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tsk1979 · 3rd January 2007, 17:40

When your headlights are on in dipper position the stalk is towards you. When you throw the stalk forward you activate high beam. This is correct usage.
While in dipper position if you pull stalk towards you both filaments will get activated. But this position will remain as long as you are pulling stalk when you release stack it will come in dipper again.
In daytime you can pull stalk towards you when lights are off to flash your lights, this will activate only high beam, and not both beams.
Pulling stalk towards you activates high+ low when headlights are on.

Mugen_Power · 3rd January 2007, 18:01

@mail4ajo,

I think you drives Alto, in alto when you will will pull stalk towards you low beam will be deactivated automatically.

so there is nothing to worry if you drives Alto.

Mugen.

mail4ajo · 3rd January 2007, 18:05

Ohh my god, I almost burnt my new set of 100/90W bulbs.

I always use the dipper the way TSK explained. When my bulbs are in low beam, I pull the stalk towards me and release it. The bulbs automatically go into high beam. I followed this because, this is the method mentioned the car manual.

Thanks to TSK for pointing this out.

Technocrat · 3rd January 2007, 18:14

@mail4ajo: Dont worry bro like Mugen_Power said it does not happen in Alto

Mugen_Power · 3rd January 2007, 18:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by mail4ajo

I always use the dipper the way TSK explained. When my bulbs are in low beam, I pull the stalk towards me and release it. The bulbs automatically go into high beam.

Dont worry, Nothing to worry in Alto.

tsk1979 · 3rd January 2007, 18:25

Its different from car to car.
In Tata safari you have to pull stalk towards you and release to switch to high beam. Repeat action to switch to low and so forth. So the method mentioned in your manual is the one to be followed
I was talking about 800s, Indica's, OHC etc., where when one is in dipper moving stalk towards you puts high and low beam together.

jeyadev_k · 5th January 2007, 09:08

Hi... I have Wagon R VXi. I have decided to upgrade my head lights to Philips Rally 100/90 based on the threads going here. Can I directly replace the existing bulbs or I have to fix Relay and improve my existing Wiring?

And one more Question, I saw a provision under head light to fix fog lamp. Can i fix a new set in that with philips 100/90 bulbs?

tsk1979 · 5th January 2007, 12:30

For wiring and relay, you can get any Kit. cost of wiring+relay kit is around 350rs.

As per fog lamps. you can go for OEM fog lamps. Fog lamps are not H4. So they have single wattage and not 100/90W or 60/55W dual wattage.
You can get any H3 equipped headlamps, but usually 55W are enough.

sumitkalindi · 5th January 2007, 13:41

Hi, Just my two pence. Usually in most of the vehicles, the headlight stalk has the following position,
Down, High beam,
Up,Low beam

(while changing from the high beam to low beam & vice versa, you hear a click, and you can feel it also,)

Pass, you have to pull the stalk towards you from the Up position.
There is no click, but you can feel that this action is spring loaded, so when you release the stalk it returns to Up position-Low Beam.

PLEASE NOTE THAT IN YOUR CAR THE WAYS TO ACTIVATE HIGH BEAM, LOW BEAM, AND PASS MAYBE DIFFERENT. Please check the manuall of your vehicle.

Pass is used to flash the high beams only momentarily. All the bulb manufactures recommend that Pass should not be used for more than 10 Secs.

So as long as you really use the Pass position to only flash your high beams it is OK

Enjoy

autoenthusiast · 10th January 2007, 22:42

Guys, just being careful.
Won't using such high wattage bulbs void your Car Insurance claim incase the cause of an accident is found to be due to the driver of the oncoming vehicle being blinded ?

iraghava · 11th January 2007, 00:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by autoenthusiast

Guys, just being careful.
Won't using such high wattage bulbs void your Car Insurance claim incase the cause of an accident is found to be due to the driver of the oncoming vehicle being blinded ?

How many cases have you ever heard about where a driver was convicted for an accident because he blinded the oncoming vehicle???

scorp 1 · 11th January 2007, 00:29

Hey, can someone guide me to a good HID kit for the Honda City Zx.
Can the fog lamps have the HIDs installed too ? What is the market price for these kits ? Finally, is it possible to remove the kit and use it on another vehicle (when planning to sell off the car) ?

Mugen_Power · 11th January 2007, 00:43

You can get Philips HID kit with B/W or some other brands without B/W.If your budget permits than you can HID kit to fog lamps also.

Other brands are for approx 16K and philips around 20K. You can remove kit and fit original lamps within few minutes.

mithun · 12th January 2007, 06:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by iraghava

How many cases have you ever heard about where a driver was convicted for an accident because he blinded the oncoming vehicle???

I haven't heard of convictions in Indian land, but I've heard about a lot of accidents caused by the glare of high intensity lights especially in the case of 2-Wheelers.

Most of HID owners thinks that they are night-hawks and they give a damn for the oncoming vehicles !!!

iraghava · 12th January 2007, 06:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by mithun

Most of HID owners thinks that they are night-hawks and they give a damn for the oncoming vehicles !!!

