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Hi, can someone please comment on the aftermarket kits from autoglam.in? I was looking at the following for my Verna fluidic, and they look really cool:

http://www.autoglam.in/projector-hea...tor-headlights

From the autoglam website:

They are giving 55W bi-xenon HIDs, and it's supposed to be a straight fit replacement without wire cutting. But I'm not sure about (a) quality and other issues (b) Whether any heating issues could occur due to incorrect projector casing for HIDs. Any feedback is highly appreciated. Thanks!

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Originally Posted by PearlJam (Post 4203226)

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I see these a lot nowadays, 3-4 of them in my society itself. They were pretty cool some time back, but now they look downright shoddy. Sort of reminiscent of the "my other car is a roller" sticker. They are everywhere, from altos to ecosports.
However, if you do want to go for them, these same ones are the units that are there on the majority of cars. It would be better if you just get morimoto's in the stock headlamps, without this LED thingummies. Solves the purpose and is discreet enough.

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Originally Posted by PearlJam (Post 4203226)

Hi, can someone please comment on the aftermarket kits from autoglam.in? I was looking at the following for my Verna fluidic, and they look really cool:

They are giving 55W bi-xenon HIDs, and it's supposed to be a straight fit replacement without wire cutting. But I'm not sure about (a) quality and other issues (b) Whether any heating issues could occur due to incorrect projector casing for HIDs. Any feedback is highly appreciated. Thanks!

For the price of 44k mentioned in the website, its highly overpriced and way too much bling.
If that is your purpose and expectation, go ahead.

On the other hand, if you want a neat setup with more functional value than bling factor, do look around for some custom retrofitting experts. At around half the above price, you will get some quality stuff as well as plenty of option to customize your headlight assembly.

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Originally Posted by PearlJam (Post 4203226)

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Originally Posted by Myth_sx (Post 4203338)

On the other hand, if you want a neat setup with more functional value than bling factor, do look around for some custom retrofitting experts. At around half the above price, you will get some quality stuff as well as plenty of option to customize your headlight assembly.

+1 to Myth_sx. These headlights give more importance to the bling factor than the actual headlight performance. I have seen such after market replicas with colorful DRL's etc., but with very poor light output from the main projector.

If you need good light, the best option would be to retrofit a good projector from a well known source like Morimoto or XenonPlanet, and find a professional retrofitter who will do a good job of retrofitting.

Else it is better to go with 100W halogen upgrade with relay kit.

Another option which may be expensive is to go with OE projector headlights that may be fit in cars sold in other countries.

EDIT: I see that the latest Fluidic Verna comes with projector headlights from factory. Check with the Hyundai workshop if it is possible to fit the OE lights to your Verna.

Thanks for all your inputs!

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Originally Posted by mayankk (Post 4203241)

It would be better if you just get morimoto's in the stock headlamps, without this LED thingummies. Solves the purpose and is discreet enough.

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Originally Posted by Myth_sx (Post 4203338)

if you want a neat setup with more functional value than bling factor, do look around for some custom retrofitting experts. At around half the above price, you will get some quality stuff as well as plenty of option to customize your headlight assembly.

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Originally Posted by graaja (Post 4203373)

If you need good light, the best option would be to retrofit a good projector from a well known source like Morimoto or XenonPlanet, and find a professional retrofitter who will do a good job of retrofitting.

Else it is better to go with 100W halogen upgrade with relay kit.

Another option which may be expensive is to go with OE projector headlights that may be fit in cars sold in other countries.

EDIT: I see that the latest Fluidic Verna comes with projector headlights from factory. Check with the Hyundai workshop if it is possible to fit the OE lights to your Verna.

Just to clarify, I already have the OEM projectors in my Verna 4S. They work pretty well, but it lacks LED DRLs. I have three main requirements, in order of priority:

No wire cutting for the sake of warranty
Add LED DRLs that doesn't stick out like a sore thumb. Some people put an extra LED strip, which I do not want.
Increase brightness of the OEM projectors. Though they are OK, a little more brightness would do no harm!

