Auto Lighting thread : Post all queries about automobile lighting here

Epic · 24th August 2009, 23:48

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Using the 55w bulb will cause any burns in the reflector or any load?

I am not sure if the 55W bulbs will cause and burns in the reflectors but I dont believe there would be any extra load.

Epic · 24th August 2009, 23:53

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Hi,

I have noticed that the reflectors of my fog lamps on my 2005 Swift are damaged. The silver reflective coating have developed cracks and also the edges of glass of the fog lamp is lined with dust from the inside. This totally destroys the look of the lamps and more over suppresses the intensity of light reflected on the road.

Ofcourse the only way to rectify this is to have the fogs lamps changed. However, I am sure that the lining of dust inside the fog lamp could be due dust entering due to an opening in the covering in wheel wells, but what could be the reason for the cracked reflectors?

Can anyone help me with the above issue?

humm · 25th August 2009, 00:16

There is no bulb for the headlamps between 60/55 & 100/90 without relay modification?

Incase I decide to go for a 100/90 bulb for my swift, which is the best relay system to be used? Won't the bulb cause any damage to the head reflectors?

@ Epic: Probably a loose fitting of the fog lamp bulbs or the connectors have resulted in water and dust entering the fog reflectors and thus causing the damage? Had you changed anything related to the original foglamp?

Reflectors can crack because of the water, heat and dust combination.

Epic · 25th August 2009, 10:59

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Originally Posted by humm

There is no bulb for the headlamps between 60/55 & 100/90 without relay modification?

Incase I decide to go for a 100/90 bulb for my swift, which is the best relay system to be used? Won't the bulb cause any damage to the head reflectors?

@ Epic: Probably a loose fitting of the fog lamp bulbs or the connectors have resulted in water and dust entering the fog reflectors and thus causing the damage? Had you changed anything related to the original foglamp?

Reflectors can crack because of the water, heat and dust combination.

Well no water has entered the fog lamp assembly for sure or else there would be signs of moisture and would also probably cause the bulbs to blow which is not the case. But yes there could be a loose fitting which has allowed dust to enter the assembly.

With regards to changes made, yes, I have changed my stock 35W H8 bulbs to 55W H8 bulbs. Could this be the reason of the reflectors being damaged due to extra heat caused?

Can the interior of a headlamp/fog lamp assembly be cleaned? If yes, what is the procedure?

Epic

humm · 26th August 2009, 01:12

@ Eric: Moisture does enter reflector areas no matter what protective measure you take. The combination of moisture, dust, heat does result in glass getting spoilt and reflectors also get damaged.

The change of bulbs also results in whats happened with you.

Apart from that 4 years is decent time for a wear-n-tear.

sunil.nv · 26th August 2009, 09:58

Got Osram Nightbreakers H4 60/55 after some serious search in Bangalore, JC road for 1200 a pair. Philips extreme vision wasnt available and they said that there was no supply since 2 months.

gpa · 26th August 2009, 10:43

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Originally Posted by sunil.nv

Philips extreme vision wasnt available and they said that there was no supply since 2 months.

Did you check with AK Traders who is the authorised stockist for Philips' automotive lighting range?

beejay · 27th August 2009, 19:12

I was considering to fix a pair of Lightforce lamps for the CJ340.

Planning on the Lightforce Blitz. I have had good reviews from people who have already have them fit.

Any reviews on the same here?

bigman · 27th August 2009, 19:24

Amar has a pair for his gypsy and Allan has some on his Orange MM550. Very nice light but quite expensive.

quickdraw · 27th August 2009, 20:36

I am thinking about them as well, do they have any OEM headlamp shapes for our desi cars? What kind of costs we looking at here?

jyobeb · 27th August 2009, 22:26

22K for a pair of 240 Blitz.

dreamdiesel · 28th August 2009, 02:28

Guys, I am currently running all OE lighting on my 2007 Swift VDI. I am thinking of installing HID xenon (4300K) just for the fog lamps (H8). Do you think its a practical thing to do? I understand 4300K should be almost equal to the OE fog lamps. I will go for a 100/90 Halogen setup for the headlamps. Any indicative prices for getting the HID in the foglamps done?

Its not for the bling factor as I am looking towards practicality. Any members who already have a HID setup in the Swift Foglamps? Need advise on this....

beejay · 28th August 2009, 09:04

Rs.18500 for 240 Blitz in Bangalore. Comes with 3 colors of extra covers, blue, yellow and red.

As far as I have understood these lights are extremely strong. Polycarbonate shield makes it shatterproof and very light. Care has to be taken on making the clamps as the lights tend to shake if not fixed right.
Original wiring harness alone costs 4500. Yet the lights can be fixed with a direct connection excluding the harness, however the warranty goes void in that case.

