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Old 22nd August 2023, 21:52   #601
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Re: My PPF Journey

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I was certainly concerned quite a bit about the installer removing the door handles, panels, the BMW roundel etc.
These are valid concerns and if you are waiting at detailing place when they are removing handles/bumper on a brand new car , it will be super painful to watch

One thing that might help is usually the dealer will have tie ups and though they will take some premium, they do send technicians from their own work shop to detailing place to remove parts and re-attach once PPF is applied. That way, chances of something going wrong is low.

Also, we should be a bit careful for a brand new model if detailing guys are going to remove parts themselves as they may not have right expertise
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Old 24th August 2023, 19:26   #602
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Re: Paint Protection Film (PPF)

Hi, I'm planning to get PPFfor my new car. These are the offers that I have received.

XPEL Ultimate - 1,75,000

Saint Gobain Hydro Plus - 1,47,000

Bull Armour Performance Series - 1,36,000

Since, I have not seen many comparison videos of the Saint Gobain and Bull Armour PPF, just wanted some guidance from Team-BHP community on which brand to go for here.

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Old 27th August 2023, 09:35   #603
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Since, I have not seen many comparison videos of the Saint Gobain and Bull Armour PPF, just wanted some guidance from Team-BHP community on which brand to go for here.
Hi Seatosky

What's the brand of your car? Have you checked for prices in Delhi? At that price what is the warranty and additional services you are getting? Often it's the after-sales and warranty that come into play in the final decision. As a case in point, one of my car's PPF has a three year guarantee and the film can be replaced with no questions asked.

In my experience, Saint Gobain is a good option. Have you researched other brands i.e., Garware, etc?

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Also, we should be a bit careful for a brand new model if detailing guys are going to remove parts themselves as they may not have right expertise
Agree with Neel, had a heart stopping experience with my new Thar and its monograms and lights. Had to re-visit the detailer a few times.

My learning, we don't meddle with the original fittings rather get the detailers to spend some more time working around the fittings to attain the finesse you are seeking. This may be initially time consuming (for both you and detailer) but beneficial for you in the long run.

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Hi

Thank you for sharing your experience. I am taking delivery of an X5 later this month and was considering a PPF application from Wheel Force Studio.
Have used their services a year or so ago. The job was good, but wasn't very comfortable with them removing the car parts for complete filming. My experience, the filming can be equally well done or near to (perfection) without removing the parts. The important aspect being the experience of the detailing individual working on your car that day. Also comes into play is the design/shape of the car being detailed. In your case, it should be a straight forward job, even without removing the car parts. All the best.

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Re: Paint Protection Film (PPF)

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Since, I have not seen many comparison videos of the Saint Gobain and Bull Armour PPF, just wanted some guidance from Team-BHP community on which brand to go for here.
I got Bull Armour Performance series installed on my Tucson 3 months ago. If you don't want instant healing PPF & are ok with regular self-healing one (which heals with heat - like when its under the Sun) then you can look at other Bull Armour variant that Detailing Bull has. I was quoted about 85k for it, so its a 50k difference there.

Another difference between regular & performance series (other than instant vs self-healing & price) is the warranty. On the regular Bull Armour they give abt 5 yrs warranty, on Performance series its abt 10 yrs warranty.

In hindsight, I think the regular self-healing PPF would've been better for me & I didn't really need to get performance series installed.

So if you do decide to go with them, get the demo of both, check both & then decide which one you want on your car.
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Old 28th August 2023, 10:39   #605
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Re: Paint Protection Film (PPF)

Hi Fellow Petrolheads,

I am so happy to be part of the team BHP community now.

I am in the process of buying a Tata Harrier XAZ+) red dark edition. I have done my pdi as per the guidelines shared on the forum and now waiting for my loan to clear. I have a point which is troubling me for some time now. I have a rambunctious german shepherd. She is very active and likes to jump on the car doors when she sees we are about to go on a drive(Our old indica vista now looks like a zebra ). Now I am planning to set up a rule in house to let her come near the car after wearing proper boots to protect the car from the scratches, but I am still worried about the inevitable nail marks on my car. I have been reading a lot about protecting paint work of the car, but then I have not received a concrete guidance on it. Here is what I have considered:

1) Do nothing, have the doggo wear shoes near the car and cover the interiors with dog cover.
2) Get a ceramic coating, I have not obtained a quote from a detailing shop but assuming it be in around 35 K max based on reading
3) Get full body PPF for the car, I have actually spoken to a few dealers and they have given a quote for Garware PPF(5 years warranty) which ranges between 85k to 1.3 K including GST.

Now the question, given that we are planning on adopting another dog in next few months, what would you all suggest based upon your experience. Does the PPF actually protect against the dog nail scratches or it is just the waste of money?
Any fellow BHPians who are in the same boat?

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Old 28th August 2023, 15:27   #606
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Hi Guys,

I have booked the Slavia and it will be tentatively delivered to me in mid Sep 2023.

In the meanwhile, I was researching about PPF and its advantages and came across this wonderful thread here. Thanks for all the information provided by the members, it was indeed very insightful.

I have more or less shortlisted 3 guys for the whole body PPF.

1) Detailing Dons Kharghar, Navi Mumbai
Garware premium (180 plus microns) PPF 5 year warranty : INR 90000
Spoke to Junaid here and he explained the whole process in detail and answered all my queries patiently and top me that the whole process will take 2-3 days.

2) Optimum Detailerz Chembur, Mumbai :
Garware premium (180 plus microns) PPF 5 year warranty : INR 129000.

Stek Shield effect 5 years warranty : INR 164000.

