The Zen Modifications Thread

archat68 · 28th February 2009, 10:01

Hi Theodore_ftw,
The indicators and tail lamps looks nice.
How much those cost you?

zeeshan suleman · 28th February 2009, 12:32

Hey guys,

i want to tune up my car, i want to put in an esteem engine in the car for much better performance, But also at the same time i want the car to be reliable as well.

well i spoke to a tuner friend of mine who has done up lots of carb engined cars till date, he says we can do 2 things:

1. put in an 8 V block and keep the head of the zen only, get new pistons, rings, engine bearings, esteem clutch plate/p.plate and port / polish the head .

OR

2. get a 16 V Mpfi esteem engine but change it to carb, put in the carb esteems manifold n carb, get new inner parts ( new pistons, rings, engine bearings, esteem clutch plate/p.plate and port / polish the head . )

Now which is better, the 8 v engine ( only block) or the 16 v mpfi engine changed to carb, my tuner says the 16 v has a much better drive and power as compared to the 8v, please help, also if i go for the 16v the cost DOUBLES, so please advice as i wanna start with this project asap.

Also keep in mind while swapping the engine i will retain my old zen engine incase i wanna swap back in future .

Thanks,

Zeeshan

WAGON_R · 28th February 2009, 13:23

why dont you hook up the mpfi engine itself if you manage to get the ECU, instead of converting the same to carb.
yes the 16 v engine will give you better performance than the 8v.

zeeshan suleman · 28th February 2009, 20:54

hey guys after looking for over a week i got myself a deal for a 16v esteem engine, got the engine today, will be punching my engine number on it and will be getting delivery on monday, the engine is in pretty good condition, because before buying it my tuner opened the entire engine to check and alls good, now just to port/polish the head change it to carb and fit it and fir the new clutch and were off!!

WAGON_R · 28th February 2009, 21:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by zeeshan suleman

hey guys after looking for over a week i got myself a deal for a 16v esteem engine, got the engine today, will be punching my engine number on it and will be getting delivery on monday, the engine is in pretty good condition, because before buying it my tuner opened the entire engine to check and alls good, now just to port/polish the head change it to carb and fit it and fir the new clutch and were off!!

congrats, finally you are on your track. how old is the engine? how much did it cost you? did you pick it up from total loss car or junkyard?

rohan_fonseca · 1st March 2009, 16:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by zeeshan suleman

hey guys after looking for over a week i got myself a deal for a 16v esteem engine, got the engine today, will be punching my engine number on it and will be getting delivery on monday, the engine is in pretty good condition, because before buying it my tuner opened the entire engine to check and alls good, now just to port/polish the head change it to carb and fit it and fir the new clutch and were off!!

What about brakes, suspension, wheels?

Cyrus43 · 1st March 2009, 17:35

A brilliant looking E-Zen for everyone. One of the cleanest looking cars i have seen.

1st March 2009, 18:29

The engine bay looks nice, but, the air filter is exposed to the elements. How healthy is that? How does the owner manage?

k_shanz · 1st March 2009, 18:36

Hey nice car dude! How did u mange to keep your filter dry! What you will do when it rains?
anyway liked the work on your car very much!
Me too having a zen, but 2006 model!
Planning to get an esteem bottom half and a fuel pressure regulator!

white_vdi · 1st March 2009, 18:37

+1 with rippergeo

nevertheless that is a very neat looking zen there!

even has a push start button. very well maintained.

revtech · 1st March 2009, 18:45

push button start is nice.. whats the toggle switch for ?

Rev

k_shanz · 1st March 2009, 19:12

hey! How are you! I like your car very much as it is an E-zen!
I am a pure bhp-lover, can u tell me what all u did to swap your engine? I too have a zen and am thinking of swapping it, for now i got only Headers, Filters and Iridium Plugs on my car!
Please help. Mine is Mpfi and am thinking of getting a mpfi-esteem bottom-half.
Is that your shop `EVO' seen in your rides pics? If so can you tell me how much it will cost for a Fuel Pressure Regulator!
Please Help!

