[San Phrangmung]

After going through the thread for quiet a few days, finally changed the headlight bulb on my Wagon R to a 90/100 Philips along with a Hella relay kit. Price 800 for relay and 200 for 2 bulbs.
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Driving at night has certainly become a lot easier after this upgrade and would recommend this to bhpians.

[naveen.raju]

Originally Posted by San Phrangmung

After going through the thread for quiet a few days, finally changed the headlight bulb on my Wagon R to a 90/100 Philips along with a Hella relay kit. Price 800 for relay and 200 for 2 bulbs.
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Driving at night has certainly become a lot easier after this upgrade and would recommend this to bhpians.

@SP - congrats buddy. Glad to hear that you r satisfied with the results. It would be better if you post the pics so that other members can get to see this.
Safe driving.

[ragzv]

Guys: Does anyone know if a Swift is equipped with a company fitted Headlight relay. I could locate the relay for the fogs in the fuse box (in the bonnet) but none for the headlights.

[naveen.raju]

Originally Posted by ragzv

Guys: Does anyone know if a Swift is equipped with a company fitted Headlight relay. I could locate the relay for the fogs in the fuse box (in the bonnet) but none for the headlights.

R u sure you located the relay.? Stock light do not need any since it can withstand the battery power. Higher rated bulbs use relays. Kindly confirm this.
Thanks

[ragzv]

Yes, fog light does have a relay - located in the fuse box in the bonnet. It is even mentioned in the car service manual (i have dzire) but just could not locate it for the H/L.

[Digital Vampire]

Originally Posted by naveen.raju

Stock light do not need any since it can withstand the battery power. Higher rated bulbs use relays. Kindly confirm this.
Thanks

Did you mean to say the stock wires can withstand the current drawn by stock lamps from battery?

The HL relays are used for protecting low current capable stock wiring and also for providing the least length (lower resistance) path between the bulbs and the battery which would mean minimal losses and better light output.

I could be wrong, but IMO, all vehicles should have a stock headlight relay...At least all my 4 wheelers had it by default.

IMHO it would be bad design practice (and costly) to route high current to the stalk HL switch. Using a relay is cheaper, sturdier and efficient in power transfer (minimal losses).

[naveen.raju]

Guys, am not too sure on this.
When I installed higher rated bulbs, I bought a relay for this particular bulb. Didnt even have a clue that the stock bulbs had relays.
I think fellow bhpians can help you on this

[headers]

Originally Posted by Digital Vampire

I could be wrong, but IMO, all vehicles should have a stock headlight relay...At least all my 4 wheelers had it by default.

IMHO it would be bad design practice (and costly) to route high current to the stalk HL switch. Using a relay is cheaper, sturdier and efficient in power transfer (minimal losses).

You are correct Sir, Most modern vehicles manufactured post 2000, have OE HL relays!

[lilMonSter]

Hey guys, Does anyone know what size bulbs come in the fog lights of the alto k 10 vxi. are they H1, H7 or like the swift H8?

[Harshavarthan]

Is philips 100/90 rally discontinued ? I couldn't find any model called rally in philips india website. Only H4 24568 RA and H4 24569 RA is shown in 100/90W.

Also where can i get this ceramic holder ? Is there any specific brands to go for ?

[jeeva]

The notice on the packet (100/90s and the 130/100s) says its not street legal in Europe/not for sale in Europe or something of that kind. Not sure if the bulbs are manufactured in India though.

Its better to buy the headlight wiring kit readily available in any accessory shop. Roots/Hella make good ones. Hellas are harder to fin though.The kit comes with the complete wiring, ceramic holders, relays and fuses for the high and low beams. This way you play safe and avoid tampering the original wiring.

[headers]

I have a basic doubt - A silly noob question.

Why do people switch on ALL lights in their vehicle [I mean HL High Beam as well as Fog lights and extra lights] in city traffic?

I also find that some are interested in changing the FOG lamps to HIDs etc..Dont you consider it an overkill?

Cheers

[naveen.raju]

Originally Posted by headers

I have a basic doubt - A silly noob question.

Why do people switch on ALL lights in their vehicle [I mean HL High Beam as well as Fog lights and extra lights] in city traffic?

I also find that some are interested in changing the FOG lamps to HIDs etc..Dont you consider it an overkill?

Cheers

People change fogs to HIDs just for the bling factor. It's only for looks. People who think that it will improve the visibility when using HID;s in fogs, then they are absolutely wrong.

[headers]

Originally Posted by naveen.raju

People change fogs to HIDs just for the bling factor. It's only for looks. People who think that it will improve the visibility when using HID;s in fogs, then they are absolutely wrong.

A +10 to above. Infact we need yellow or colored lights for better penetration in FOG!!

[naveen.raju]

Originally Posted by headers

A +10 to above. Infact we need yellow or colored lights for better penetration in FOG!!

Yep. Yellow lights will only penetrate the fogs. So anything that's white is just for bling factor.
Even I had plans of doing so . And even mite do it soon.