Air Filters - K&N vs Greencotton vs Pipercross

im_srini · 8th July 2009, 11:59

I've been using a "Simota" air-filter for the past 2 years, this filter has a stainless-steel filter element. I clean & oil the filter religiously every couple of months but I'm beginning to suspect its filtration prowess (at least for Indian conditions, on daily drivers). I'm planning to fabricate a custom cold-air-intake & switch to another filter...

RaceTech's dealing with BMC air-filters, how good are they ?

And, where can I source Green-Cotton filters in Chennai ?

hbaruas · 9th July 2009, 10:52

Hi friends,
I am on the lookout for new stock filters for my accent 2007.
If anyone on this forum has had first hand experience with K&N, green or PiperCross on Accent .. please share the same.

The car has run 10000kms uptil now.

I have got CNG fitted on my Accent a month ago .. and my monthly run is going to be around 3000 kms.
Will it be logical to go in with these branded air filters .. as I was suggested to change the air-filter every 3000 kms.

Do let me know the PRICES of the filters as well ...

I have seen shops selling K&N filters . but is PiperCross also as readily/easily available in the markets !

Cheers...
HBaruAs

drvhplyevraftr · 9th July 2009, 11:12

I have never used any K&N. However I have used Pipercross and Green cotton. The pipercross which I used was the conical type and the GC is the Wind CAI. I cannot compare those two and say which was better as both should have been either of the conical type or the CAI type. Besides the pipercross that was fitted was probably too small for my engine size (1.3 getz) and probably too close to my engine (and sucking lot of hot air from the engine) that I was very dissatisfied with its performance. I changed to GC wind CAI and am very happy. I wanted to try the storm but there was not much space in the engine bay to fit the storm.

Turbo Head · 12th July 2009, 22:30

Installed Green Filters didn't find any noticeable change in my Indigo, then switched to K & N and found it far far better in terms of air suction. The power in high rpm is also much more usable, Installed few more in Indica/Scorpio/Swift etc. All doing perfectly well.

anandkumargb · 31st July 2009, 21:28

Could someone pls answer the below questions:

1) I want to install a filter in my Swift Diesel to get better sound, which one should I go for?
2) Cost?
3) Where would you recommed, place?

Thanks

mobike008 · 31st July 2009, 21:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by anandkumargb

Could someone pls answer the below questions:

1) I want to install a filter in my Swift Diesel to get better sound, which one should I go for?
2) Cost?
3) Where would you recommed, place?

Thanks

Since your's is a diesel car, whichever filter you go for, the sound won't be heard in the diesel clatter. Maybe a CAI can give you the sound output. CAI's cost around 6K and replacement around 3K-3.5K

KSM-Vtec · 31st July 2009, 23:35

dont think CIA's cost only 6k, conicals come up to 5-5.5k

Quote:

Originally Posted by mobike008

Since your's is a diesel car, whichever filter you go for, the sound won't be heard in the diesel clatter. Maybe a CAI can give you the sound output. CAI's cost around 6K and replacement around 3K-3.5K

jkdas · 7th August 2009, 20:45

Was a happy guys with Green Cotton on my Xing.

Now, I want to get something for my Safari 2.2L. Heard Green Cotton's diffuser breaks off in the Safari. Any pointers here?

anandkumargb · 8th August 2009, 02:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by mobike008

Since your's is a diesel car, whichever filter you go for, the sound won't be heard in the diesel clatter. Maybe a CAI can give you the sound output. CAI's cost around 6K and replacement around 3K-3.5K

I think I agree with you. Thank you! for your advice, saved me 5+k.

Thomas8700 · 8th August 2009, 02:30

why isnt anyone using the HKS filters they are much better and also most easily washable.
its a bit costly though ~9k i guess.

havent anyone used it or are guys only using k&N and green ??

jkdas · 8th August 2009, 09:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thomas8700

why isnt anyone using the HKS filters they are much better and also most easily washable.
its a bit costly though ~9k i guess.

havent anyone used it or are guys only using k&N and green ??

Availability is the issue and product awareness.

gemithomas · 8th August 2009, 10:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by jkdas

Availability is the issue and product awareness.

Any Idea on where i can get green cottons in trivandrum. Also i've heard GC is better than K&N for Palio. ANy idea?

Thanks.

viky_s · 12th August 2009, 15:08

hello members,

i want to install greencotton WIND/STORM filter in my lightly modded mpfi esteem. presently i have k&n conical filter but it sucks in hot air from engine bay often. will wind/strom solve this problem and boost low-mid rang torque?
what is the exact difference bet wind and storm ; couldn't find it on their site...

