Old model Suzuki 800 mod questions.

Sankar · 23rd May 2005, 23:18

Hello guys, i have today bought a red 85 Dec Suzuki 800. The car is in very good nick with no majordents on the body (except one small dent on the left fender) and has done only 43000 kilometres interior is neat! It was a good find for me, I was lucky! And it's my B'day! I just love this car! It looks very much better finished than todays 800s.

Here are the things i want to do right now. Please pool in with your suggestions and other mod ideas.

1) Free flow exhaust. Where in bangalore can i get a free flow (including the headers) made for the car. How much would it cost?

2) I need to put a K&n. Which type should i go in for, OE replacement (how much?) or cold air kit. Would the replacement filter provide with a much better flow than the oe paper filter? I don't want to go for the cold air kit if it's too expensive.

3) Rear suspension mod. I've read edmund's post about his fiberglass leaf springs, Edmund dude your springs look awesome! I want to know if there's any chance of finding those fiberglass springs in bangalore? Any idea where i should look in bangalore?

4) Is it still possible to source parts for this model through the authorised dealers? Which parts are the most difficult to get for this car?

5) Which is the highest wattage headlamp bulbs i can put in this car? I have read about Rudra using a 100/130 in his Amby. Can i use the same?

6) This is just an idea i'm not sure whether i want to implement his or not, anyway here it is. I'm thinking about removing all the floor mats and putting stainless-steel sheet (with that nice diamond design) to the entire floor of the car. Has anyone done this to their car? What do you think of this and any idea about the cost?

That's all for now folks! Pool in!!

Sankar · 23rd May 2005, 23:57

Hey i missed on Q # 7, Here it is...

7) I have seen people servoing the brake of the post 89 model M 800s. Is it possible to put servo brakes on my old model 800?

Edmund · 24th May 2005, 02:48

sankar man......post some pics of your new found love soon!!!! dying to see her!!!

Edmund · 24th May 2005, 03:39

Firstly A Belated Happy Birthday to you Sankar.......

About the free flow and cold air intake kit just go thru this following link where i brought up the same topic for discussion and got a lot of information from the guys here.........Link to K&N Filter Questions......

About point 3) The fibreglass leaf springs my friend will be a task to find, i was lucky 'coz my uncle had a pair lying in his workshop, ask the B'lore guys......Rudra will definately be able to help you out, he has a neat '85 800 himself!!!

How much did you pay for the car???

Sankar · 24th May 2005, 06:35

I'll post the pic but gimme some time, i don't have a digicam, either i need to find a friend who has one or i'll have to take the pic in my camera and wait till i finish the roll. I'll post the pic within a week.

I paid 45k for this beauty. Friends told me it's a bit on the higher side, but after seeing a couple of other old models for 35k and 28k i guess this is worth it. A few rupees more could have got me the IInd model car, but i thought it's best to own a nice clean dent free old model rather than a battered new type.

byramshroff · 27th May 2005, 23:47

Hey Sankar happy birthday.I have 2 red 85 m 800's both have done about 60,000 kilometers so far.The cars dont give much trouble except for the flooring which is starting to rust a little.One word of advice get your handbrake checked and tightened because my mom pulled the handbrake really hard once and it literally just broke off.Also get good tyres because the car doesnt handle well.check for rim damage as well.

Sankar · 28th May 2005, 06:03

Byramshroff, i have to agree with you floor rusting is a major worry on this model. I saw couple of another old models, before i bought this one, and both had rusted floors, one so rusted that i was afraid to sit in it lol! I guess being in Mumbai adds to the rusting problem being close to the sea. I would recommend you do the cleaning, patching and painting of the floor in time to prevent the rust from spreading if you intend to keep the car.

Handbrake will be done, my car's in the workshop undergoing servicing and checkup.

The car's a bit jumpy at the back, is this normal with the old 800s?

The rims are a bit damaged - a lil bent, doesn't look good. I have to buy new wheels, What do you guys suggest:-

1) Buy new 12" maruti wheels? (I have heard these will take tubeless tyres, is it true?) + Go for 165 65 R12

2) Buy new 13" 'old model zen' wheels? + Go for 165 60 R13 tyres.

