Dyno facility in mumbai.... Finally !!

veyron1 · 13th July 2007, 20:02

At last. Neat, Karan.

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Originally Posted by V-16

I presume its a Chassis Dyno!!

Yes, it is...

Although it's a 2-wheel dyno (what happens to the EVO's, GTO's Impreza's, etc....?), it should go a long way in putting some famed claims to rest..

Wonder if Supras could be dyno'ed on this one...I'm presuming this 2 wheel dyno's caliberation would be restricted...

But then again, any dyno is only as good as it's governing software...

nitrous · 13th July 2007, 20:24

Atul, How are U telling that its a 2-wheel dyno??

zeeshan suleman · 13th July 2007, 20:25

Hey Karan congrats buddy, Finally something reliable on which we can test all those nicely tuned cars.

1100D · 13th July 2007, 20:30

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Originally Posted by nitrous

Atul, How are U telling that its a 2-wheel dyno??

The rear wheels of the City are on flat ground (not on rollers), thats how.

merve_extreme · 13th July 2007, 20:47

well we had dynos for motorbikes at bajaj probike showrooms for quite sometime and now one for cars.Very nice

Are there dynos in any Mercedes,Honda,Toyota.... showrooms or service centers?

mclaren1885 · 14th July 2007, 00:10

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Originally Posted by veyron1

But then again, any dyno is only as good as it's governing software...

Well said.

Karan, so is the dyno setup with all the zillion parameters it comes with and the calibrations? What were the difficulties involved in setting up the dyno? How about some figures of stock Indian cars to start off with? That would give us a true indication of company claimed figures.

Nitrous, it is a two wheeled dyno. Since only two wheels are on the rollers while the other two aren't.

Merve, all the manufacturing companies have dyno's. Both rolling and engine dyno's. Though none of the showrooms have one. Nor are these available for the public.

Mugen_Power · 14th July 2007, 00:12

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Originally Posted by merve_extreme

Are there dynos in any Mercedes,Honda,Toyota.... showrooms or service centers?

I havent seen any at Mercedes, Skoda or Toyota workshops.

1100D · 14th July 2007, 03:27

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Originally Posted by mclaren1885

How about some figures of stock Indian cars to start off with? That would give us a true indication of company claimed figures.

Mostly company specified figures are the figures at the engine driveshaft, rather than at the wheels. So there will always be a difference. Even calculating the figures after accounting for the axle ratio and the gear ratio would not take into account the frictional loading. Anyway it will be nice to check the at-the-wheel figures of comparable cars for comparison.

v1p3r · 14th July 2007, 03:29

No workshop will have a dyno, but you can bet your behind every factory floor will have a dozen engine dynos, with airconditioned and ventilated chambers.

ananthkamath · 14th July 2007, 07:39

Factory floors wont have engine dynos , only R&D does.

veyron1 · 14th July 2007, 11:12

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Originally Posted by 1100D

Mostly company specified figures are the figures at the engine driveshaft, rather than at the wheels.

Actually, ALL manufacturers quote SAE HP/Kw at crank. Now, Pferdestarke is becoming the industry standard, just because it bumps up the numbers. Gah. 10 watts.

Technically, WHP is about 12% off the crank, for FWD's. About 15-18 for RWD's & AWD's. VERY vague variations, but still; pointless here, as the caliberation at dyno considers parameters such as slippage, roller inertia, blah blah...

Maybe I'm going bonkers. Ignorance is bliss.

Kudos to Karan for putting his money where his mouth is. I'd like to see some of the famed tuners do the same. Ah, Rome wasn't built in a day, eh...

jesal · 14th July 2007, 11:47

wicked dyno is in so KS what are all ur car figures like, which cars have gone on that dyno lets hear the figures now mate. if anyone has got their cars done post the figures then too

Jay · 14th July 2007, 14:28

Congrats on the dyno Karan, could we have figures of few of the cars that have been tested on it already...

v1p3r · 14th July 2007, 21:45

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Originally Posted by ananthkamath

Factory floors wont have engine dynos , only R&D does.

I'm reliably informed that some of India's top manufacturers test engines from each batch/production period to ensure compliance with their stated outputs. Whether that would be the work of R&D, or would occur on the factory floor, I wasn't informed.

1100D · 14th July 2007, 23:03

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Originally Posted by veyron1

Kudos to Karan for putting his money where his mouth is. I'd like to see some of the famed tuners do the same. Ah, Rome wasn't built in a day, eh...

No doubts about that, this indeed is a very positive move. We can have the before and after readings to see what the Gizmos are doing and where.

However point I was trying to make was that it is futile to compare the readings of stock cars with that claimed by manufacturers, they will never match!

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v1p3r Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: BLR / DXB / LON Posts: 5,355 Thanked: 7,294 Times View My Garage	No workshop will have a dyno, but you can bet your behind every factory floor will have a dozen engine dynos, with airconditioned and ventilated chambers.
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