Auto Lighting thread : Post all queries about automobile lighting here

paras211 · 1st March 2007, 16:33

6000 and under is whitish 6500 purple above that is blinding blue

CHIP · 1st March 2007, 21:45

6000 K is pure white my civic lights

6000k it looks like blue in image but it is white true..

mail4ajo · 3rd March 2007, 00:42

I had converted to the Philips Rallye 100/90W in December with proper relay, wiring and holders. Recently the high beam of the right headlight blew off.

I have heard the bulbs are pretty reliable. What would have made them blow so fast? What do I need to check?

nitrous · 3rd March 2007, 00:53

Philips rallye are not that reliable,ajo!
I've had 4 or 5 bulbs blow in just 2 years.

hellstar · 5th March 2007, 15:55

I am running on 100W/130W philip rally bulbs with the proper ceramic holders and wiring kit for the past three years without a single change on my Alto Lxi with no probelms what so ever... maybe you should suspect the authenticity of the bulbs that you got ...

I have even added the same setup to my New Verna CRdi ! and no problems till now , got the installation done from Trivadrum , shop called Car Palace.

abhibh · 5th March 2007, 16:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by mail4ajo

I had converted to the Philips Rallye 100/90W in December with proper relay, wiring and holders. Recently the high beam of the right headlight blew off.

I have heard the bulbs are pretty reliable. What would have made them blow so fast? What do I need to check?

I was just going through the Philips Crystal Vision Review and TSK clearly mentioned there that getting 100/90W with relay u have to be careful. As they will blow easily. So its better to stick to 60/50W...

moralfibre · 5th March 2007, 16:19

We upgraded stock Osram 55/60W H1 and H7 bulbs to 100W H1 and 80W H7 on Determinus' GTX. The dealer said that we do not require a relay since it works well without it. I would like you guys to suggest if we should still insist on a relay?

novatekcorp · 5th March 2007, 17:22

Pl check at Raj Auto Lampsat lamington road, Mumbai for Hella H1+30, fantastic performance. Is available for Rs 120 per No.

mail4ajo · 5th March 2007, 17:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by nitrous

Philips rallye are not that reliable,ajo!
I've had 4 or 5 bulbs blow in just 2 years.

1. What do you currently use?
2. How do I verify if the bulb is original?
3. Is this really a bulb issue or something to do with the electrical setup?

tsk1979 · 5th March 2007, 19:55

High power bulbs blow due to these reasons
1. Fake Bulbs : This affects philips since its the most common bulb, so buy from a reliable shop.
2. High low together : Many cars let you use high low beams together, by pulling the stalk towards you when on low beam. For 60/55W it is okay, for 100/90W you can blow a bulb.
3. Alternator fault : Is your alternator giving over voltage. Check at the headlamp terminals. Disconnect the bulb, switch on and then put a voltmeter, should not go above 12.5 or so, but this is usually not the cause, happens in extreme cases as most bulbs have slight overvoltage tolerance built in, if they are of good quality

chanapli · 5th March 2007, 20:01

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Originally Posted by tsk1979

2. High low together : Many cars let you use high low beams together, by pulling the stalk towards you when on low beam. For 60/55W it is okay, for 100/90W you can blow a bulb.

That is really an eye opener to me. I never knew that by pulling the liver towards us will glow low and high beam together. Actually I dont do myself. I allways toggle. But this friend of mine does that often.

hydrashok · 5th March 2007, 21:06

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Originally Posted by chanapli

That is really an eye opener to me. I never knew that by pulling the liver towards us will glow low and high beam together. Actually I dont do myself. I allways toggle. But this friend of mine does that often.

I guess for a very short period of say a couple of seconds this will not be an issue? And some cars like the Palio have separate High and Low bulbs and this won't affect them. Problem is when the high & low are in the same unit?

mail4ajo · 5th March 2007, 21:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by tsk1979

1. Fake Bulbs : This affects philips since its the most common bulb, so buy from a reliable shop.

Does Philips retail these bulbs here? The pack that I got said made in Germany

Quote:

Originally Posted by tsk1979

2. High low together : Many cars let you use high low beams together, by pulling the stalk towards you when on low beam. For 60/55W it is okay, for 100/90W you can blow a bulb.

I received feedback on the forum that its ok to use this method on Alto. Could be a reason for the blow off. Will stop this method at once.

