ARTICLE: Synthetic oil vs Mineral oil

gigy · 29th March 2007, 16:39

i bought 5w50 mobil1 supersyn new API SM

tadukuttan · 29th March 2007, 23:08

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Originally Posted by gigy

bought mobil 1 4 lts today for 2500. sticker price was 3700.

This whole Mobil 1 pricing business outside of Mumbai sounds like a freaking scam? And yeah, daylight/train/plane robbery etc.

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Originally Posted by moralfibre

Tadukuttan, Shell Helix Ultra 15W-50 is Rs. 2400/- for 4 liters in Pune. This should give you an approximate reference price. It should be definitely cheaper in Bombay.

More or less the same here. 660 for a liter it was at the shell gas station today.

Mugen_Power · 31st March 2007, 12:02

My innova clocked 28000 Kms and at 30000 Kms i want to switch to synthetic oil in innova.

I asked to toyota dealer he told me that they uses 7 litres 20W 40 mineral oil.

So which synthetic oil should i have to go for ?

Mobil1 ? 7 Litres ? Any Specific Grade ?

nitrous · 31st March 2007, 14:17

20W40 is the worst oil any engine can have.
Infact, i use 15W40 mineral oil in my Sumo.
If u have a petrol innova, use 5W50 grade. 8 litres will cost u around 5000 bucks.

Mugen_Power · 31st March 2007, 14:23

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Originally Posted by nitrous

If u have a petrol innova, use 5W50 grade. 8 litres will cost u around 5000 bucks.

Nitrous,

It is Diesel so which oil should i have to use ?

tadukuttan · 31st March 2007, 16:42

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Originally Posted by Mugen_Power

It is Diesel so which oil should i have to use ?

The Instruction Manual might have the required specs for Engine oil mentioned. For eg., my Elantra book specifies API CF4 and above, or ACEA B4 and above, and 15w-40. After tons of reading, and frustration, I finally figured that that best suitable one could be Mobil Delvac 1 5W-40. Unfortunately, was never able to source it, although the above link is from their India web site. Please try, and if you can figure where to get it, please let me know too. And GTO could possibly help, he is lucky to have a Mobil distributer for a cousin...

And right now running Mobil 1 5W-50 (powerfreak uses it in his Elantra CRDi, so figured no harm). Meets the ACEA and API specs, but different grade.

Another viable option would be Shell Helix Ultra 15w-50. Link for Shell - http://www.shelldubai.com/industrial/tds/helixultra.pdf

Mugen_Power · 1st April 2007, 15:15

In owner's manual they have mentioned that...

If you use SAE 10W-30 or a higher viscosity engine oil in extremely low temperatures, the engine may become difficult to start, so SAE 5W-30 engine oil is recommended.

So does Mobil1 has SAE 5W-30 Grade available in india ??

nik1982 · 3rd April 2007, 14:32

SAE 5W-30 is available in mumbai

Mugen_Power · 4th April 2007, 17:50

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Originally Posted by nik1982

SAE 5W-30 is available in mumbai

Mobile1 ?? If yes than Can you please give me the address and contact number ?

theMAG · 4th April 2007, 19:41

Update from me. Id earlier written to ExxonMobil India thru their website asking them abt the places of availability of Mobil 1 in BLR. They surprised me by their Bangalore office calling me and being very proactive in offering to deliver the oil to my house. But the caveat is they're quoting Rs. 3700 for 4 liters (Swift required some 3.6 lts) and a ridiculous 2% discount on that.

I was :

1. Pleasantly surprised that they actually called and offered their services including speaking to RNS

2. Not happy that they're quoting Rs 925/liter, being direct Exxon-Mobil - not any dealer/franchisee.

I'm now counting on Rudra's guidance in sourcing my Mobil1 here.

Vid6639 · 4th April 2007, 19:51

dude at Rs.925 per litre I'm not surprised they called you you for their services and even agreed on free home delivery. thats close to 300 bucks per litre more than the market prices.

theMAG · 4th April 2007, 20:12

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Originally Posted by vid6639

dude at Rs.925 per litre I'm not surprised they called you you for their services and even agreed on free home delivery. thats close to 300 bucks per litre more than the market prices.