k_shanz · 1st March 2009, 19:18

Hey anyone knows which one is the best rubber for a 14" Rims on a zen!
The size i could normally prefer is 195/40 or 185/40.
I have only a mild tune up (10-15 b.h.p), but i want maximum handling over the corners! Now am running on 195/40 size Hankook Ventus Rubber. Am not that satisfied with it, as it is too hard and very low mileage(Wearing)!
Please help, also help me in knowing whether the same size is available in Yokohama! It is the best brand for all the tuned enthusiasts!

zeeshan suleman · 1st March 2009, 20:35

@ WAGON_R: yup i got it from chor bazaar, Cost me 25 K, the engine dealer was a relatives friend so i got a good clean deal, its off a totalled car, he told me the engine was 07 model, i had the enitire chamber and head opened to check the engine and it was in mint condition, even the mounts were in great condition, all i need to do is open the entire engine, get it cleaned, refixed , port / polish n were off.

@ rohan_fonseca : about the suspension i plan to drive it around for about 500-800 kms without goin over 3000 Rpm to jus set things in, also after that ill see what can be done about the suspensions, Koni is an option but theyre a little exp, Also ive heard that racing shocks give ur chassis a beating, is it true ?? ? any other suggestions,

ill also be getting a strut bar in the front, want to put one in the rear as well but that means removing my entire ICE, now only if i plan to sell it off and put in the strut behing as well that will improve the handling even more.

brakes ive been told by some that if i jus put in a new Alto brake booster and do a few alterations to the existing disc it helps, OR put in the esteem caliper n disc, but i am not sure what to do ,

HELP. any other suggestions that have been tried n tested ?

@ Cyrus43: that zens bonnet is made of wat .. as its dented quite easily and looks like sumthing when u bend cardboard

Cyrus43 · 1st March 2009, 22:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by k_shanz

Hey nice car dude! How did u mange to keep your filter dry! What you will do when it rains?
anyway liked the work on your car very much!

It is not my car. It is a friend's car.

Quote:

Originally Posted by revtech

push button start is nice.. whats the toggle switch for ?

You have to first flip the toggle switch to on and then press the button.

Quote:

Originally Posted by zeeshan suleman

@ Cyrus43: that zens bonnet is made of wat .. as its dented quite easily and looks like sumthing when u bend cardboard

Its sheet metal. Its not been givin final finishing yet.

28th February 2009, 10:01	#286
archat68 BHPian Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Kolkata Posts: 905 Thanked: 642 Times	Hi Theodore_ftw, The indicators and tail lamps looks nice. How much those cost you?
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28th February 2009, 12:32	#287
zeeshan suleman BHPian Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: mumbai Posts: 172 Thanked: 3 Times View My Garage	Wanna make mine an E-zen Hey guys, i want to tune up my car, i want to put in an esteem engine in the car for much better performance, But also at the same time i want the car to be reliable as well. well i spoke to a tuner friend of mine who has done up lots of carb engined cars till date, he says we can do 2 things: 1. put in an 8 V block and keep the head of the zen only, get new pistons, rings, engine bearings, esteem clutch plate/p.plate and port / polish the head . OR 2. get a 16 V Mpfi esteem engine but change it to carb, put in the carb esteems manifold n carb, get new inner parts ( new pistons, rings, engine bearings, esteem clutch plate/p.plate and port / polish the head . ) Now which is better, the 8 v engine ( only block) or the 16 v mpfi engine changed to carb, my tuner says the 16 v has a much better drive and power as compared to the 8v, please help, also if i go for the 16v the cost DOUBLES, so please advice as i wanna start with this project asap. Also keep in mind while swapping the engine i will retain my old zen engine incase i wanna swap back in future . Thanks, Zeeshan
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28th February 2009, 13:23	#288
WAGON_R BHPian Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: MUMBAI Posts: 60 Thanked: 0 Times	why dont you hook up the mpfi engine itself if you manage to get the ECU, instead of converting the same to carb. yes the 16 v engine will give you better performance than the 8v.
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28th February 2009, 20:54	#289
zeeshan suleman BHPian Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: mumbai Posts: 172 Thanked: 3 Times View My Garage	Got my Self the esteem engine hey guys after looking for over a week i got myself a deal for a 16v esteem engine, got the engine today, will be punching my engine number on it and will be getting delivery on monday, the engine is in pretty good condition, because before buying it my tuner opened the entire engine to check and alls good, now just to port/polish the head change it to carb and fit it and fir the new clutch and were off!!
	() Thanks