How much would a set of 4 aura alloys cost me? Does anybody know the price of OE steel wheels?

sparco · 28th May 2005, 12:17

dude no matter how much ever make up you put on a jokers face a joker
will always remain a joker only...

nitrous · 28th May 2005, 20:16

My advise to u sankar:

Get hold of Rudra and psycho, u'll wont need to post queries any longer. rudra will give u experienced opinions and psycho will take care of the tech. stuff.

Rudra Sen · 28th May 2005, 21:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sankar

Hello guys, i have today bought a red 85 Dec Suzuki 800. The car is in very good nick with no majordents on the body (except one small dent on the left fender) and has done only 43000 kilometres interior is neat! It was a good find for me, I was lucky! And it's my B'day! I just love this car! It looks very much better finished than todays 800s.

Congratulation. If it's actually 43000km done engine then you have a gem in your hand.

Quote:

1) Free flow exhaust. Where in bangalore can i get a free flow (including the headers) made for the car. How much would it cost?

I'll check if there's a ready one available. Otherwise making that is no issue. Without head porting difference won't be much though.

Quote:

2) I need to put a K&n. Which type should i go in for, OE replacement (how much?) or cold air kit. Would the replacement filter provide with a much better flow than the oe paper filter? I don't want to go for the cold air kit if it's too expensive.

Keep around 4000k for K&N replacement.

Quote:

3) Rear suspension mod. I've read edmund's post about his fiberglass leaf springs, Edmund dude your springs look awesome! I want to know if there's any chance of finding those fiberglass springs in bangalore? Any idea where i should look in bangalore?

Not desperately needed unless you fancy one.

Quote:

4) Is it still possible to source parts for this model through the authorised dealers? Which parts are the most difficult to get for this car?

Difficult or I should say impossible. Body parts and trims are the most difficult.

Quote:

5) Which is the highest wattage headlamp bulbs i can put in this car? I have read about Rudra using a 100/130 in his Amby. Can i use the same?

90/100 would be right. You can try my car for a proof. 100/130 is no no. Besides, Maruti's original reflector housing cannot take that kind of heat.

Quote:

6) This is just an idea i'm not sure whether i want to implement his or not, anyway here it is. I'm thinking about removing all the floor mats and putting stainless-steel sheet (with that nice diamond design) to the entire floor of the car. Has anyone done this to their car? What do you think of this and any idea about the cost?

You're talking about tread plates. No not worth it. Get your flooring done from any authorised service station if it's badly rusted.

Quote:

Originally Posted by sparco

dude no matter how much ever make up you put on a jokers face a joker
will always remain a joker only...

Are you talking about the old model 800? Have you driven one of them? If you're driving a new model 800..I suggest try a properly maintained old one and feel the difference.

Loose comments without any basis is not what we encourage in this forum.

Thanks.

Sankar · 28th May 2005, 22:35

Thanks a lot Rudra Sen. I very much appreciate it. I'm right now in Trivandrum and i'm driving the car to Bangalore by 19th of June. I'll contact you through PM when i'm in bangalore. Yes i need to know about the porting and freeflow.

Yes the engine has only 43000km on it. It still feels peppy and can match the newer 800s out there.

The floor is not rusted it's good. But i liked the idea of putting treadplates and taking the carpet off for a sporty feel. It's not important.

sparco, i resent that comment.

speedsatya · 28th May 2005, 22:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by sparco

dude no matter how much ever make up you put on a jokers face a joker
will always remain a joker only...

hey sparco ,
can u please explain this joker thing???????

BTW sankar,
congrats on your car.is this the first model m800 withall the japanese parts?????
i have pmed u details of the fiberglass springs.

jesal · 28th May 2005, 23:05

hey man congrats on the car. even i bought a 1985 red colour some time back. about the mods not really having a idea about the same. i have kept it stock. was completly stripped and all and restored again as well. this is the 5th maruti 800 i have owned. 3 of the same kind. heres a pic of it.

c10 · 28th May 2005, 23:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by nitrous

My advise to u sankar:

Get hold of Rudra and psycho, u'll wont need to post queries any longer. rudra will give u experienced opinions and psycho will take care of the tech. stuff.