Mr Amol spoke at length to me on Monday that was a day off for him in detail again. He explained the whole process very patiently and explained the process in detail via a whatsapp message also. He appeared to be honest about PPF and answered all my query very diligently. Appeared to have expert domain knowledge too.

3) 3M Car Care, Seawoods, Navi Mumbai : 3M inhouse 100 series 7 year warranty: INR 155000 /-

I am regular here since the last 2 years for my car detailing every quarter and I am quite satisfied with their service.

I have understood the benefits of ppf and I am in the process of convincing myself with the cost-benefit analysis.

I find 3M to be on the expensive side. Anyone in this forum has an experience with 3m PPF especially the new ones i.e. TPU 100/200 series? If so, how has the experience been?

Optimum Detailerz has quite a few mentions here in our Forum and from what I have read, they do a fantastic job at the same. The only negatives is higher price vis -a-vis Detailing Dons and the longer time of 7 days. Though he did mention that he will do some interior detailing in the amount he has mentioned. I was confused as to what sort of interior detailing has to be done in a new car.

I have read a review of Detailing Dons here on our forum and have a friend's reference for them too and both have high regards for their work too.

Can anyone help me in shortlisting between Detailing Dons and Optimum Detailerz? The cost difference is nearly 40000 rupees which is significant.


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Re: Paint Protection Film (PPF)

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Hi, I'm planning to get PPFfor my new car. These are the offers that I have received.

XPEL Ultimate - 1,75,000

Saint Gobain Hydro Plus - 1,47,000

Bull Armour Performance Series - 1,36,000

Since, I have not seen many comparison videos of the Saint Gobain and Bull Armour PPF, just wanted some guidance from Team-BHP community on which brand to go for here.

Thanks
I have recently managed to obtain information about the dealer pricing for XPEL Ultimate Plus paint protection film. A friend of mine within the industry shared this insight with me. I was quite surprised to discover the substantial profit margin that this business commands, with the cost being set at Rs.450 per square foot, including GST. Typically, a single roll, covering about 250 square feet, is sufficient for most larger cars.

It's intriguing to observe the premium associated with this industry. The application of paint protection film is often outsourced, even by seasoned professionals, to specialized agencies. The cost for this service averages around Rs.15,000 per car plus cost involved in doing preparatory work like sanding compounding as per condition of car ( Rs.8000 per car if the car is new)

One noteworthy aspect is that paint protection film, regardless of the brand, is exclusively invoiced to detailing studios. It seems impractical to attempt direct procurement of the material. Interestingly, the pricing for both Llumar Valour and XPEL Ultimate Plus is identical.

These revelations shed light on the intricate dynamics within the detailing and automotive protection sector. The pricing structures reflect not only the premium nature of the products but also the specialized skill set required for proper application. Should you be considering paint protection for your vehicle, thorough research into various brands and quotes from reputable detailing studios would be prudent.

I am sure this information would help the forum in negotiating better cost /product from detailer.
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Re: Paint Protection Film (PPF)

Hi all

I wanted to understand if internal panel protection is same as PPF? If not, is internal panel protection helpful or any thread that discusses about this?
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Old 30th August 2023, 12:16   #611
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Hello,

Has anyone had any experience dealing with or getting their PPF done from Esperto Car Care in Koramangala, Bangalore? They were recommended to me by a BMW SA.

They have shared pictures of their work and claim to be dealing with most luxury cars. I spoke to one of their partners - they have shared quotes for my new BMW 3GL and I was looking for some first-hand experience.

I would appreciate it if any of the fellow BHPians from Bangalore have encountered or taken the services of Esperto Car Care for PPF-related services and could share their experience.

Also, is there any preference in going for Bremen, Hexis, or Xpel brands for TPU self-healing non-yellowing PPF?

Esperto website - https://esperto.in/
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Now the question, given that we are planning on adopting another dog in next few months, what would you all suggest based upon your experience. Does the PPF actually protect against the dog nail scratches or it is just the waste of money?
Any fellow BHPians who are in the same boat?

Thanks,
Mandar
Hi Mandar,

I too have a furry kid. My previous car had these nail marks too. Some were deep ones that wouldn't go with a polish too and some went away with some wax and polish.

These marks are more prominent on darker colours. Hence I would suggest to go for the Garware 5 year warranty ppf. This way you save your car from such scratches and also don't have to restrain your furry kids. Win-win situation

I am too planning to get the garware ppf that would cost me below a lakh. Atleast for 3-4 years we are sorted with a ppf on the new car.
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SA is pushing me to get SGard PPF. Anyone has any experience with it?
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Hi Mandar,

I too have a furry kid. My previous car had these nail marks too. Some were deep ones that wouldn't go with a polish too and some went away with some wax and polish.

These marks are more prominent on darker colours. Hence I would suggest to go for the Garware 5 year warranty ppf. This way you save your car from such scratches and also don't have to restrain your furry kids. Win-win situation

I am too planning to get the garware ppf that would cost me below a lakh. Atleast for 3-4 years we are sorted with a ppf on the new car.

Thanks Alok, I finally decided to go for PPF. I was able to get the Garware Premium with 5 years warranty + Ceramic coating for windshields and lamps at 85 K(inclusive of GST). Collected the car today, overall satisfied with the PPF.
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The only benefit is it can stop minor rock chips/moderate scratches, it’s still useless against larger impacts or dents. With newer ceramic coatings coming in which are much thicker at 20+ microns, I find it increasingly difficult to make the case for PPF. (For reference your factory clearcoat is around 50-55 microns thick on most cars.)
Can you please share which coating is this thick?
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