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Thanks for the info. While I dont need it now, I have stored this knowledge away for future use.

I upgraded my WagonRs bulbs to 100/90 from Osram - Since they were from germany and all the other bulbs were India or China made. But still, I was disappointed with the light quality. The Osrams are nowhere close to the Rallys(german made) on my SX4.

The WagonR earlier had Philips 60/55(german) made and this 100/90 from Osram gave very minimal improvement.

This saturday I will search every single shop on JC Road to find some german made Phillips rallys and will buy his entire stock to use it for lifetime. The kind of light intensity and output they give is just unbeatable.

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Originally Posted by audioholic (Post 3870743)
I upgraded my WagonRs bulbs to 100/90 from Osram - Since they were from germany and all the other bulbs were India or China made. But still, I was disappointed with the light quality. The Osrams are nowhere close to the Rallys(german made) on my SX4.

The WagonR earlier had Philips 60/55(german) made and this 100/90 from Osram gave very minimal improvement.

This saturday I will search every single shop on JC Road to find some german made Phillips rallys and will buy his entire stock to use it for lifetime. The kind of light intensity and output they give is just unbeatable.

In case, by any chance, you cant get hold of the Philips Rallye, you could also try the 100/90 W Philips Premium Vision. They are awesome, and I am having a great performance from those bulbs.
Warm regards
Unavowed_X9

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Originally Posted by SunnyBoi (Post 3769969)
I had a roots H1 H7 wiring kit in my old car which kept on giving me problems including finnicky wires, melted fuses and burnt ceramic holders.

Hi SunnyBoi,

I am looking for roots ceramic H7 holders, would you be able to share a shop/dealer who stocks roots wiring kit/holder in Bangalore

http://rootsindustries.com/auto/wp-c...04/Holders.pdf

I am planing to use these holders and H4 wiring kit (Hella) to create wiring harness for low beam.

Could you also share your feedback about Hella H7 100w bulbs. How long did these last and were you able to compare this with Philips H7 80w.

Regards.

FOr people who have plopped in HIDs or higher than 35w bulbs in their ford foglamps(Fiesta old, or figo, old), can you tell me if it has in any way affected the reflectors? Chipping or melting?

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Originally Posted by antardaksh (Post 3871412)
I am looking for roots ceramic H7 holders, would you be able to share a shop/dealer who stocks roots wiring kit/holder in Bangalore.

I don't remember the shop name but it is approximately in the location posted below. Its a shop pained with blue around it. If not, there is a shop called Avinash (something something) who also has it. Avinash fellow gets least priority because he's a big snob.

There is also a big shop selling all roots stuff ( easily noticeable on the 1st cross) you can try there for the kit. As for the holders, try the shops I mentioned above.

https://www.google.co.in/maps/place/...!3m1!1s0x0:0x0

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Originally Posted by antardaksh (Post 3871412)
I am planing to use these holders and H4 wiring kit (Hella) to create wiring harness for low beam.

Do remember the H4 kit comes with only one wire for ground since only one filament is on at any given time. Same is not applicable with H1/H7 kits as usually both filaments/bulbs are on at high beam. Hence add separate ground wires so that both filaments each side have their own grounding.

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Originally Posted by antardaksh (Post 3871412)
Could you also share your feedback about Hella H7 100w bulbs. How long did these last and were you able to compare this with Philips H7 80w.

Hella H7 100W are the best bulbs I've used so far. They're much brighter than Philips 80W ( my car came with those, I replaced them with Hella 100W bulbs).

My previous hella bulbs wouldn't last because the Roots H7 ceramic bulb holders were crap and always used to short out. That's why I am against anything Roots.I'm currently using ceramic holders from a company called Super.

Hi,

I am planing to replace 55w H7 bulbs with 100/80w H7 bulb and use higher wattage headlight wiring kit. This is tricky because wiring for headlight in VW double barrel setup is internal. Single socket connects to the headlight unit and multiple wires from the socket are routed to high/low/park/signal bulb sockets.

I removed headlight to check quality of wires used for internal wiring and see if there is possibility of changing internal wires and H7 bulb holder.

Headlight Unit rear

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Headlight main socket (8 pins)

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Internal H7 Socket : You will notice two parallel wires to single terminal. This is same for low and high beam

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Internal H7 socket



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Internal wiring

All wires used within headlight unit are black, hence we need multimeter to identify which pin leads to which bulb. I was not able to find wiring schematic for headlight internal wiring. These wires look too thin to support 80/100w bulbs.

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I am not sure how to replace existing wires thru the existing socket. Easier and crude way would be to cut/splice existing wires and route higher gauge wire through the rubber cup but I do not want to choose this option.

Regards.