Hi Sankar, Congrats!!!

i strongly second nitrous....i guess rudra Rudra too owns a old shape M800(White) if im not wrong....

c10

Sankar · 29th May 2005, 00:24

Jesal that's a nice car! Mine's the same model, the paint looks a bit dull on mine but it's the original paint. After some polishing it would look better. I'll post the pics as soon as i get the car back from service centre and the roll developed.

The best things i like about the looks of the old 800 is the slightly longer bonnet compared to the newer stoopy versions and the steel window trim on the door. The newer 800s black rubber door trim looks shabby with ends not sitting perfect, but the old model's steel trim fits perfectly and tight no loose ends. Old models steel (or is it aluminum) rain gutters also looks nice and better.

Thanks for the input fellas!

23rd May 2005, 23:18	#1
Sankar Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2005 Location: Location Posts: 5,780 Thanked: 9,221 Times	Old model Suzuki 800 mod questions. Hello guys, i have today bought a red 85 Dec Suzuki 800. The car is in very good nick with no majordents on the body (except one small dent on the left fender) and has done only 43000 kilometres interior is neat! It was a good find for me, I was lucky! And it's my B'day! I just love this car! It looks very much better finished than todays 800s. Here are the things i want to do right now. Please pool in with your suggestions and other mod ideas. 1) Free flow exhaust. Where in bangalore can i get a free flow (including the headers) made for the car. How much would it cost? 2) I need to put a K&n. Which type should i go in for, OE replacement (how much?) or cold air kit. Would the replacement filter provide with a much better flow than the oe paper filter? I don't want to go for the cold air kit if it's too expensive. 3) Rear suspension mod. I've read edmund's post about his fiberglass leaf springs, Edmund dude your springs look awesome! I want to know if there's any chance of finding those fiberglass springs in bangalore? Any idea where i should look in bangalore? 4) Is it still possible to source parts for this model through the authorised dealers? Which parts are the most difficult to get for this car? 5) Which is the highest wattage headlamp bulbs i can put in this car? I have read about Rudra using a 100/130 in his Amby. Can i use the same? 6) This is just an idea i'm not sure whether i want to implement his or not, anyway here it is. I'm thinking about removing all the floor mats and putting stainless-steel sheet (with that nice diamond design) to the entire floor of the car. Has anyone done this to their car? What do you think of this and any idea about the cost? That's all for now folks! Pool in!!
	() Thanks

23rd May 2005, 23:57	#2
Sankar Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2005 Location: Location Posts: 5,780 Thanked: 9,221 Times	Hey i missed on Q # 7, Here it is... 7) I have seen people servoing the brake of the post 89 model M 800s. Is it possible to put servo brakes on my old model 800?
	() Thanks

24th May 2005, 02:48	#3
Edmund BHPian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Stuttgart, Germany. Posts: 831 Thanked: 172 Times View My Garage	sankar man......post some pics of your new found love soon!!!! dying to see her!!!
	() Thanks

24th May 2005, 03:39	#4
Edmund BHPian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Stuttgart, Germany. Posts: 831 Thanked: 172 Times View My Garage	Hmmmmm! Firstly A Belated Happy Birthday to you Sankar....... About the free flow and cold air intake kit just go thru this following link where i brought up the same topic for discussion and got a lot of information from the guys here.........Link to K&N Filter Questions...... About point 3) The fibreglass leaf springs my friend will be a task to find, i was lucky 'coz my uncle had a pair lying in his workshop, ask the B'lore guys......Rudra will definately be able to help you out, he has a neat '85 800 himself!!! How much did you pay for the car???
	() Thanks

24th May 2005, 06:35	#5
Sankar Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2005 Location: Location Posts: 5,780 Thanked: 9,221 Times	I'll post the pic but gimme some time, i don't have a digicam, either i need to find a friend who has one or i'll have to take the pic in my camera and wait till i finish the roll. I'll post the pic within a week. I paid 45k for this beauty. Friends told me it's a bit on the higher side, but after seeing a couple of other old models for 35k and 28k i guess this is worth it. A few rupees more could have got me the IInd model car, but i thought it's best to own a nice clean dent free old model rather than a battered new type.
	() Thanks

