Swift Petrol. Same Grade - 15w50 can be used.
It cost me around 2700 for 4ltrs when i purchased. But now I guess the price is around 3500 for 4ltrs.

vikram_d · 21st November 2008, 10:52

Yes you can use shell ultra helix for your swift. Costs 700 - 800 per litre.

Shakensoul · 21st November 2008, 10:58

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Originally Posted by gpa

Am planning to go for Shell Helix Ultra.. is this compatible for the Santro? Which grade should I go for? (earlier, I wanted to switch to Mobil 1, but decided I'd use that for my Alto)
The engine will be decarbonized as a routine process that I follow every 20,000 kms. Should the engine also be flushed prior to the switch to the synthetic oil?
Any other inputs for me that I should bear in mind while making the switch to synthetic?

Thanks in advance,

gpa

Yes. Shell Helix Ultra in 5W40.
Yes
Advisable to keep using synthetic going forward.

Quote:

Originally Posted by zerocritical

1. Shell helix Ultra is fully compatible with Santro. Go for 15w50.

Helix Ultra comes in 5W40, Helix Super is 15W40 which is not synthetic.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Swifty2008

I have a Swift Petrol. Can I use Shell Helix Ultra from Swift aswell? How much is the cost?

Yes, it can be used in all petrol and diesel cars.

Shell in India - Shell Helix Products

nishantgandhi · 21st November 2008, 11:38

A quick question - Does Mobil manufacture mineral oils as well? I could not find on their website.

Shakensoul · 21st November 2008, 11:45

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Originally Posted by nishantgandhi

A quick question - Does Mobil manufacture mineral oils as well? I could not find on their website.

Yes, here is the range

Mobil Products

nishantgandhi · 21st November 2008, 11:59

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Originally Posted by Shakensoul

Yes, here is the range

Mobil Products

That was quick!

I think there is a communication gap between me and my mechanic. I had asked him to put Mobil1 5W-50 (fully synthetic) which, AFAIK, retails for about Rs 650+ per ltr (i.e. approx. 3k for 3.3 ltr+flush). However, he told me today morning that he has put Mobil xx-xx ( wasn't sure of the grade) but at a total cost of around Rs 800+. Hence I presume he has put mineral oil and not fully synthetic. What adds to the confusion is that I could not find 5W-50 grade in Mobil's mineral (convention) oil product range.

Will check in evening when I collect the car.

zerocritical · 21st November 2008, 12:02

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Originally Posted by Shakensoul

Helix Ultra comes in 5W40, Helix Super is 15W40 which is not synthetic.

Shell Helix Ultra come in 15w50 Grade as well.. Will post the pic of my oil can soon..

Shakensoul · 21st November 2008, 12:20

AFAIK, all mineral oil grades start with 10W40, 15W40, 15W50, etc..

Only synthetic come in 5W40 or 5W50.

nitrous · 21st November 2008, 15:55

Shell Helix Ultra used to come as a 15W50.
Its now been replaced with 5W40.
@zerocritical: What's the mfg date on your can?

zerocritical · 21st November 2008, 16:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by nitrous

Shell Helix Ultra used to come as a 15W50.
Its now been replaced with 5W40.
@zerocritical: What's the mfg date on your can?

its some where in mid 2007 I guess.. will check and confirm the date

zerocritical · 22nd November 2008, 00:01

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Originally Posted by Shakensoul

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Helix Ultra comes in 5W40, Helix Super is 15W40 which is not synthetic.

Here's the pic of Shell Helix ultra Grade 15w50, very much purchased in Bangalore.

zerocritical · 23rd November 2008, 22:27

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Originally Posted by nitrous

@zerocritical: What's the mfg date on your can?

Its jan of 2007. by the way, no reply for my previous question yet. Does anyone have any idea if synthetic oil has any expiry/best before date? Nothing is mentioned in the can.

vikram_d · 23rd November 2008, 23:27

If it has an expiry date then it will be mentioned on the can.

adityamunshi · 30th November 2008, 14:26

Castrol GTX diesel isnt available anywhere, Im only getting GTD.

Saw Mobil Delvac MX 5l for 1170/- Isnt that a bit overpriced ?

Now searching for Chevron Delo 400, where can i get dealer addresses ?

21st November 2008, 10:52	#1248
vikram_d Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 2,427 Thanked: 1,187 Times	Yes you can use shell ultra helix for your swift. Costs 700 - 800 per litre.
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21st November 2008, 11:38	#1250
nishantgandhi Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Mumbai Posts: 1,223 Thanked: 156 Times	A quick question - Does Mobil manufacture mineral oils as well? I could not find on their website.
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21st November 2008, 12:20	#1254
Shakensoul BHPian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: AS01 Posts: 498 Thanked: 241 Times View My Garage	AFAIK, all mineral oil grades start with 10W40, 15W40, 15W50, etc.. Only synthetic come in 5W40 or 5W50.
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21st November 2008, 15:55	#1255
nitrous Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2004 Location: UAE/Lon/Madras Posts: 6,965 Thanked: 332 Times View My Garage	Shell Helix Ultra used to come as a 15W50. Its now been replaced with 5W40. @zerocritical: What's the mfg date on your can?
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23rd November 2008, 23:27	#1259
vikram_d Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 2,427 Thanked: 1,187 Times	If it has an expiry date then it will be mentioned on the can.
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30th November 2008, 14:26	#1260
adityamunshi BHPian Join Date: May 2007 Location: Baroda Posts: 771 Thanked: 6 Times	Castrol GTX diesel isnt available anywhere, Im only getting GTD. Saw Mobil Delvac MX 5l for 1170/- Isnt that a bit overpriced ? Now searching for Chevron Delo 400, where can i get dealer addresses ?
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