ARTICLE: Synthetic oil vs Mineral oil

nitrous · 15th August 2007, 21:28

10,000 kms is more than enough.

gr8guzzler · 15th August 2007, 21:49

Today in the Car & Bike show on CNBC, there was a query from a customer who wanted to know how good is synthetic oil for his Scorpio and will it help smoothen the engine. Hormazd's response was " Synthetic oil is only for high tech engines and not suitable for a basic UV engine of scorpio ".

How true is this?

tsk1979 · 15th August 2007, 22:33

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Originally Posted by gr8guzzler

Today in the Car & Bike show on CNBC, there was a query from a customer who wanted to know how good is synthetic oil for his Scorpio and will it help smoothen the engine. Hormazd's response was " Synthetic oil is only for high tech engines and not suitable for a basic UV engine of scorpio ".

How true is this?

Pure BS.
A better engine oil with better lubricating properties will be better for any engine. Of course there are factors like detergent content etc., etc.,
Also if the engine overheats, the ordinary mineral oil will be cooked into water viscosity , wherein the synthetic oil is more heat resistant.
Looks like mobil needs to buy more adverts

toiingg · 15th August 2007, 22:53

My 99 OHC has run 92k kms, currently its running on Castrol Magnatec and i change the oil every 3500kms. I want to change to Synthetic but im vary of flushing the engine as quite a few guys have faced problems when flushing well run engines.
Can i change the oil type without flushing ? What is the worst that could happen.

tsk1979 · 15th August 2007, 23:06

You don't need to flush. In old engines flushing could dislodge deposits which are hardened and act as "plugs". So you may get leaky seals.
So just shift to synthetic.
Mixing maybe 300ml of old mineral oil with 4L of synthetic wont rob you of benefits.
Just change the oil after 5000kms the first time, and after that you can stretch to 10-12000kms.

Jaggu · 15th August 2007, 23:12

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Originally Posted by toiingg

My 99 OHC has run 92k kms, currently its running on Castrol Magnatec and i change the oil every 3500kms. I want to change to Synthetic but im vary of flushing the engine as quite a few guys have faced problems when flushing well run engines.
Can i change the oil type without flushing ? What is the worst that could happen.

just get some regular flushing oil NOT flush (no OWS etc) run at idle or lil higher for 10 mts, replace oil filter and put in magnatec afresh, thats all is required.

Using engine flush might be a bad idea and do you really wanna put so much of money (read sysnth oil) on 93 k kms engine?? wont make so much of difference and risks are higher.

alankarm@sancha · 17th August 2007, 06:50

Is Synthetic Oil recommended for CIVIC MT. If yes which one and what grade for Rajasthan. Lowest temperatures upto 2 degrees at minimum and 48-50 degree at max. What benefit can I expect in normal driving?

nitrous · 17th August 2007, 12:02

5W50 Mobil1 for the Civic.

paras211 · 18th August 2007, 02:56

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Synthetic Oil recommended for CIVIC MT. If yes which one and what grade for Rajasthan. Lowest temperatures upto 2 degrees at minimum and 48-50 degree at max. What benefit can I expect in normal driving?

maybe u can use different grades for summer and winter. if you can schedule your oil changes

1self · 18th August 2007, 09:17

Hey Guys!

Just a simple question for my elantra petrol...done 8500 kms...when i asked the service centre to change to synthetic (2nd free service), they said that they have instead added an additive...what could this be? also should i change over to synthetic now..? i drive at rather high speeds. think my engine is well used by now...what do you chaps suggest?

Akshay1234 · 18th August 2007, 10:25

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Originally Posted by 1self

Hey Guys!

Just a simple question for my elantra petrol...done 8500 kms...when i asked the service centre to change to synthetic (2nd free service), they said that they have instead added an additive...what could this be? also should i change over to synthetic now..? i drive at rather high speeds. think my engine is well used by now...what do you chaps suggest?

8500kms should be fine to add synthetic.

DieselFan · 18th August 2007, 12:53

Engine Flushing using flushing oil is not necessary when changing from Mineral oil to Synthetics. Please see the link -
Car Bibles : The Engine Oil Bible

Please do not waste your money and time in flushing engine.

You may also note in the above site that one can switch from Synthetic to Mineral and vise versa whenever one feels so. contrary to earlier concepts.

