[Roark]

Originally Posted by Roark

And my 2nd post here. Not that I am keeping track ;-)
So, looking to do a PPF on my new Black Creta SXO Diesel MT (yet to get my hands on it, though). Dealer says early next week, whew!

Wanted to do a complete PPF on the car, perhaps with the idea that the car will remain with me till the end.

A follow-up to the above post.
Getting my PPF'ed car today. Just about a day back, Amol (Optimum Detailerz) send me a detailed note on how to / how not to wash the car with the PPF on.

I must say it was a detailed note and he gave me links to all the items to be bought online to have a clean, swirl-free, streak-free wash for the car. All good till about here.
Next note was on how to go about washing the car. A detailed method on what to and what not to do to wash the car. (Will add the note, here if required and requested by somebody)

In Mumbai, firstly there is very little space around the car to get it cleaned by self (though I have a covered garage). On top of it, these detailed instructions to Bhaiyya i.e. car cleaner guy would be like a Thomo's fast delivery to a hapless batsman - right over the top.
Bhaiyya knows only one way - a dirty looking rag, dipped in water and sploshing it on the car - anywhere. Perhaps, the view is that too much water is good for the car.

No wonder, my earlier car had major issues with the power windows. The car being old, the holding seal was a bit loose and all the water to travel down to the power windows assembly and like clock-work precision the windows would give us grief in about a year's time.

So to the nub of this post. Do all the car owners who have their car PPF'ed carry out a precision method of cleaning the car?
Or a normal cleaning (of course not by splashing a lot of water on the windows) would suffice.
Does a PPF car need some kind of different method of washing/cleaning? I plan not to hand over the car to the cleaner to wash. Am planning to do it myself, perhaps once a fortnight for complete wet wash, otherwise every other day a no rinse wash should suffice.

Any views?

[neel911]

Originally Posted by Roark

So to the nub of this post. Do all the car owners who have their car PPF'ed carry out a precision method of cleaning the car?
Or a normal cleaning (of course not by splashing a lot of water on the windows) would suffice.
Does a PPF car need some kind of different method of washing/cleaning? I plan not to hand over the car to the cleaner to wash. Am planning to do it myself, perhaps once a fortnight for complete wet wash, otherwise every other day a no rinse wash should suffice.

Any views?

I have PPF installed on my car and have ensured the 'Bhaiya'/apartment car cleaning guy does not touch it. I take it out for wash once a month (taken a package) and rest of the time, just use jopasu duster and/or waterless wash.

The challenge is during monsoon where car gets really dirty and you cannot use jopasu nor wait for month to take it outside for wash.

Though I have invested in cleaning kit, challenge is access to water in an apartment community basement and power source.

Earlier I thought that post PPF I can give to the apartment car wash guy but that is not the case

[amitgupta]

Originally Posted by Roark

So to the nub of this post. Do all the car owners who have their car PPF'ed carry out a precision method of cleaning the car?

I don't. I've previously bought car cleaning kits & all but I've never gotten around to using it & I've realised over the years its just not practical for me to even think I could find the time (& will) to do it.

Originally Posted by Roark

Or a normal cleaning (of course not by splashing a lot of water on the windows) would suffice.

A normal wipe down suffices. I've instructed my car cleaner to clean my car before any other using clean water & just wipe down the dust etc. & do nothing else. For that I offered him double the money he charged earlier & he's happy to do it.

I've also accepted that no matter how much he tries (or not) there will be some swirls etc. For that, take your car out for a professional wash & rub-down once every month or every other month.

Originally Posted by Roark

Does a PPF car need some kind of different method of washing/cleaning? I plan not to hand over the car to the cleaner to wash. Am planning to do it myself, perhaps once a fortnight for complete wet wash, otherwise every other day a no rinse wash should suffice.

Depends where you park it. If you have covered parking then just a dry wipe with a microfiber cloth/duster on a daily basis is enough with once a month water wash.

[3rdAttempt]

Hi Guys!! Excited to share that we just booked a Skoda Kushaq Matte edition today and expecting delivery within a week post all formalities.

Ive been thinking about whether I should get PPF done on the car. Its a matte black paint and will be used mostly for city driving in Mumbai. I think we will use the car for 3-5 years.

After going through many conversations in this thread I spoke to a few recommended detailers in Mumbai and got quotes ranging from near 85000 to near 2 lakhs.

I also found out that Blaupunkt has recently got into the ppf market and I was wondering if anyone has any experience with Blaupunkt ppf and can share feedback?

Many thanks!

[mgastor2022grey]

Originally Posted by 3rdAttempt

Hi Guys!! Excited to share that we just booked a Skoda Kushaq Matte edition today and expecting delivery within a week post all formalities.

Hi @3rdAttempt, congrats as this is your first post! hope you have happy miles, or to be true, 'smiles', in your Kushaq's journey. Wishing you and your family a hearty congrats once again. But do you know what you missed to mention? A pic of your car after delivery!

Please do share that, we would love to see your beauty!

