Ford Ikon with a 1980's Nissan Diesel engine= FAIL

sidindica · 17th November 2009, 10:25

This Ikon is a 2000 model 1.3 Endura-E petrol which had clocked about 1,50,000 kms with its original engine.
It used to run in CNG but took ages to start after an average of 10-15 cranks.
Then this year in March its sound surprised me as how come a petrol engine sounded like diesel?
On opening the bonnet, I was horrified to see this..a diesel engine from Nissan!
But he didn't tell me from where he got it, and from which vehicle it was swapped.
7 months after, this thing again takes ages to start, vibrates and pollutes like hell with thick black smoke (one of the reasons for my current sickness), its fan belt squeaks like hell and wakes the entire building up every morning, almost has run out of engine oil, such badly maintained vehicle it is.

Of course this car belongs to someone in my locality..
FAIL

BTW can anyone make out from which Nissan vehicle has the engine been swapped?

Neil.Bhujbal · 17th November 2009, 13:13

Someone actually had the TIME & MONEY to do this ?

.anshuman · 17th November 2009, 14:38

This is a common practise amongst road side mechanics in small towns in Haryana and Punjab. Once a engine of an old car like this dies they suggest to plonk in a diesel, if the owner agrees they source a dirt cheap Toyota/Nissan's ages old engine from mayapuri and dump it in the car with their made in workshop iron mountings, No need to guess the result it is a disaster just like this one but the mechanic makes good money.

abhi1309 · 17th November 2009, 15:36

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Originally Posted by .anshuman

This is a common practise amongst road side mechanics in small towns in Haryana and Punjab. Once a engine of an old car like this dies they suggest to plonk in a diesel, if the owner agrees they source a dirt cheap Toyota/Nissan's ages old engine from mayapuri and dump it in the car with their made in workshop iron mountings, No need to guess the result it is a disaster just like this one but the mechanic makes good money.

True, road side mechs love doing this and usually suggest the owner to change the engine to these tractor ones. The original engine too possibly would be working well, they just take a chance and mislead the owner. Sell the original one to someone else and this one to this car owner, make loads of money. So common this practice is that there would even be documentation existing for it.

Neil.Bhujbal · 17th November 2009, 18:26

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Originally Posted by .anshuman

This is a common practise amongst road side mechanics in small towns in Haryana and Punjab. Once a engine of an old car like this dies they suggest to plonk in a diesel, if the owner agrees they source a dirt cheap Toyota/Nissan's ages old engine from mayapuri and dump it in the car with their made in workshop iron mountings, No need to guess the result it is a disaster just like this one but the mechanic makes good money.

Dam ! I dint knew about these things,But how could the owners be so stupid ?

GTO · 17th November 2009, 18:28

Pathetic. From your description and the pictures, it looks like a road side install of a worn out used diesel engine. The owner would have been better off rebuilding his petrol engine + a good CNG kit.

StreetAddict · 18th November 2009, 17:53

This is pathetic & dangerous. Look at those wires. This can be termed as a chalta-firta bomb.

MX6 · 18th November 2009, 19:01

Isn't this illegal? Now what does the vehicle registration read vis-a-vis engine and chassis number? Can/ will the owner of such a car be arrested?

4x4addict · 19th November 2009, 09:32

Doing something silly like this may seam like a good deal initially given that it will be cheaper than buying a diesel Ikon but in the long run it will become a money pit !!.

He/she should have just sold and bought a newer icon petrol or diesel rather than go through this.

DieselFan · 19th November 2009, 12:29

It is illegal to have the engine changed without re-registration. RTO will re-register the car only after ascertaining whether the vehicle is usable on the long run or not. In this case RTO would have rejected the same. Also by the description this car will not clear pollution control scan. Again it is illegal to run such a car on the road.

wanderernomad · 19th November 2009, 13:59

Such swaps used to be very common a few years back. I am surprised that someone has actually gone ahead and done it to an IKON because these swaps were usually done on old ambys and gypsy's. Around Merutt there used to be a huge market for this kinda work but now a days its a faint resemblance of its hey days. Also the swa[ is illegal and the vehicle can be impounded, that is if it doesnt get disintegrated before.

sidindica · 20th November 2009, 20:12

Just now I will give you something to tom tom about myself- my sickness may have been taken care of by nature, the car's engine has seized.