OR should i go for k&N apollo kit (cost rs9900.00)
please advice...
i am alos trying to contact petes for the same.

adi99 · 12th August 2009, 20:08

I think WIND is for less than 100 BHP car and STORM for more than 100 BHP car.

viky_s · 12th August 2009, 22:47

thanks adi99,
i spoke to petes and they have advised WIND as STORM is a tad too big to fit comfortably in esteem. i am getting the WIND filter along with the dynamization kit by end of this week. will post further details of installation along with pics and results soon.

cheers
viky

View Poll Results: The best airfilters around..
K&N Air Filters	143	57.89%
Pipercross Air Filters	24	9.72%
Greencotton Air Filters	58	23.48%
Othes	22	8.91%
Voters: 247. You may not vote on this poll

8th July 2009, 11:59	#91
im_srini BHPian Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Portland Posts: 1,010 Thanked: 491 Times View My Garage	I've been using a "Simota" air-filter for the past 2 years, this filter has a stainless-steel filter element. I clean & oil the filter religiously every couple of months but I'm beginning to suspect its filtration prowess (at least for Indian conditions, on daily drivers). I'm planning to fabricate a custom cold-air-intake & switch to another filter... RaceTech's dealing with BMC air-filters, how good are they ? And, where can I source Green-Cotton filters in Chennai ?
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9th July 2009, 10:52	#92
hbaruas BHPian Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Delhi Posts: 82 Thanked: 3 Times	filter for Accent Hi friends, I am on the lookout for new stock filters for my accent 2007. If anyone on this forum has had first hand experience with K&N, green or PiperCross on Accent .. please share the same. The car has run 10000kms uptil now. I have got CNG fitted on my Accent a month ago .. and my monthly run is going to be around 3000 kms. Will it be logical to go in with these branded air filters .. as I was suggested to change the air-filter every 3000 kms. Do let me know the PRICES of the filters as well ... I have seen shops selling K&N filters . but is PiperCross also as readily/easily available in the markets ! Cheers... HBaruAs
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9th July 2009, 11:12	#93
drvhplyevraftr BHPian Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Hyderabad Posts: 333 Thanked: 60 Times	I have never used any K&N. However I have used Pipercross and Green cotton. The pipercross which I used was the conical type and the GC is the Wind CAI. I cannot compare those two and say which was better as both should have been either of the conical type or the CAI type. Besides the pipercross that was fitted was probably too small for my engine size (1.3 getz) and probably too close to my engine (and sucking lot of hot air from the engine) that I was very dissatisfied with its performance. I changed to GC wind CAI and am very happy. I wanted to try the storm but there was not much space in the engine bay to fit the storm.
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12th July 2009, 22:30	#94
Turbo Head BHPian Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: New Delhi Posts: 329 Thanked: 253 Times	Installed Green Filters didn't find any noticeable change in my Indigo, then switched to K & N and found it far far better in terms of air suction. The power in high rpm is also much more usable, Installed few more in Indica/Scorpio/Swift etc. All doing perfectly well.
	() Thanks

31st July 2009, 21:28	#95
anandkumargb BHPian Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Bangalore Posts: 210 Thanked: 182 Times View My Garage	Swift Diesel - Could someone pls answer the below questions: 1) I want to install a filter in my Swift Diesel to get better sound, which one should I go for? 2) Cost? 3) Where would you recommed, place? Thanks
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7th August 2009, 20:45	#98
jkdas Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Thiruvananthapu Posts: 9,687 Thanked: 1,496 Times View My Garage	Was a happy guys with Green Cotton on my Xing. Now, I want to get something for my Safari 2.2L. Heard Green Cotton's diffuser breaks off in the Safari. Any pointers here?
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8th August 2009, 02:30	#100
Thomas8700 BANNED Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: back in gods own country :) Posts: 118 Thanked: 0 Times	why isnt anyone using the HKS filters they are much better and also most easily washable. its a bit costly though ~9k i guess. havent anyone used it or are guys only using k&N and green ??
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12th August 2009, 15:08	#103
viky_s BHPian Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Nashik Posts: 129 Thanked: 51 Times	hello members, i want to install greencotton WIND/STORM filter in my lightly modded mpfi esteem. presently i have k&n conical filter but it sucks in hot air from engine bay often. will wind/strom solve this problem and boost low-mid rang torque? what is the exact difference bet wind and storm ; couldn't find it on their site... OR should i go for k&N apollo kit (cost rs9900.00) please advice... i am alos trying to contact petes for the same.
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12th August 2009, 20:08	#104
adi99 BHPian Join Date: May 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 274 Thanked: 2 Times View My Garage	I think WIND is for less than 100 BHP car and STORM for more than 100 BHP car.
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12th August 2009, 22:47	#105
viky_s BHPian Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Nashik Posts: 129 Thanked: 51 Times	thanks adi99, i spoke to petes and they have advised WIND as STORM is a tad too big to fit comfortably in esteem. i am getting the WIND filter along with the dynamization kit by end of this week. will post further details of installation along with pics and results soon. cheers viky
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