Engine swap/Performance mods in Lancer

devarshi84 · 21st March 2011, 15:09

P.S. : Is it ok to give out VIN number if asked by a parts supplier?

Amey · 21st March 2011, 15:32

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Originally Posted by devarshi84

Is the guy who sourced the head from you based out of India?

Your help is extremely appreciated. Thank you.

I had a talk with him and he wasn't very enthusiastic about the DOHC MIVEC head swap for the 4G15 because he said, you would require a standalone to run the setup properly and gains are really not worth all these efforts.
Instead he recommended a normal DOHC swap along with some different/aggressive cams to make a nice peppy NA build.

Thats what he feels.

This guy owns a tuning shop by the name LLT Racing in Australia and specializes in Mitsubishi cars.
He is the one who sent me my Head.

VJ_MAVRICK · 21st March 2011, 17:44

Great thread Amey and kudos to your R&D and getting things done meticulously stage wise is simply an eye opener and especially for noob's like me.
I will try to flag you sometime in Pune and after more than year's hibernation your thread had brought me back to life on the forum. Cheers and as already hinted by many here this thread is like the bible of all lancer mods.

Amey · 21st March 2011, 23:45

Completed some major work today. Had sent the block for sleeving.Got it back this morning and began the final Engine build in this project (Hopefully)

Here are a few pics of the bottom end getting ready,

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Forged internals are in finally

Now comes the DOHC Head.That will complete the engine build.
Will update as and when there is further progress.
Thats all for now.

dragger · 23rd March 2011, 03:51

hey,is the person in the picture trying to measure ring gap with the feeler gauge,what ring gap did you keep? p2w clearance? hone pattern? just asking for info,hope you spoke to your piston supplier for clearance and hone pattern,anyways like always best of luck with this great build,cheers,happy revving

Amey · 23rd March 2011, 09:07

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Originally Posted by dragger

hey,is the person in the picture trying to measure ring gap with the feeler gauge,what ring gap did you keep? p2w clearance? hone pattern? just asking for info,hope you spoke to your piston supplier for clearance and hone pattern,anyways like always best of luck with this great build,cheers,happy revving

The recommended ring end gap for top ring was 16 thou and for the 2nd ring was 17.5 thou.
We have kept around 10-12 for top and 13-14 for the 2nd one.
p2w clearance is around 3 thou. permissible according to Wiseco is 3.5 thou.

Ricky_63 · 23rd March 2011, 11:07

Amey, each time I visit your thread & see the passion going into the build with HUGE doses of research, I am truly amazed with your perseverance and passion.

The way you are going into details may be a bible for many a people, who aspire to own or build fast/er cars but do not know where to begin.

Kudos to you, hope the net result amply compensates your effort.

Cheerio

dragger · 29th March 2011, 00:10

its good to know you were in touch with the company for details like ring gap and p2w clearance,any reason you are running tighter gaps than recommended? are you not looking to push that much boost that would require such clearances or reason's like excessive blow by? hone pattern used? anyways all the luck with this build,your sure going to have a quick car once its all done,please pay as much or more attention to the tune as you did while assembling the engine,cheers,happy revving..!

Amey · 29th March 2011, 17:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by dragger

its good to know you were in touch with the company for details like ring gap and p2w clearance,any reason you are running tighter gaps than recommended? are you not looking to push that much boost that would require such clearances or reason's like excessive blow by? hone pattern used? anyways all the luck with this build,your sure going to have a quick car once its all done,please pay as much or more attention to the tune as you did while assembling the engine,cheers,happy revving..!

I wont be running high boost on a regular basis.Maybe around 8-10 psi max. One of the reason for keeping conservative clearances is that I dont want excessive oil consumption.
Bottom end is ready and so is the Head. Now waiting for a few things like Tappet cover, idler pulley, timing belt, injectors, adjustable cam gears,coil packs,ignition leads to arrive in my hand.Once these are here, Will plonk the engine in.
The stuff is already in Mumbai so hopefully in a week or so, we should be able to bring her to life again.

Amey · 4th April 2011, 15:10

A few minor updates :

Ok so my engine is almost ready with the new Head installed along with forged internals.
The final engine build is nearing completion.
While we wait for a few minor parts like oil seals, we get the tappet cover painted, didnt want that dirty,used look of bare aluminum tappet cover. We also got the flywheel faced since we had pulled out the engine anyway.

A few parts also arrived, new coil packs,ignition leads,idler pulley,OE 275cc injectors.This should make my ECU happy now.

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Amey · 5th May 2011, 17:45

Finally !!!!!!!

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Got the last but most awaited parcel. Received Exedy HD Clutch, Jasma Adjustable Cam Gears, Cam oil seals,rocker cover seal,Gates Timing belt. Now I can get on with finishing the final engine build and plonk back the engine.

If things go as planned, in a weeks time, the car should be back in action with a DOHC Head swap and Forged Internals done

Will keep this thread updated.

Amey · 11th May 2011, 00:36

Almost there

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4G94 Block + 4G93E DOHC Head + Forged Internals. = 2L DOHC Engine hungry for some boost.Lol

Yeah baby!

Born2Slow · 11th May 2011, 01:25

Truly amazing work Amey. I have a question for you thou. If your planning to turbocharge the motor does it matter that much whether its a dohc or sohc regarding the engine breathing part as long as you have 16 valves, or is it that you need some flexibility in the cam timings. Sorry if the question has been asked before.

Ricky_63 · 11th May 2011, 10:47

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Originally Posted by Amey

Almost there

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4G94 Block + 4G93E DOHC Head + Forged Internals. = 2L DOHC Engine hungry for some boost.Lol

Yeah baby!

