ARTICLE: Synthetic oil vs Mineral oil

srikant · 16th July 2009, 10:37

So which one can i use for the DDiS now? CI or CG? As far as i know, CI may not be a problem to use in CG rated. So can i change to Mobil Delvac 1 5W-40/API CI-4?

Eddy · 16th July 2009, 10:46

Yes, you can always go higher !

sgiitk · 16th July 2009, 11:59

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Originally Posted by mdesai_1981

hi guys ,
well i have e small query i'm right now in us and i'm getting castrol syntec 5W-40 API-SL ...

API-SL is normally a mineral oil and not a semi- or full-synth. These are API-SM. I have both Magnatec as well as Petronas mach5. Both as SM and API-SM.

mdesai_1981 · 16th July 2009, 15:50

thanx sgiitk,
thank you sir

shabahmad · 16th July 2009, 18:32

How good is Shell helix Super 15W-40? Is it a mineral oil or semisynthetic?
The sales person at shell pump is saying that this oil can be used around 12000KM inteasd of normal 10K.

I am thinking to use this oil for WagonR which is completing 20000 Kms. My use is 70% highway. I am also thinking to use engine oil additive from OWS with oil change. Please let me know is any other oil is suggested.

mdesai_1981 · 17th July 2009, 06:40

hi guys another idiotic question.
waht is the difference between MOBIL 1 OIL FILTERS and OEM OIL FILTERS?
does mobil 1 oil filter really help if one switches over to synthetic oil?

rb2399 · 17th July 2009, 06:54

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Originally Posted by shabahmad

How good is Shell helix Super 15W-40? Is it a mineral oil or semisynthetic?
The sales person at shell pump is saying that this oil can be used around 12000KM inteasd of normal 10K.

I am thinking to use this oil for WagonR which is completing 20000 Kms. My use is 70% highway. I am also thinking to use engine oil additive from OWS with oil change. Please let me know is any other oil is suggested.

Shell Helix super is a mineral oil which is API-SL/CF.Just check in your Wagon R's service manual what's the minimum required specs by Maruti.If API SL meets/exceeds the requirement,you can safely use it.

shabahmad · 17th July 2009, 10:18

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Originally Posted by rb2399

Shell Helix super is a mineral oil which is API-SL/CF.Just check in your Wagon R's service manual what's the minimum required specs by Maruti.If API SL meets/exceeds the requirement,you can safely use it.

Thanks RB for replying. Manual says oil should be SF, SG or SH. I think these grades are obselete now. So moving to SL or SM.

Shell sales person claims that this oil can be used for extended time. Did anybody used this and extended there drain period. My car is mostly used for highway driving.
Any other semi synthetic suggested and available in pune

gpa · 17th July 2009, 10:22

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Originally Posted by mdesai_1981

hi guys another idiotic question.
waht is the difference between MOBIL 1 OIL FILTERS and OEM OIL FILTERS?

I think its best to stick to your vehicle's OEM filter and switch to the synthetic oil. Also, I don't think Mobil 1's performance oil filters are available for all brands of cars. Would be great if someone would throw some light on this.

srikant · 17th July 2009, 10:55

Can anybody help me with this question? Which is the CG rated fully synthetic oil for swift DDiS and whats the cost for the same?

tsk1979 · 17th July 2009, 10:59

Castrol Edge turbodiesel is API-CI4 and exceeds the required specification of your car. You can go for it.
Cost for 4 liters should be around 2000rs

meremortal · 17th July 2009, 11:28

Hello all,

This is a MAYDAY x 3 for information.

Have given my Palio Stile 1.6 for fourth service. Done close to 17k on the clock. Planning to change over to fully synthetic engine oil.

Request all "oil raja's" to provide some insight on the best brand available in India. I have looked and found Mobil1 (5W-50), Shell Helix Ultra (5W-40) and Castrol Magnatec (10W-40). Are these suitable to my car at all?

