Power Horns!

Wolffe · 25th April 2009, 10:43

The price of the Stebel Nautilus has gone up as mentioned earlier.Yesterday's price in GP Road was Rs.850-the guy(Victory Automobiles) said I can have it for Rs.775..
Type R has flooded the market with imitations of every possible accessory-including the Stebel Nautilus.It's priced at Rs.475-but will it work as good as the Nautilus,you be the judge.

amit_mechengg · 25th April 2009, 12:08

my electrician suggested me not to put the relay that had come with STEBEL.
instead i put a Indian make relay costing 65rs.
he said that he has got lots of experience in fitting horns. the relays that come with horn dont work for long time.
i confirmed this with the horn repair shop side by.
my nautilus is happily blowing since more than a year with same loudness.
and people who are wondering how many times a day i use, i use it as a daily horn.

ankitahuja · 25th April 2009, 12:34

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Originally Posted by Wolffe

The price of the Stebel Nautilus has gone up as mentioned earlier.Yesterday's price in GP Road was Rs.850-the guy(Victory Automobiles) said I can have it for Rs.775..
Type R has flooded the market with imitations of every possible accessory-including the Stebel Nautilus.It's priced at Rs.475-but will it work as good as the Nautilus,you be the judge.

Absolutely true. The fakes are avaiable a dime a dozen. Not just Type-R, but the fakes are also offered in the original packing. Worst is, it's damn difficult to tell the genuine one between the fakes.

Hope the one being sold for Rs 775 is genuine too. I suspect not!

Quote:

Originally Posted by amit_mechengg

my electrician suggested me not to put the relay that had come with STEBEL.
instead i put a Indian make relay costing 65rs.
he said that he has got lots of experience in fitting horns. the relays that come with horn dont work for long time.
i confirmed this with the horn repair shop side by.
my nautilus is happily blowing since more than a year with same loudness.
and people who are wondering how many times a day i use, i use it as a daily horn.

Daily horn? Spare the commuters

In my experience with the Stebel, I've known/heard/seen the horn going bad, but never ever heard of a fault in the relay.

saintsinner · 25th April 2009, 15:35

i have two sets of roots windtones. the ones in red in color, and they are loud. the relay i have been using is a one similar to the stebel one (black squarish). 3 yrs down and still working fine!

live2drive · 25th April 2009, 15:38

I have a question, Do I need to add a relay if i have installed a seperate switch and seperate wiring for a horn?
The horn in question is Nautilius.

ankitahuja · 25th April 2009, 15:46

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Originally Posted by live2drive

I have a question, Do I need to add a relay if i have installed a seperate switch and seperate wiring for a horn?
The horn in question is Nautilius.

Abhinav, you meant to say that you've not installed a relay with the Stebel Nautilus? It's a MUST!

itwasntme · 25th April 2009, 20:01

I have a Stebel Magnum electromagnetic horn which is fitted with the included black square relay. I am not very happy with the sound as it sounds too 'sweet' and not as loud as I though it would.

Will it be louder if I swap the Stebel relay with an Indian one? Is the Stebel relay not working as well as it should? Why do most Indian car electricians recommend the Bosch/PMP ones?

live2drive · 26th April 2009, 00:27

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Originally Posted by ankitahuja

Abhinav, you meant to say that you've not installed a relay with the Stebel Nautilus? It's a MUST!

No, i havent installed it. Actually i dont get why a relay is needed if we have seperate switch and seperate wiring from the battery with a fuse installed.
A relay can't amplify the battery's power. Hope you guys get what i mean.
On the other hand i agree relay is a must if you are installing the toggle switch between the OEM horn and the Nautilius where oem wiring comes into play. But if we have a seperate circuit (fuse protected) then what is the need of seperate relay?? Gurus please enlighten.

ankitahuja · 26th April 2009, 01:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by live2drive

No, i havent installed it. Actually i dont get why a relay is needed if we have seperate switch and seperate wiring from the battery with a fuse installed.
A relay can't amplify the battery's power. Hope you guys get what i mean.
On the other hand i agree relay is a must if you are installing the toggle switch between the OEM horn and the Nautilius where oem wiring comes into play. But if we have a seperate circuit (fuse protected) then what is the need of seperate relay?? Gurus please enlighten.

"Because a relay is able to control an output circuit of higher power than the input circuit, it can be considered to be, in a broad sense, a form of an electrical amplifier".

Source: Relay - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Abhinav, a relay is necessary to protect the circuitry of the product, not only as for amplification (read neutralization) but in simpler terms, to regulate the flow of power/current to the horn, which in any case, can also be to protect high current passed to the horns (which can cause damage).

Hope this helps!