Wow the visuals are amazing !! It looks like a new engine - great patience & great work..so when does it hit the road ??

Cheers

gaurav_chopra04 · 11th May 2011, 13:06

Drool pics man, very nice built. So, time for a turbo ? what boost you plan to run this thing on.

Forged internals can take 14 PSI and above. I mean I was surprised to read RPWs details of 4G94, where it said that the stock internals can also take up to 14 PSI of boost, ofcourse depending upon intercooler and tuning and an upgraded gasket.

21st March 2011, 15:09	#256
devarshi84 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Ahmedabad - Tor Posts: 4,024 Thanked: 213 Times View My Garage	Re: Engine swap/Performance mods in Lancer P.S. : Is it ok to give out VIN number if asked by a parts supplier?
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21st March 2011, 17:44	#258
VJ_MAVRICK Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Sydney Posts: 1,239 Thanked: 34 Times View My Garage	Re: Engine swap/Performance mods in Lancer Great thread Amey and kudos to your R&D and getting things done meticulously stage wise is simply an eye opener and especially for noob's like me. I will try to flag you sometime in Pune and after more than year's hibernation your thread had brought me back to life on the forum. Cheers and as already hinted by many here this thread is like the bible of all lancer mods. Last edited by VJ_MAVRICK : 21st March 2011 at 17:59.
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21st March 2011, 23:45	#259
Amey BHPian Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Pune Posts: 679 Thanked: 253 Times View My Garage	Re: Engine swap/Performance mods in Lancer Completed some major work today. Had sent the block for sleeving.Got it back this morning and began the final Engine build in this project (Hopefully) Here are a few pics of the bottom end getting ready, Forged internals are in finally Now comes the DOHC Head.That will complete the engine build. Will update as and when there is further progress. Thats all for now.
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23rd March 2011, 03:51	#260
dragger BHPian Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: India-Mumbai-Colaba Posts: 350 Thanked: 6 Times	Re: Engine swap/Performance mods in Lancer hey,is the person in the picture trying to measure ring gap with the feeler gauge,what ring gap did you keep? p2w clearance? hone pattern? just asking for info,hope you spoke to your piston supplier for clearance and hone pattern,anyways like always best of luck with this great build,cheers,happy revving
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23rd March 2011, 11:07	#262
Ricky_63 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Gurgaon Posts: 3,885 Thanked: 519 Times View My Garage	Re: Engine swap/Performance mods in Lancer Amey, each time I visit your thread & see the passion going into the build with HUGE doses of research, I am truly amazed with your perseverance and passion. The way you are going into details may be a bible for many a people, who aspire to own or build fast/er cars but do not know where to begin. Kudos to you, hope the net result amply compensates your effort. Cheerio
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29th March 2011, 00:10	#263
dragger BHPian Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: India-Mumbai-Colaba Posts: 350 Thanked: 6 Times	Re: Engine swap/Performance mods in Lancer its good to know you were in touch with the company for details like ring gap and p2w clearance,any reason you are running tighter gaps than recommended? are you not looking to push that much boost that would require such clearances or reason's like excessive blow by? hone pattern used? anyways all the luck with this build,your sure going to have a quick car once its all done,please pay as much or more attention to the tune as you did while assembling the engine,cheers,happy revving..!
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4th April 2011, 15:10	#265
Amey BHPian Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Pune Posts: 679 Thanked: 253 Times View My Garage	Re: Engine swap/Performance mods in Lancer A few minor updates : Ok so my engine is almost ready with the new Head installed along with forged internals. The final engine build is nearing completion. While we wait for a few minor parts like oil seals, we get the tappet cover painted, didnt want that dirty,used look of bare aluminum tappet cover. We also got the flywheel faced since we had pulled out the engine anyway. A few parts also arrived, new coil packs,ignition leads,idler pulley,OE 275cc injectors.This should make my ECU happy now.
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5th May 2011, 17:45	#266
Amey BHPian Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Pune Posts: 679 Thanked: 253 Times View My Garage	Re: Engine swap/Performance mods in Lancer Finally !!!!!!! Got the last but most awaited parcel. Received Exedy HD Clutch, Jasma Adjustable Cam Gears, Cam oil seals,rocker cover seal,Gates Timing belt. Now I can get on with finishing the final engine build and plonk back the engine. If things go as planned, in a weeks time, the car should be back in action with a DOHC Head swap and Forged Internals done Will keep this thread updated.
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11th May 2011, 00:36	#267
Amey BHPian Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Pune Posts: 679 Thanked: 253 Times View My Garage	Re: Engine swap/Performance mods in Lancer Almost there 4G94 Block + 4G93E DOHC Head + Forged Internals. = 2L DOHC Engine hungry for some boost.Lol Yeah baby!
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11th May 2011, 01:25	#268
Born2Slow BHPian Join Date: May 2007 Location: Bnagalore/Cochin Posts: 86 Thanked: 49 Times	Re: Engine swap/Performance mods in Lancer Truly amazing work Amey. I have a question for you thou. If your planning to turbocharge the motor does it matter that much whether its a dohc or sohc regarding the engine breathing part as long as you have 16 valves, or is it that you need some flexibility in the cam timings. Sorry if the question has been asked before.
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11th May 2011, 13:06	#270
gaurav_chopra04 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: New Delhi Posts: 1,264 Thanked: 574 Times View My Garage	Re: Engine swap/Performance mods in Lancer Drool pics man, very nice built. So, time for a turbo ? what boost you plan to run this thing on. Forged internals can take 14 PSI and above. I mean I was surprised to read RPWs details of 4G94, where it said that the stock internals can also take up to 14 PSI of boost, ofcourse depending upon intercooler and tuning and an upgraded gasket.
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