4x4addict · 20th November 2009, 21:25

Frankly I would have preferred it to be charred beyond recognition with a nice bolt of lighting, preferable with the mechanic who did the engine change inside, but I guess for now an engine seizure has calmed me down.

17th November 2009, 10:25	#1
sidindica Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Delhi Posts: 4,894 Thanked: 8,142 Times	Ford Ikon with a 1980's Nissan Diesel engine= FAIL This Ikon is a 2000 model 1.3 Endura-E petrol which had clocked about 1,50,000 kms with its original engine. It used to run in CNG but took ages to start after an average of 10-15 cranks. Then this year in March its sound surprised me as how come a petrol engine sounded like diesel? On opening the bonnet, I was horrified to see this..a diesel engine from Nissan! But he didn't tell me from where he got it, and from which vehicle it was swapped. 7 months after, this thing again takes ages to start, vibrates and pollutes like hell with thick black smoke (one of the reasons for my current sickness), its fan belt squeaks like hell and wakes the entire building up every morning, almost has run out of engine oil, such badly maintained vehicle it is. Of course this car belongs to someone in my locality.. FAIL BTW can anyone make out from which Nissan vehicle has the engine been swapped? Attached Thumbnails Last edited by sidindica : 17th November 2009 at 10:28.
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17th November 2009, 13:13	#2
Neil.Bhujbal BHPian Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Pune Posts: 192 Thanked: 90 Times	Someone actually had the TIME & MONEY to do this ?
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17th November 2009, 14:38	#3
.anshuman Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Good-Gaon Posts: 7,763 Thanked: 11,072 Times View My Garage	This is a common practise amongst road side mechanics in small towns in Haryana and Punjab. Once a engine of an old car like this dies they suggest to plonk in a diesel, if the owner agrees they source a dirt cheap Toyota/Nissan's ages old engine from mayapuri and dump it in the car with their made in workshop iron mountings, No need to guess the result it is a disaster just like this one but the mechanic makes good money.
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17th November 2009, 18:28	#6
GTO Team-BHP Support Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Bombay Posts: 71,336 Thanked: 307,775 Times View My Garage	Pathetic. From your description and the pictures, it looks like a road side install of a worn out used diesel engine. The owner would have been better off rebuilding his petrol engine + a good CNG kit.
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18th November 2009, 17:53	#7
StreetAddict BHPian Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Delhi Posts: 202 Thanked: 49 Times	This is pathetic & dangerous. Look at those wires. This can be termed as a chalta-firta bomb.
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18th November 2009, 19:01	#8
MX6 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: City of seven islands. Posts: 2,878 Thanked: 232 Times	Isn't this illegal? Now what does the vehicle registration read vis-a-vis engine and chassis number? Can/ will the owner of such a car be arrested?
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19th November 2009, 09:32	#9
4x4addict Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Chennai Posts: 4,488 Thanked: 4,551 Times View My Garage	Doing something silly like this may seam like a good deal initially given that it will be cheaper than buying a diesel Ikon but in the long run it will become a money pit !!. He/she should have just sold and bought a newer icon petrol or diesel rather than go through this.
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19th November 2009, 12:29	#10
DieselFan Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,584 Thanked: 259 Times	It is illegal to have the engine changed without re-registration. RTO will re-register the car only after ascertaining whether the vehicle is usable on the long run or not. In this case RTO would have rejected the same. Also by the description this car will not clear pollution control scan. Again it is illegal to run such a car on the road.
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19th November 2009, 13:59	#11
wanderernomad Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Chandigarh Posts: 2,536 Thanked: 1,279 Times View My Garage	Such swaps used to be very common a few years back. I am surprised that someone has actually gone ahead and done it to an IKON because these swaps were usually done on old ambys and gypsy's. Around Merutt there used to be a huge market for this kinda work but now a days its a faint resemblance of its hey days. Also the swa[ is illegal and the vehicle can be impounded, that is if it doesnt get disintegrated before.
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20th November 2009, 20:12	#12
sidindica Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Delhi Posts: 4,894 Thanked: 8,142 Times	Just now I will give you something to tom tom about myself- my sickness may have been taken care of by nature, the car's engine has seized.
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20th November 2009, 21:25	#13
4x4addict Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Chennai Posts: 4,488 Thanked: 4,551 Times View My Garage	Frankly I would have preferred it to be charred beyond recognition with a nice bolt of lighting, preferable with the mechanic who did the engine change inside, but I guess for now an engine seizure has calmed me down.
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