1st March 2009, 17:35	#292
Cyrus43 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: London Posts: 5,019 Thanked: 230 Times View My Garage	A brilliant looking E-Zen for everyone. One of the cleanest looking cars i have seen. Attached Thumbnails
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1st March 2009, 18:29	#293
rippergeo Posts: n/a	The engine bay looks nice, but, the air filter is exposed to the elements. How healthy is that? How does the owner manage?
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1st March 2009, 18:36	#294
k_shanz BHPian Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: KL - TEN Posts: 353 Thanked: 75 Times View My Garage	Hey nice car dude! How did u mange to keep your filter dry! What you will do when it rains? anyway liked the work on your car very much! Me too having a zen, but 2006 model! Planning to get an esteem bottom half and a fuel pressure regulator!
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1st March 2009, 18:37	#295
white_vdi BHPian Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: new delhi Posts: 856 Thanked: 38 Times View My Garage	+1 with rippergeo nevertheless that is a very neat looking zen there! even has a push start button. very well maintained. Last edited by white_vdi : 1st March 2009 at 18:38.
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1st March 2009, 18:45	#296
revtech Senior - BHPian Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Bombay Posts: 1,992 Thanked: 39 Times View My Garage	push button start is nice.. whats the toggle switch for ? Rev
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1st March 2009, 19:12	#297
k_shanz BHPian Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: KL - TEN Posts: 353 Thanked: 75 Times View My Garage	Please Help hey! How are you! I like your car very much as it is an E-zen! I am a pure bhp-lover, can u tell me what all u did to swap your engine? I too have a zen and am thinking of swapping it, for now i got only Headers, Filters and Iridium Plugs on my car! Please help. Mine is Mpfi and am thinking of getting a mpfi-esteem bottom-half. Is that your shop `EVO' seen in your rides pics? If so can you tell me how much it will cost for a Fuel Pressure Regulator! Please Help! Attached Thumbnails Attached Images
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1st March 2009, 19:18	#298
k_shanz BHPian Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: KL - TEN Posts: 353 Thanked: 75 Times View My Garage	Perfect 14" tyres for a zen?? Hey anyone knows which one is the best rubber for a 14" Rims on a zen! The size i could normally prefer is 195/40 or 185/40. I have only a mild tune up (10-15 b.h.p), but i want maximum handling over the corners! Now am running on 195/40 size Hankook Ventus Rubber. Am not that satisfied with it, as it is too hard and very low mileage(Wearing)! Please help, also help me in knowing whether the same size is available in Yokohama! It is the best brand for all the tuned enthusiasts! Attached Thumbnails
	() Thanks

1st March 2009, 20:35	#299
zeeshan suleman BHPian Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: mumbai Posts: 172 Thanked: 3 Times View My Garage	@ WAGON_R: yup i got it from chor bazaar, Cost me 25 K, the engine dealer was a relatives friend so i got a good clean deal, its off a totalled car, he told me the engine was 07 model, i had the enitire chamber and head opened to check the engine and it was in mint condition, even the mounts were in great condition, all i need to do is open the entire engine, get it cleaned, refixed , port / polish n were off. @ rohan_fonseca : about the suspension i plan to drive it around for about 500-800 kms without goin over 3000 Rpm to jus set things in, also after that ill see what can be done about the suspensions, Koni is an option but theyre a little exp, Also ive heard that racing shocks give ur chassis a beating, is it true ?? ? any other suggestions, ill also be getting a strut bar in the front, want to put one in the rear as well but that means removing my entire ICE, now only if i plan to sell it off and put in the strut behing as well that will improve the handling even more. brakes ive been told by some that if i jus put in a new Alto brake booster and do a few alterations to the existing disc it helps, OR put in the esteem caliper n disc, but i am not sure what to do , HELP. any other suggestions that have been tried n tested ? @ Cyrus43: that zens bonnet is made of wat .. as its dented quite easily and looks like sumthing when u bend cardboard
	() Thanks