Cyberpirate · 26th April 2009, 01:30

hey guys if any of you can get me this stebel horn for a cheap rate here in Chennai. please pm me.. i would be delighted in getting one for my Scorpio.
Chao.

janitha · 26th April 2009, 06:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by live2drive

No, i havent installed it. Actually i dont get why a relay is needed if we have seperate switch and seperate wiring from the battery with a fuse installed.
A relay can't amplify the battery's power. Hope you guys get what i mean.
On the other hand i agree relay is a must if you are installing the toggle switch between the OEM horn and the Nautilius where oem wiring comes into play. But if we have a seperate circuit (fuse protected) then what is the need of seperate relay?? Gurus please enlighten.

The relay is used since the switch in the steering or your separate switch will not have the power handling capacity for the horns. (in amperes)

joshguy · 26th April 2009, 08:30

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Originally Posted by Jai3033

Dont buy the silver BOSCH (first on the bottom row). I fixed one on my Skoda a couple of years back, its loud but the sound is not sharp and is kind of bass heavy. This was creating a booming noise inside the car. GO for the Hella red grill.

Thank u jai,I got red grill fixed in my swift.

amit_mechengg · 26th April 2009, 21:04

ooh no!! just the other day i said that my stebel nautilus is still going strong even after a year and half and goshhhhhhh , it went down today while returning from matheran.
well it is still not completely dead, the 139 decibel horn has suddenly come down to about 60 decibels. its still blowing but not to its potential.

can someone help here? what might have happened? is it the horn that has gone kaput or the relay or something else.
can i get it repaired? i cannot part with my horn, i love it a lot.

Cyberpirate · 27th April 2009, 00:03

hey guys can you give me the contact no. of the dealers from GP road, who have this horn. i was thinking of installing one by the end of this week.

ankitahuja · 27th April 2009, 00:38

@amit_mechengg - Sorry to hear that. There is a thread on this topic, it might help to answer your questions.

http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/techni...tebel+nautilus

25th April 2009, 10:43	#601
Wolffe BHPian Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Motorcity Madras Posts: 169 Thanked: 5 Times View My Garage	The price of the Stebel Nautilus has gone up as mentioned earlier.Yesterday's price in GP Road was Rs.850-the guy(Victory Automobiles) said I can have it for Rs.775.. Type R has flooded the market with imitations of every possible accessory-including the Stebel Nautilus.It's priced at Rs.475-but will it work as good as the Nautilus,you be the judge.
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25th April 2009, 12:08	#602
amit_mechengg Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Pune Posts: 2,488 Thanked: 2,263 Times View My Garage	my electrician suggested me not to put the relay that had come with STEBEL. instead i put a Indian make relay costing 65rs. he said that he has got lots of experience in fitting horns. the relays that come with horn dont work for long time. i confirmed this with the horn repair shop side by. my nautilus is happily blowing since more than a year with same loudness. and people who are wondering how many times a day i use, i use it as a daily horn.
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25th April 2009, 15:35	#604
saintsinner BANNED Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Noida Posts: 612 Thanked: 11 Times	i have two sets of roots windtones. the ones in red in color, and they are loud. the relay i have been using is a one similar to the stebel one (black squarish). 3 yrs down and still working fine!
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25th April 2009, 15:38	#605
live2drive BHPian Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: New Delhi Posts: 525 Thanked: 27 Times View My Garage	I have a question, Do I need to add a relay if i have installed a seperate switch and seperate wiring for a horn? The horn in question is Nautilius.
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25th April 2009, 20:01	#607
itwasntme Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: May 2007 Location: BANGALORE Posts: 7,722 Thanked: 14,166 Times View My Garage	I have a Stebel Magnum electromagnetic horn which is fitted with the included black square relay. I am not very happy with the sound as it sounds too 'sweet' and not as loud as I though it would. Will it be louder if I swap the Stebel relay with an Indian one? Is the Stebel relay not working as well as it should? Why do most Indian car electricians recommend the Bosch/PMP ones?
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26th April 2009, 01:30	#610
Cyberpirate BHPian Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: India>Chennai Posts: 44 Thanked: 5 Times	hey guys if any of you can get me this stebel horn for a cheap rate here in Chennai. please pm me.. i would be delighted in getting one for my Scorpio. Chao.
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26th April 2009, 21:04	#613
amit_mechengg Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Pune Posts: 2,488 Thanked: 2,263 Times View My Garage	ooh no!! just the other day i said that my stebel nautilus is still going strong even after a year and half and goshhhhhhh , it went down today while returning from matheran. well it is still not completely dead, the 139 decibel horn has suddenly come down to about 60 decibels. its still blowing but not to its potential. can someone help here? what might have happened? is it the horn that has gone kaput or the relay or something else. can i get it repaired? i cannot part with my horn, i love it a lot.
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27th April 2009, 00:03	#614
Cyberpirate BHPian Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: India>Chennai Posts: 44 Thanked: 5 Times	hey guys can you give me the contact no. of the dealers from GP road, who have this horn. i was thinking of installing one by the end of this week.
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27th April 2009, 00:38	#615
ankitahuja BHPian Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Gurgaon Posts: 929 Thanked: 99 Times View My Garage	@amit_mechengg - Sorry to hear that. There is a thread on this topic, it might help to answer your questions. http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/techni...tebel+nautilus
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