Quote:

Originally Posted by tsk1979

3. Alternator fault : Is your alternator giving over voltage. Check at the headlamp terminals. Disconnect the bulb, switch on and then put a voltmeter, should not go above 12.5 or so,

Need to check this at my service center. But isn't the relay supposed to be doing its job?

abhibh · 5th March 2007, 22:19

Ok so whats the best way for bulb upgrades ? Are there any after market bulbs which can be used without hassle and without wiring and relay + have bright light than the OEM's one ?

vivekkr_99 · 5th March 2007, 23:09

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Originally Posted by hellstar

I am running on 100W/130W philip rally bulbs with the proper ceramic holders and wiring kit for the past three years without a single change on my Alto Lxi with no probelms what so ever... maybe you should suspect the authenticity of the bulbs that you got ...

I have even added the same setup to my New Verna CRdi ! and no problems till now , got the installation done from Trivadrum , shop called Car Palace.

Hi Hellstar, if you do the headlight wiring from outside, will it void the standard warranty?? Is it better to do the wiring from the hyundai service centre??
I'm also planning for headlight upgrade, where is this Car Palace located?

1st March 2007, 16:33	#241
paras211 BHPian Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: mumbai Posts: 648 Thanked: 118 Times View My Garage	6000 and under is whitish 6500 purple above that is blinding blue
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1st March 2007, 21:45	#242
CHIP BHPian Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: lUDHIANA,PUNJAB Posts: 62 Thanked: 0 Times View My Garage	6000 K is pure white my civic lights 6000k it looks like blue in image but it is white true..
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3rd March 2007, 00:42	#243
mail4ajo Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 1,957 Thanked: 333 Times View My Garage	I had converted to the Philips Rallye 100/90W in December with proper relay, wiring and holders. Recently the high beam of the right headlight blew off. I have heard the bulbs are pretty reliable. What would have made them blow so fast? What do I need to check?
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3rd March 2007, 00:53	#244
nitrous Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2004 Location: UAE/Lon/Madras Posts: 6,965 Thanked: 332 Times View My Garage	Philips rallye are not that reliable,ajo! I've had 4 or 5 bulbs blow in just 2 years.
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5th March 2007, 15:55	#245
hellstar Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,073 Thanked: 44 Times	Philips Fan! I am running on 100W/130W philip rally bulbs with the proper ceramic holders and wiring kit for the past three years without a single change on my Alto Lxi with no probelms what so ever... maybe you should suspect the authenticity of the bulbs that you got ... I have even added the same setup to my New Verna CRdi ! and no problems till now , got the installation done from Trivadrum , shop called Car Palace.
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5th March 2007, 16:19	#247
moralfibre Team-BHP Support Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: MH-12 Posts: 8,515 Thanked: 14,156 Times	We upgraded stock Osram 55/60W H1 and H7 bulbs to 100W H1 and 80W H7 on Determinus' GTX. The dealer said that we do not require a relay since it works well without it. I would like you guys to suggest if we should still insist on a relay?
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5th March 2007, 17:22	#248
novatekcorp Newbie Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: THANE Posts: 4 Thanked: 0 Times	HeadLights Pl check at Raj Auto Lampsat lamington road, Mumbai for Hella H1+30, fantastic performance. Is available for Rs 120 per No.
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5th March 2007, 19:55	#250
tsk1979 Team-BHP Support Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 23,730 Thanked: 23,287 Times View My Garage	High power bulbs blow due to these reasons 1. Fake Bulbs : This affects philips since its the most common bulb, so buy from a reliable shop. 2. High low together : Many cars let you use high low beams together, by pulling the stalk towards you when on low beam. For 60/55W it is okay, for 100/90W you can blow a bulb. 3. Alternator fault : Is your alternator giving over voltage. Check at the headlamp terminals. Disconnect the bulb, switch on and then put a voltmeter, should not go above 12.5 or so, but this is usually not the cause, happens in extreme cases as most bulbs have slight overvoltage tolerance built in, if they are of good quality
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5th March 2007, 22:19	#254
abhibh Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Back in the HOOD near you! Posts: 2,769 Thanked: 39 Times	Ok so whats the best way for bulb upgrades ? Are there any after market bulbs which can be used without hassle and without wiring and relay + have bright light than the OEM's one ?
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