Hello guys.
I have a Maruti S cross, and very unhappy with the throw of light. On highway in night time, the visibility is very short and not suitable.
I am a novice with most technical terms, but can anyone guide as to what should be the upgrade and how it can be done ?

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Originally Posted by akshatmangal (Post 3877288)
Hello guys.

I have a Maruti S cross, and very unhappy with the throw of light. On highway in night time, the visibility is very short and not suitable.

I am a novice with most technical terms, but can anyone guide as to what should be the upgrade and how it can be done ?


Advice from another novice in that area:
1. Get a plug and play relay and holder kit that supports up to 130/100W.
2. Get a high performance bulb of higher wattage (100/90W) - Philips extreme vision +130 or osram night breaker unlimited.

Get them fitted at a trusted shop. Since,no cutting of wires involved,warranty won't be jeopardised.

Done !!

Or else,
1. Do step 2 alone and get a performance s bulb but in the stock 60/55 W rating and swap the existing ones with them.
But ,there's no replacement for displacement er....for wattage. The 100/90W will be absolute boon for highway drives.

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Originally Posted by antardaksh (Post 3873108)

All wires used within headlight unit are black, hence we need multimeter to identify which pin leads to which bulb. I was not able to find wiring schematic for headlight internal wiring. These wires look too thin to support 80/100w bulbs.

Look carefully, you will a fully black and a black with a grey streak. For 80/100 you have to add an external relay and wiring.

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Originally Posted by akshatmangal (Post 3877288)
Hello guys.
I have a Maruti S cross, and very unhappy with the throw of light. On highway in night time, the visibility is very short and not suitable.
I am a novice with most technical terms, but can anyone guide as to what should be the upgrade and how it can be done ?

I believe s-cross stock are 60/55w?

You got 2 options -
1. Replace stock with Phlips X-treme Vision Plus, as per reviews these seem to improve the visibility significantly. No need for extra wiring, just plug the new ones.
http://www.amazon.in/Philips-12342XV.../dp/B010VNEH86
2. Get a relay and use 100/90w Philips Rally or Osram, which I'm using and I tell you the visibility on highway is improved drastically.

If your usage is mostly in city then option 1 is better, else go for 2.

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Originally Posted by skyliner34 (Post 3877791)
I believe s-cross stock are 60/55w?

You got 2 options -
1. Replace stock with Phlips X-treme Vision Plus, as per reviews these seem to improve the visibility significantly. No need for extra wiring, just plug the new ones.
http://www.amazon.in/Philips-12342XV.../dp/B010VNEH86
2. Get a relay and use 100/90w Philips Rally or Osram, which I'm using and I tell you the visibility on highway is improved drastically.

If your usage is mostly in city then option 1 is better, else go for 2.

Get a Philips Dual Headlamp Relay. Buy a pair of 100/90W Hella or Philips Rallye halogen bulbs, and get it installed.
Total Cost would be less than Rs.1,500/-
Bliss on highway. No problems in case of inclement weather as in case of HID /white light.
Warm Regards,
Unavowed_X9

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Originally Posted by Unavowed_X9 (Post 3878713)
Bliss on highway. No problems in case of inclement weather as in case of HID /white light.

Many people (as a show off) go for 6000K or even 8000 / 10,000K bulbs. It is these which cause problems. I have 3000K 55W HID in my fogs, and my son has a 4300K HID system in his City. Neither of us have faced any colour / haze issues.

Let me add that being in Kanpur and Gurgaon fog is a constant companion in winters.

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Originally Posted by sgiitk (Post 3878818)
Many people (as a show off) go for 6000K or even 8000 / 10,000K bulbs. It is these which cause problems. I have 3000K 55W HID in my fogs, and my son has a 4300K HID system in his City. Neither of us have faced any colour / haze issues.

Simple case of Physics / Optics / Spectrum. White light vs Perspective Yellow / Yellowish light frequency.

After 4300K, the 6000K HID light is a pain to use on highways and in inclement weather. Self had one, and had to replace with regular halogen system to suit my long distance travel, prolonged night driving requirement, harsh terrain and inclement weather conditions that I travel in. With personal experience, I can vouch for it.

Pic to prove the point

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Warm regards,
Unavowed_X9

Folks,

I am driving palio stile 1.6 as my daily ride. The OEM light is enough in the city but when I take it out on the highway I feel that the throw is not enough and will be trying to use high beams when there is no oncoming vehicles nor anybody in front of me. I am thinking of replacing it and have few questions.

1. Would it be possible to replace OEM light of my car to HID's? I am asking this because I checked at couple of places and they were reluctant to do it saying its difficult to do on a palio.

2. Any suggestions for a good place to get this changed in Bangalore and what would be the approximate cost of the same?

3. Would going for HID's is right or should I go with LED's?

Would be helpful if I get any suggestions from you all regarding this.


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