27th May 2005, 23:47	#6
byramshroff BHPian Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: mumbai Posts: 195 Thanked: 0 Times	Hey Sankar happy birthday.I have 2 red 85 m 800's both have done about 60,000 kilometers so far.The cars dont give much trouble except for the flooring which is starting to rust a little.One word of advice get your handbrake checked and tightened because my mom pulled the handbrake really hard once and it literally just broke off.Also get good tyres because the car doesnt handle well.check for rim damage as well. Last edited by byramshroff : 27th May 2005 at 23:51.
	() Thanks

28th May 2005, 06:03	#7
Sankar Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2005 Location: Location Posts: 5,780 Thanked: 9,221 Times	Byramshroff, i have to agree with you floor rusting is a major worry on this model. I saw couple of another old models, before i bought this one, and both had rusted floors, one so rusted that i was afraid to sit in it lol! I guess being in Mumbai adds to the rusting problem being close to the sea. I would recommend you do the cleaning, patching and painting of the floor in time to prevent the rust from spreading if you intend to keep the car. Handbrake will be done, my car's in the workshop undergoing servicing and checkup. The car's a bit jumpy at the back, is this normal with the old 800s? The rims are a bit damaged - a lil bent, doesn't look good. I have to buy new wheels, What do you guys suggest:- 1) Buy new 12" maruti wheels? (I have heard these will take tubeless tyres, is it true?) + Go for 165 65 R12 2) Buy new 13" 'old model zen' wheels? + Go for 165 60 R13 tyres. How much would a set of 4 aura alloys cost me? Does anybody know the price of OE steel wheels?
	() Thanks

28th May 2005, 12:17	#8
sparco BHPian Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: bandra-mumbai Posts: 72 Thanked: 0 Times	dude no matter how much ever make up you put on a jokers face a joker will always remain a joker only...
	() Thanks

28th May 2005, 20:16	#9
nitrous Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2004 Location: UAE/Lon/Madras Posts: 6,965 Thanked: 329 Times View My Garage	My advise to u sankar: Get hold of Rudra and psycho, u'll wont need to post queries any longer. rudra will give u experienced opinions and psycho will take care of the tech. stuff.
	() Thanks

28th May 2005, 22:35	#11
Sankar Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2005 Location: Location Posts: 5,780 Thanked: 9,221 Times	Thanks a lot Rudra Sen. I very much appreciate it. I'm right now in Trivandrum and i'm driving the car to Bangalore by 19th of June. I'll contact you through PM when i'm in bangalore. Yes i need to know about the porting and freeflow. Yes the engine has only 43000km on it. It still feels peppy and can match the newer 800s out there. The floor is not rusted it's good. But i liked the idea of putting treadplates and taking the carpet off for a sporty feel. It's not important. sparco, i resent that comment.
	() Thanks

28th May 2005, 23:05	#13
jesal BANNED Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 2,323 Thanked: 15 Times View My Garage	hey man congrats on the car. even i bought a 1985 red colour some time back. about the mods not really having a idea about the same. i have kept it stock. was completly stripped and all and restored again as well. this is the 5th maruti 800 i have owned. 3 of the same kind. heres a pic of it.
	() Thanks

29th May 2005, 00:24	#15
Sankar Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2005 Location: Location Posts: 5,780 Thanked: 9,221 Times	Jesal that's a nice car! Mine's the same model, the paint looks a bit dull on mine but it's the original paint. After some polishing it would look better. I'll post the pics as soon as i get the car back from service centre and the roll developed. The best things i like about the looks of the old 800 is the slightly longer bonnet compared to the newer stoopy versions and the steel window trim on the door. The newer 800s black rubber door trim looks shabby with ends not sitting perfect, but the old model's steel trim fits perfectly and tight no loose ends. Old models steel (or is it aluminum) rain gutters also looks nice and better. Thanks for the input fellas!
	() Thanks