Please respond asap. Gotta hand deliver the goods to the service station by 15:00 hrs today.

Thanks

jkdas · 17th July 2009, 11:32

http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/modify...neral-oil.html
http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/techni...ade-palio.html

Raccoon · 17th July 2009, 14:26

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Originally Posted by meremortal

Hello all,

This is a MAYDAY x 3 for information.

Have given my Palio Stile 1.6 for fourth service. Done close to 17k on the clock. Planning to change over to fully synthetic engine oil.

Request all "oil raja's" to provide some insight on the best brand available in India. I have looked and found Mobil1 (5W-50), Shell Helix Ultra (5W-40) and Castrol Magnatec (10W-40). Are these suitable to my car at all?

Please respond asap. Gotta hand deliver the goods to the service station by 15:00 hrs today.

Thanks

Why is it that so many people thing Castrol Magnatec is a fully synthetic oil?

Bingo! I guess I know the answer - dubious marketing!!

sgiitk · 17th July 2009, 14:36

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Originally Posted by shabahmad

Manual says oil should be SF, SG or SH. I think these grades are obselete now. So moving to SL or SM.

Exactly SF was the basic grade. SG had additions to qualify it as fuel saving. SH was for semi-synths (if I remember right). You can still find SF in good old Servo while BP claims to have launched SG! Since the minimum called for is SF any of SJ (obsolescent but still current), SL or SM will do. Incidentally SF was the first grade to permit once a year /10000mile oil changes.

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srikant BHPian Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Bengaluru Posts: 489 Thanked: 12 Times	So which one can i use for the DDiS now? CI or CG? As far as i know, CI may not be a problem to use in CG rated. So can i change to Mobil Delvac 1 5W-40/API CI-4?
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shabahmad BHPian Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Pune Posts: 270 Thanked: 21 Times	How good is Shell helix Super 15W-40? Is it a mineral oil or semisynthetic? The sales person at shell pump is saying that this oil can be used around 12000KM inteasd of normal 10K. I am thinking to use this oil for WagonR which is completing 20000 Kms. My use is 70% highway. I am also thinking to use engine oil additive from OWS with oil change. Please let me know is any other oil is suggested. Last edited by shabahmad : 16th July 2009 at 18:34.
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mdesai_1981 BHPian Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Mumbai Posts: 188 Thanked: 29 Times View My Garage	hi guys another idiotic question. waht is the difference between MOBIL 1 OIL FILTERS and OEM OIL FILTERS? does mobil 1 oil filter really help if one switches over to synthetic oil?
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srikant BHPian Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Bengaluru Posts: 489 Thanked: 12 Times	Can anybody help me with this question? Which is the CG rated fully synthetic oil for swift DDiS and whats the cost for the same?
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tsk1979 Team-BHP Support Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 23,732 Thanked: 23,448 Times View My Garage	Castrol Edge turbodiesel is API-CI4 and exceeds the required specification of your car. You can go for it. Cost for 4 liters should be around 2000rs
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meremortal BHPian Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Bangalore Posts: 53 Thanked: 3 Times	Which engine oil ? Hello all, This is a MAYDAY x 3 for information. Have given my Palio Stile 1.6 for fourth service. Done close to 17k on the clock. Planning to change over to fully synthetic engine oil. Request all "oil raja's" to provide some insight on the best brand available in India. I have looked and found Mobil1 (5W-50), Shell Helix Ultra (5W-40) and Castrol Magnatec (10W-40). Are these suitable to my car at all? Please respond asap. Gotta hand deliver the goods to the service station by 15:00 hrs today. Thanks Last edited by Jaggu : 17th July 2009 at 11:52. Reason: Please use search before opening a new thread! Thanks
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jkdas Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Thiruvananthapu Posts: 9,687 Thanked: 1,495 Times View My Garage	http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/modify...neral-oil.html http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/techni...ade-palio.html
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