[amitgupta]

Originally Posted by 3rdAttempt

Ive been thinking about whether I should get PPF done on the car. Its a matte black paint and will be used mostly for city driving in Mumbai. I think we will use the car for 3-5 years.

After going through many conversations in this thread I spoke to a few recommended detailers in Mumbai and got quotes ranging from near 85000 to near 2 lakhs.

Only you can decide whether you should get PPF installed on your car or not. If you do decide to go for it, decide on your budget & look for options within that.

IMO spending 2 lacs on PPF for Kushaq is not worth it. But then its not my car or money - they are both yours.

Originally Posted by 3rdAttempt

I also found out that Blaupunkt has recently got into the ppf market and I was wondering if anyone has any experience with Blaupunkt ppf and can share feedback?

I'd advise to not go for Blaupunkt. They are too new. They also famously got into dashcam market & produced rather feeble products.

In PPF most good detailing shops have almost similar product. Its the workmanship which matters more after that. So look out for that as well.

[3rdAttempt]

Originally Posted by amitgupta

Only you can decide whether you should get PPF installed on your car or not. If you do decide to go for it, decide on your budget & look for options within that.

IMO spending 2 lacs on PPF for Kushaq is not worth it. But then its not my car or money - they are both yours.



I'd advise to not go for Blaupunkt. They are too new. They also famously got into dashcam market & produced rather feeble products.

In PPF most good detailing shops have almost similar product. Its the workmanship which matters more after that. So look out for that as well.

Thanks @amitgupta for your advise! The showroom has offered to do a Durashield PPF for 1.35L with a 5 year warranty. The showroom also offers to do door linings, and bumpers for around 10k. Im worried with this part PPF, there might be dust collection/bubbling on the edges.
Apparently Matte finish cars are harder to maintain and fix in case of small scratches.

[AJ56]

Originally Posted by Roark

Just about a day back, Amol (Optimum Detailerz) send me a detailed note on how to / how not to wash the car with the PPF on.


So to the nub of this post. Do all the car owners who have their car PPF'ed carry out a precision method of cleaning the car?
Or a normal cleaning (of course not by splashing a lot of water on the windows) would suffice.
Does a PPF car need some kind of different method of washing/cleaning? I plan not to hand over the car to the cleaner to wash. Am planning to do it myself, perhaps once a fortnight for complete wet wash, otherwise every other day a no rinse wash should suffice.

Any views?

Follow his instructions precisely, I’m sure it’ll cover points like contactless rinsing and not using dusters/waterless wash methods to avoid swirls and marring.

If using a foam cannon, follow the multi mitt method and use an air blower for drying, do not wipe, just dab with a microfibre if you have drips.

PPF doesn’t need anything special, these points about safe washing apply to any car, be it untreated, ceramic coated or PPF or even PPF with ceramic over it. Do not let the daily cleaner near it, he can cause major damage in just a few days.

If you’re in a hurry, just use water from the pressure washer + air to do a quick rinse and dry. This takes under 15 mins. No need to do a foam wash every day or even every week, depending on where you live.

[amitgupta]

Originally Posted by 3rdAttempt

I JUST got back from the showroom - had asked to do an inspection pre-registration/disbursing payment.
I was disappointed to see that the alloy wheels and tyres were not the same as the one showed to me in the display vehicle.

As per the sales advisor, they recently received update that there would be a change in the wheels and that going forward all these Kushaqs would have these wheels.

Things can change between what you see in showroom on display & what you get if you are not getting the car right away. Had they swapped the wheels out after they got your vehicle then that would've been shady & a scam because any policy change etc. like this cannot be applied retroactively or at dealer level. These things have to come from the company as is. Dealer cannot change out parts on the product they've received because the company will be changing them out in near future.

Originally Posted by 3rdAttempt

The showroom has offered to do a Durashield PPF for 1.35L with a 5 year warranty.

Price is still high. Negotiate, see if you can bring them down to ~1 lac or less. If not, look for options outside. Showrooms charge unnecessary markup in the name of "official" work.

PPF is not something which voids your warranty - so there should be no hesitation to look for best possible deal.

Originally Posted by 3rdAttempt

Im worried with this part PPF, there might be dust collection/bubbling on the edges.

Yes there can be if workmanship is poor. That's why I said workmanship matters a lot in this case.

Professionals tuck the edges in, so that the installation is better, the finish is better and if any dust collects on the edges then it doesn't show up on the visible surface.

Amateurs (pretending to be pros) just cut up the film panels right on the outside visible surface at the panel edges (because its easy & quick to do). Any dust etc that gets collected can become visible on the visible surface of the car after some time.

Originally Posted by 3rdAttempt

Apparently Matte finish cars are harder to maintain and fix in case of small scratches.

None of the finishes are easy to maintain. Do you think gloss finish is easy to maintain?

Originally Posted by 3rdAttempt

I've attached the picture for your reference. Doesn't it feel like a proper downgrade?

If the wheel on left is older one & the one on right is what they're giving now then yes I concur, it does look like a downgrade. The one on left looks better both in terms of design & finish.