The pre-facelift Verna used to have an option for OEM projectors that came along with LED DRLs. But the issues with them are (a) Way too expensive, more than a lakh for a set (b) Doesn't look that great anyway for that price (c) Brightness of LED DRLs is low (I've seen on a couple on the road), and brightness of projectors is same as what I already have.

Upgrading the Halogens to 100w may not be worth it, mainly due to the extra heat and other relay/changes anyway. I may as well move to HIDs in that case.

If I want to only meet my requirement (1) above, then there is also an option of buying the foglamp that has DRLs in it - They involve just a straight replacement of the OEM fog lamps:

But again, these are relatively cheap chinese replacements from aliexpress, and I'm not sure of the brightness of the DRLs, as well as reliability.

Thoughts?

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Originally Posted by PearlJam (Post 4204570)

Just to clarify, I already have the OEM projectors in my Verna 4S. They work pretty well, but it lacks LED DRLs. I have three main requirements, in order of priority:

No wire cutting for the sake of warranty
Add LED DRLs that doesn't stick out like a sore thumb. Some people put an extra LED strip, which I do not want.
Increase brightness of the OEM projectors. Though they are OK, a little more brightness would do no harm!

But again, these are relatively cheap chinese replacements from aliexpress, and I'm not sure of the brightness of the DRLs, as well as reliability.

Thoughts?

Any aftermarket replica does not have the guarantee to have good looks and performance.

Satisfying all your conditions is very difficult. The only option I can see is to go for those fog lamps with DRLs. I would not recommend any changes to the headlights as you have mentioned that they perform well.

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Originally Posted by drhoneycake (Post 4203510)

Anyone tried these Bi-Beam LED Projectors ??? Looking into getting it for one of the cars at home. The advantages that these guys speak of with LED's compared to HID's is

1) Instant on (no warm-up)
2) Longer life (20,000hrs)
3) Uses much less current than HID's.
4) Because of 1, you don't lose the ability to flash.

Here's a comparison video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ws6R1Zdk22M

To be honest, after seeing the video, I feel the HIDs seem to perform better than the LEDs. The HID beam covers a larger area (especially in the center) as compared to the LEDs. I also noticed in the LED set up, a slight delay in the right side bulb when the lights were being flashed at 1m 15s in the video.

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Originally Posted by me_sid (Post 4204939)

Epic, +1 to that. I was kind of contemplating in going for LED's, but came across this video. In fact in my earlier generation XUV, I had a pair of Morimotos (HID) fitted, worked extremely well, and that too for almost 2 years without any issues. Spread, intensity was quite good. Only issue is that HID's don't perform like Halogens in the rain. However, I am talking in the perspective of having projectors teamed up with LED.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=utrYcpXDwJ8

Agreed with you and Epic

In the video above he plonks an led bulb inside a projector which messes up the optics and hence a poor beam.

What I've asked in my video is with regards to an LED Projector with no bulb, but a led chip inside, similar to the bi-beam headlights of the new fortuner, Ignis, new Dzire. The cutoff seems to be brilliant in the comparison video and hence the question.

I've tried these led bulbs in my Verna's Projector headlights and they're awful. No cutoff, no proper beam, just a white light. I use 35W 4300K HID's now and they are absolutely brilliant.

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Originally Posted by drhoneycake (Post 4203510)

Anyone tried these Bi-Beam LED Projectors ??? Looking into getting it for one of the cars at home.

Hi drhoneycake,

Even I am was looking at this option primarily because we won't have to fiddle with original wiring and deal with high voltage. However I feel this type of product will take time to mature and parts used at the moment might not be OEM spec.

Following are some of the listings from aliexpress

https://www.aliexpress.com/store/gro...608.0.0.xxQl7z

This one is OEM but isn't available easily and expensive.
http://vip-xenon.com.ua/en/projector...ors-koito.html

Until then I believe HID would be the best option available to us.

Regards.