BUSA · 18th August 2007, 15:34

What oil for Swift DDIS? Yes the car is enhanced for performance with petes on stage 1 and soon going on to stage 2. Should 10,000kms be fine for the shift?

nitrous · 18th August 2007, 18:55

I would suggest U to stick with Maruti's Mobil engine oil.
Mobil1 synthetic which is available here is just CF-4 rated and Swift D demands higher.Something like CG or CH, i believe.

swathyd · 18th August 2007, 19:11

castrol has CH and even CI rated oils for diesel engines. In tvpm CH 1 costs just rs 921.

15th August 2007, 21:28	#511
nitrous Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2004 Location: UAE/Lon/Madras Posts: 6,965 Thanked: 329 Times View My Garage	10,000 kms is more than enough.
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15th August 2007, 21:49	#512
gr8guzzler BHPian Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Navi Mumbai Posts: 653 Thanked: 87 Times View My Garage	Today in the Car & Bike show on CNBC, there was a query from a customer who wanted to know how good is synthetic oil for his Scorpio and will it help smoothen the engine. Hormazd's response was " Synthetic oil is only for high tech engines and not suitable for a basic UV engine of scorpio ". How true is this?
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15th August 2007, 22:53	#514
toiingg BHPian Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Calcutta Posts: 641 Thanked: 305 Times	My 99 OHC has run 92k kms, currently its running on Castrol Magnatec and i change the oil every 3500kms. I want to change to Synthetic but im vary of flushing the engine as quite a few guys have faced problems when flushing well run engines. Can i change the oil type without flushing ? What is the worst that could happen.
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15th August 2007, 23:06	#515
tsk1979 Team-BHP Support Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 23,729 Thanked: 23,186 Times View My Garage	You don't need to flush. In old engines flushing could dislodge deposits which are hardened and act as "plugs". So you may get leaky seals. So just shift to synthetic. Mixing maybe 300ml of old mineral oil with 4L of synthetic wont rob you of benefits. Just change the oil after 5000kms the first time, and after that you can stretch to 10-12000kms.
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17th August 2007, 06:50	#517
alankarm@sancha BHPian Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Ajmer / Mumbai Posts: 210 Thanked: 3 Times	Is Synthetic Oil recommended for CIVIC MT. If yes which one and what grade for Rajasthan. Lowest temperatures upto 2 degrees at minimum and 48-50 degree at max. What benefit can I expect in normal driving? Last edited by alankarm@sancha : 17th August 2007 at 06:56.
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17th August 2007, 12:02	#518
nitrous Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2004 Location: UAE/Lon/Madras Posts: 6,965 Thanked: 329 Times View My Garage	5W50 Mobil1 for the Civic.
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18th August 2007, 09:17	#520
1self BHPian Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Pune Posts: 629 Thanked: 333 Times View My Garage	Hey Guys! Just a simple question for my elantra petrol...done 8500 kms...when i asked the service centre to change to synthetic (2nd free service), they said that they have instead added an additive...what could this be? also should i change over to synthetic now..? i drive at rather high speeds. think my engine is well used by now...what do you chaps suggest?
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18th August 2007, 12:53	#522
DieselFan Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,584 Thanked: 259 Times	Engine Flushing using flushing oil is not necessary when changing from Mineral oil to Synthetics. Please see the link - Car Bibles : The Engine Oil Bible Please do not waste your money and time in flushing engine. You may also note in the above site that one can switch from Synthetic to Mineral and vise versa whenever one feels so. contrary to earlier concepts.
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18th August 2007, 15:34	#523
BUSA Senior - BHPian Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Bombay Posts: 5,130 Thanked: 21 Times View My Garage	What oil for Swift DDIS? Yes the car is enhanced for performance with petes on stage 1 and soon going on to stage 2. Should 10,000kms be fine for the shift?
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18th August 2007, 18:55	#524
nitrous Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2004 Location: UAE/Lon/Madras Posts: 6,965 Thanked: 329 Times View My Garage	I would suggest U to stick with Maruti's Mobil engine oil. Mobil1 synthetic which is available here is just CF-4 rated and Swift D demands higher.Something like CG or CH, i believe.
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18th August 2007, 19:11	#525
swathyd BHPian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: thiruvananthapuram Posts: 774 Thanked: 26 Times	castrol has CH and even CI rated oils for diesel engines. In tvpm CH 1 costs just rs 921.
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