Originally Posted by mgastor2022grey

Wow, that's not expected from Skoda, a premium brand (atleast that's what I thought till now!).

Skoda is not a premium brand & neither is Volkswagen. They are mass market car makers just like Suzuki, Hyundai, Toyota etc.

This time around atleast they swapped out a part in a product line at company level. Skoda workshops have been notorious of swapping out customers' car parts while the said cars have been given to them for servicing.

[mgastor2022grey]

Originally Posted by amitgupta

Skoda is not a premium brand & neither is Volkswagen. They are mass market car makers just like Suzuki, Hyundai, Toyota etc.

By premium, I meant that they offer good cars at reasonable prices, their product lineup is good and their cars are classy. I do know that they are common people's cars, but driving a Skoda or a Volkswagen meant a completely different level of stag around 5-6 years ago. I agree, their ASS is not good, but trust me, that is not a factor with what you decide your cars with

[amitgupta]

Originally Posted by mgastor2022grey

I meant that they offer good cars at reasonable prices, their product lineup is good and their cars are classy.

So do others like Honda, Toyota, Ford, Hyundai, etc. It doesn't mean they are premium brands.

Originally Posted by mgastor2022grey

I agree, their ASS is not good, but trust me, that is not a factor with what you decide your cars with

To each his own dude. I for one do weigh the After Sales Service of the company when deciding whether to buy cars from them or not. To me its equally important as car's reliability. I don't like putting down 40-50 lacs or more on a car from a company which is going to give me headaches & nightmares with their service.

But like I said, to each his own!

[Riddler]

Originally Posted by cybergeek

Boss and Wagons Kalyan Nagar, Bangalore Review

I researched several professional PPF studios to protect my new Hyundai i20 N Line and ultimately chose Boss and Wagons in Kalyan Nagar, Bangalore. They specialize in PPF and Ceramic Coatings and are authorized dealers for brands such as STEK, Xpel, Avery Dennison, Nar, Llumar, Teckwrap, and OptiCoat.

During my consultation with the owner, I was provided with an overview of the pros and cons of different PPF brands. Based on his guidance, I decided to have my i20 N Line fully wrapped with Avery Dennison Optima PPF and OptiCoat Ceramic Coating on the interiors and non-PPF surfaces. The skilled workers at Boss and Wagons also installed LLumar 70% sun film on all windows.

The installation process was done meticulously with the removal of plastic beadings and lights for a neat finish. I was able to observe the work being done and I am extremely pleased with the fantastic look of my car. The water just beads away, making maintenance effortless. Boss and Wagons has also offered complimentary check-ups during the PPF's 5-year warranty period.
I highly recommend Boss and Wagons and their owner Shafik for any PPF, Ceramic Coating, Vinyl Wrap, or Sun film requirements for your vehicle. They offer options for various budgets and requirements.

Disclaimer: I’m not associated with this studio.

Photos of my vehicle are attached.

https://bossandwagons.com/

Google Maps location:
https://goo.gl/maps/H3QLNHv6g67kCuu69

Amazing wrap! And congratulations on your ride! I stay in Kalyan nagar and have been observing Boss and Wagons for a year now.
I am to get the nLine N8 in a month or so and would love to get the wrap done at the same place.
Could you tell me the cost of the wrap and how many days it took?
I know they remove the tail lights, door handles and what not to get a clean and neat look, did they do it for your car too? Did you happen to review that when they were doing it?

[powertrain]

Originally Posted by Roark

A follow-up to the above post.
Getting my PPF'ed car today. Just about a day back, Amol (Optimum Detailerz) send me a detailed note on how to / how not to wash the car with the PPF on.

I must say it was a detailed note and he gave me links to all the items to be bought online to have a clean, swirl-free, streak-free wash for the car. All good till about here.
Next note was on how to go about washing the car. A detailed method on what to and what not to do to wash the car. (Will add the note, here if required and requested by somebody)

Hello Roark!

Can you put up both the notes here, for everyone's benefit?!
I'm sure it'll help a lot of people here. I'm planning to install PPF on my car too!

Thanks in advance

Powertrain!

[Roark]

Originally Posted by powertrain

Hello Roark!

Can you put up both the notes here, for everyone's benefit?!
I'm sure it'll help a lot of people here. I'm planning to install PPF on my car too!

Thanks in advance

Powertrain!

Consolidated the thoughts that were put forth by Amol Chitre.

If I understand it correctly ONR is Optimum No Rise Concentrate (costs an arm and a leg on Amazon)
So in effect it is a No Rinse Concentrate which is mixed with water which then can be used for a No Rinse Wash. There is a similar one on Amazon called Proklear Dry Wash Concentrate (which is reasonable)

[Mr Anderson]

Does anyone have an idea about motoglanz ppf. I talked to a local detailer who said he uses motoglanz ppf for detailing with 5 year warranty and will charge 85000/- for my kia seltos. I searched it online and found a website called car cosmic selling it.