@technocrat, I do not understand how this thread has been moved to the 4x4 technical section. Light force lamps are a common sight on cars too.

@bigman, Amar and Allan are the only guys here who I have seen sporing these lamps.

Samurai · 28th August 2009, 09:23

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Originally Posted by beejay

@bigman, Amar and Allan are the only guys here who I have seen sporing these lamps.

Lot more guys have them, you should see in the OTRs.

Here is RAINMAKER's CJ3B.

beejay · 28th August 2009, 09:37

Are these lightforce? I have never seen this model.

25th August 2009, 00:16	#3228
humm BHPian Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Mumbai Posts: 78 Thanked: 4 Times	There is no bulb for the headlamps between 60/55 & 100/90 without relay modification? Incase I decide to go for a 100/90 bulb for my swift, which is the best relay system to be used? Won't the bulb cause any damage to the head reflectors? @ Epic: Probably a loose fitting of the fog lamp bulbs or the connectors have resulted in water and dust entering the fog reflectors and thus causing the damage? Had you changed anything related to the original foglamp? Reflectors can crack because of the water, heat and dust combination. Last edited by humm : 25th August 2009 at 00:19.
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26th August 2009, 01:12	#3230
humm BHPian Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Mumbai Posts: 78 Thanked: 4 Times	@ Eric: Moisture does enter reflector areas no matter what protective measure you take. The combination of moisture, dust, heat does result in glass getting spoilt and reflectors also get damaged. The change of bulbs also results in whats happened with you. Apart from that 4 years is decent time for a wear-n-tear.
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26th August 2009, 09:58	#3231
sunil.nv BHPian Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Bangalore Posts: 59 Thanked: 10 Times	Osram Nightbreakers Got Osram Nightbreakers H4 60/55 after some serious search in Bangalore, JC road for 1200 a pair. Philips extreme vision wasnt available and they said that there was no supply since 2 months.
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27th August 2009, 19:12	#3233
beejay Senior - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: The Nilgiris Posts: 1,968 Thanked: 213 Times View My Garage	Light Force- I was considering to fix a pair of Lightforce lamps for the CJ340. Planning on the Lightforce Blitz. I have had good reviews from people who have already have them fit. Any reviews on the same here?
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27th August 2009, 19:24	#3234
bigman Senior - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: NA Posts: 1,225 Thanked: 94 Times	Amar has a pair for his gypsy and Allan has some on his Orange MM550. Very nice light but quite expensive.
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27th August 2009, 20:36	#3235
quickdraw Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: New Delhi Posts: 1,310 Thanked: 2,853 Times View My Garage	I am thinking about them as well, do they have any OEM headlamp shapes for our desi cars? What kind of costs we looking at here?
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27th August 2009, 22:26	#3236
jyobeb Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Madurai Posts: 1,010 Thanked: 704 Times	22K for a pair of 240 Blitz.
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28th August 2009, 02:28	#3237
dreamdiesel BHPian Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Bangalore Posts: 420 Thanked: 63 Times	Guys, I am currently running all OE lighting on my 2007 Swift VDI. I am thinking of installing HID xenon (4300K) just for the fog lamps (H8). Do you think its a practical thing to do? I understand 4300K should be almost equal to the OE fog lamps. I will go for a 100/90 Halogen setup for the headlamps. Any indicative prices for getting the HID in the foglamps done? Its not for the bling factor as I am looking towards practicality. Any members who already have a HID setup in the Swift Foglamps? Need advise on this.... Last edited by dreamdiesel : 28th August 2009 at 02:30.
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28th August 2009, 09:04	#3238
beejay Senior - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: The Nilgiris Posts: 1,968 Thanked: 213 Times View My Garage	Rs.18500 for 240 Blitz in Bangalore. Comes with 3 colors of extra covers, blue, yellow and red. As far as I have understood these lights are extremely strong. Polycarbonate shield makes it shatterproof and very light. Care has to be taken on making the clamps as the lights tend to shake if not fixed right. Original wiring harness alone costs 4500. Yet the lights can be fixed with a direct connection excluding the harness, however the warranty goes void in that case. @technocrat, I do not understand how this thread has been moved to the 4x4 technical section. Light force lamps are a common sight on cars too. @bigman, Amar and Allan are the only guys here who I have seen sporing these lamps. Last edited by beejay : 28th August 2009 at 09:06. Reason: @bigman.
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28th August 2009, 09:37	#3240
beejay Senior - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: The Nilgiris Posts: 1,968 Thanked: 213 Times View My Garage	Are these lightforce? I have never seen this model.
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