Well then you need to go out & see what the truckers think of themselves, 'cause most of them have their headlights positioned at such an angle that it becomes almost impossible for even an experienced driver to not be blinded. They are out in huge numbers on our roads compared to the microscopic minority the HID owners are in.

3rd January 2007, 17:40	#106
tsk1979 Team-BHP Support Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 23,724 Thanked: 22,927 Times View My Garage	When your headlights are on in dipper position the stalk is towards you. When you throw the stalk forward you activate high beam. This is correct usage. While in dipper position if you pull stalk towards you both filaments will get activated. But this position will remain as long as you are pulling stalk when you release stack it will come in dipper again. In daytime you can pull stalk towards you when lights are off to flash your lights, this will activate only high beam, and not both beams. Pulling stalk towards you activates high+ low when headlights are on.
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3rd January 2007, 18:01	#107
Mugen_Power Senior - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Gujarat 03 Posts: 1,302 Thanked: 18 Times	@mail4ajo, I think you drives Alto, in alto when you will will pull stalk towards you low beam will be deactivated automatically. so there is nothing to worry if you drives Alto. Mugen.
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3rd January 2007, 18:05	#108
mail4ajo Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 1,957 Thanked: 331 Times View My Garage	Ohh my god, I almost burnt my new set of 100/90W bulbs. I always use the dipper the way TSK explained. When my bulbs are in low beam, I pull the stalk towards me and release it. The bulbs automatically go into high beam. I followed this because, this is the method mentioned the car manual. Thanks to TSK for pointing this out.
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3rd January 2007, 18:14	#109
Technocrat Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: GTA Posts: 14,815 Thanked: 2,701 Times	@mail4ajo: Dont worry bro like Mugen_Power said it does not happen in Alto
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3rd January 2007, 18:25	#111
tsk1979 Team-BHP Support Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 23,724 Thanked: 22,927 Times View My Garage	Its different from car to car. In Tata safari you have to pull stalk towards you and release to switch to high beam. Repeat action to switch to low and so forth. So the method mentioned in your manual is the one to be followed I was talking about 800s, Indica's, OHC etc., where when one is in dipper moving stalk towards you puts high and low beam together.
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5th January 2007, 09:08	#112
jeyadev_k Newbie Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 3 Thanked: 0 Times	Hi... I have Wagon R VXi. I have decided to upgrade my head lights to Philips Rally 100/90 based on the threads going here. Can I directly replace the existing bulbs or I have to fix Relay and improve my existing Wiring? And one more Question, I saw a provision under head light to fix fog lamp. Can i fix a new set in that with philips 100/90 bulbs?
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5th January 2007, 12:30	#113
tsk1979 Team-BHP Support Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 23,724 Thanked: 22,927 Times View My Garage	For wiring and relay, you can get any Kit. cost of wiring+relay kit is around 350rs. As per fog lamps. you can go for OEM fog lamps. Fog lamps are not H4. So they have single wattage and not 100/90W or 60/55W dual wattage. You can get any H3 equipped headlamps, but usually 55W are enough.
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5th January 2007, 13:41	#114
sumitkalindi BHPian Join Date: May 2006 Location: Kolkata Posts: 376 Thanked: 17 Times View My Garage	Hi, Just my two pence. Usually in most of the vehicles, the headlight stalk has the following position, Down, High beam, Up,Low beam (while changing from the high beam to low beam & vice versa, you hear a click, and you can feel it also,) Pass, you have to pull the stalk towards you from the Up position. There is no click, but you can feel that this action is spring loaded, so when you release the stalk it returns to Up position-Low Beam. PLEASE NOTE THAT IN YOUR CAR THE WAYS TO ACTIVATE HIGH BEAM, LOW BEAM, AND PASS MAYBE DIFFERENT. Please check the manuall of your vehicle. Pass is used to flash the high beams only momentarily. All the bulb manufactures recommend that Pass should not be used for more than 10 Secs. So as long as you really use the Pass position to only flash your high beams it is OK Enjoy Last edited by sumitkalindi : 5th January 2007 at 13:45.
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10th January 2007, 22:42	#115
autoenthusiast BHPian Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Goa Posts: 417 Thanked: 5 Times	Guys, just being careful. Won't using such high wattage bulbs void your Car Insurance claim incase the cause of an accident is found to be due to the driver of the oncoming vehicle being blinded ?
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11th January 2007, 00:29	#117
scorp 1 BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: DL Posts: 167 Thanked: 6 Times	Hey, can someone guide me to a good HID kit for the Honda City Zx. Can the fog lamps have the HIDs installed too ? What is the market price for these kits ? Finally, is it possible to remove the kit and use it on another vehicle (when planning to sell off the car) ?
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11th January 2007, 00:43	#118
Mugen_Power Senior - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Gujarat 03 Posts: 1,302 Thanked: 18 Times	You can get Philips HID kit with B/W or some other brands without B/W.If your budget permits than you can HID kit to fog lamps also. Other brands are for approx 16K and philips around 20K. You can remove kit and fit original lamps within few minutes.
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