I know. Thats why I havent purchased it yet - I got another call from them in the last 5 mins.

gigy · 5th April 2007, 09:41

sticker price is 3700, but if dealer gives it for 2500 without bill, why to call company

Vid6639 · 5th April 2007, 10:11

nitrous need your help. need Mobil1 for someone in chennai. Where do you get it in chennai. and whats the price?

it's for a santro xing. whats the grade of mobil1 available here in india. I believe theres only one, i think 5W50.

thanks mate.

moralfibre · 5th April 2007, 10:16

Vid, you also get 0W40 Mobil1 Synthetic. But I guess 5W50 is the right grade to opt for.

29th March 2007, 16:39	#166
gigy Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: mumbai Posts: 1,321 Thanked: 47 Times	i bought 5w50 mobil1 supersyn new API SM
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31st March 2007, 12:02	#168
Mugen_Power Senior - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Gujarat 03 Posts: 1,302 Thanked: 18 Times	My innova clocked 28000 Kms and at 30000 Kms i want to switch to synthetic oil in innova. I asked to toyota dealer he told me that they uses 7 litres 20W 40 mineral oil. So which synthetic oil should i have to go for ? Mobil1 ? 7 Litres ? Any Specific Grade ?
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31st March 2007, 14:17	#169
nitrous Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2004 Location: UAE/Lon/Madras Posts: 6,965 Thanked: 328 Times View My Garage	20W40 is the worst oil any engine can have. Infact, i use 15W40 mineral oil in my Sumo. If u have a petrol innova, use 5W50 grade. 8 litres will cost u around 5000 bucks.
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1st April 2007, 15:15	#172
Mugen_Power Senior - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Gujarat 03 Posts: 1,302 Thanked: 18 Times	In owner's manual they have mentioned that... If you use SAE 10W-30 or a higher viscosity engine oil in extremely low temperatures, the engine may become difficult to start, so SAE 5W-30 engine oil is recommended. So does Mobil1 has SAE 5W-30 Grade available in india ??
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3rd April 2007, 14:32	#173
nik1982 BHPian Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: MUMBAI Posts: 90 Thanked: 2 Times	SAE 5W-30 is available in mumbai
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4th April 2007, 19:41	#175
theMAG Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: May 2006 Location: Avon, CT Posts: 7,217 Thanked: 1,810 Times View My Garage	Update from me. Id earlier written to ExxonMobil India thru their website asking them abt the places of availability of Mobil 1 in BLR. They surprised me by their Bangalore office calling me and being very proactive in offering to deliver the oil to my house. But the caveat is they're quoting Rs. 3700 for 4 liters (Swift required some 3.6 lts) and a ridiculous 2% discount on that. I was : 1. Pleasantly surprised that they actually called and offered their services including speaking to RNS 2. Not happy that they're quoting Rs 925/liter, being direct Exxon-Mobil - not any dealer/franchisee. I'm now counting on Rudra's guidance in sourcing my Mobil1 here.
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4th April 2007, 19:51	#176
Vid6639 Team-BHP Support Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 17,746 Thanked: 43,568 Times View My Garage	dude at Rs.925 per litre I'm not surprised they called you you for their services and even agreed on free home delivery. thats close to 300 bucks per litre more than the market prices.
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5th April 2007, 09:41	#178
gigy Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: mumbai Posts: 1,321 Thanked: 47 Times	sticker price is 3700, but if dealer gives it for 2500 without bill, why to call company
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5th April 2007, 10:11	#179
Vid6639 Team-BHP Support Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 17,746 Thanked: 43,568 Times View My Garage	nitrous need your help. need Mobil1 for someone in chennai. Where do you get it in chennai. and whats the price? it's for a santro xing. whats the grade of mobil1 available here in india. I believe theres only one, i think 5W50. thanks mate.
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5th April 2007, 10:16	#180
moralfibre Team-BHP Support Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: MH-12 Posts: 8,470 Thanked: 14,051 Times	Vid, you also get 0W40 Mobil1 Synthetic. But I guess 5W50 is the right grade to opt for.
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