[Sebring]

There is a 'glass coating' option called ULGO from Japan. Their sole showroom DABLER is next to Vega City Mall on Bannerghatta road.

I met them, they understood my requirement and have done a good job. The gloss on my 2017 car is just unreal

There were few problem areas on this old car which they addressed to my satisfaction.

I have prior experience with 3M and ESPERTO (considered the best in the business). This, being the third protective coating on my NEXON.

Note: Request moderators to have a new thread on glass coatings, since this one is on ceramic.

[llamainblue]

Originally Posted by Sebring

There is a 'glass coating' option called ULGO from Japan. Their sole showroom DABLER is next to Vega City Mall on Bannerghatta road.

What is this glass coating now?!

I am still figuring out a good coating option, and went from ceramic to graphene to ceramic and now this new option!?

Can you throw some light on this treatment, cost, life, etc?

[AJ56]

Originally Posted by llamainblue

What is this glass coating now?!

I am still figuring out a good coating option, and went from ceramic to graphene to ceramic and now this new option!?

All 3 are the same. Graphene’s correct term is ‘graphene infused ceramic coating’, base is exactly the same, as is performance.

As for Ulgo, when I first heard about it some time ago, I too got excited. Until I saw the website, typos aside, the first graphic I got was a person setting a bonnet on fire. Followed by an acid and paint thinner test in the same clip, but magically mid test the test panel gets sanded to a complete matte finish

Marketing aside, if your bonnet is on fire and the paint is at hundreds of degrees Celsius, yes the silica resin will survive as silica is inert so the coating is intact, but the paint is long gone (as is the rest of your car.)

Reading further, they claim their nano ceramic resin is ‘harder’ than other nano ceramic coatings, but then state 9H as the pencil hardness, which makes no sense as every major coating is rated 9H on the pencil scale of hardness. If you want a harder coating check out Carpro Dquartz.

Also, they claim it’ll stop wiper scratches, and light scratches on paint. Glass is much, much harder than 9H on the pencil scale (glass is rated on the Mohs scale of mineral hardness with diamond being a 10 and glass being a 6). Same deal with paint scratches, 9H is still very soft and scratches very easily.

Any coating which is silica based is classified as a glass coating/nano coating. As consumers, we should only believe claims backed up by third party certified lab data and hard evidence based testing carried out by third parties. As every brand will market and some like these guys go over the top.

Thats why I like Carpro and Gyeon, they only claim what the product does, no more no less.

[Sebring]

Originally Posted by llamainblue

What is this glass coating now?! Can you throw some light on this treatment, cost, life, etc?

The 'non chemical glass coating' creates a strong durable shield. This has a deep, glossy, smooth, mirror like finish, and shows on the car.

See the shine on the Nexon even after ONE WEEK.

If you search 'ULGO glass coating' even on our TeamBHP you will see examples of stunning transformations BHPians have posted. (Check out the Skodas) .

There will always be competing products, I'm showing what this product has done to mine.

Comes with 5 years warranty.

Here is the website (The Indian site may have typos but that doesn't take away from the product which comes from japan) -

https://ulgocoat.com/

[haridsv]

Originally Posted by Sebring

Note: Request moderators to have a new thread on glass coatings, since this one is on ceramic.

I think Ceramic, Ceramic Glass and Glass are all synonymous in this context as they are based on the same technology.

See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glass-ceramic

[White bird]

3 coatings done on a 2017 car. What is the total amount spent on these coatings so far? Considering the fact that you may be driving the car in Bangalore, how will this coating stand up to the 2 wheeler, autorickshaw test? Will they repair any scratches within five years.

[Sebring]

@WhiteBird I have learnt a lot regarding processes and different coatings. That, to me, is invaluable.

[Aditya]

The Glass Coating Thread | ULGO from Japan - Posts moved to a new thread.

[Roy.S]

Three ceramic coats over almost 8 years is not necessarily overkill. I'm a bit skeptical about this glass coating which seems like another kind of ceramic in a new packaging with the usual over the top claims.

The Nexon looks great, though. I personally am not a fan of ceramic coats but this glass coating might just make a believer out of me.

[Sebring]

That's Hayashi of ULGO, one of the world's top detailer.
Leads/Trains with his ULGO Team.

There are few reels on insta to check out.
https://www.instagram.com/ulgojapan/...ChoTYi-/?hl=en

[llamainblue]

Originally Posted by Sebring

See the shine on the Nexon even after ONE WEEK. https://ulgocoat.com/

I would assume this shine will remain for a while because its a new finish. If it remains like this after a wash after 1 or 2 years, it will hold its value I feel.

Originally Posted by Sebring

Here is the website (The Indian site may have typos but that doesn't take away from the product which comes from japan) -
https://ulgocoat.com/

I was not able to find any Indian contact details on this site, and it mentions very generic details, along with a number starting with 012. Also, it doesn't specify that the product is of Japanese origin, just that it is JAPAN QUALITY STANDARD. Not sure if I missed anything.

I hope this coating holds up to our Bangalore weather and traffic chaos, and I'll be keen to get it done on my car too.

[Sebring]

I found them very supportive.
A customer got his car coated and unfortunately a tree fell really close with the branches grazing the rear.
It scratched away at the coat, but they have restored the finish. See the 'before and after' pictures.

The entry to the place looks run down (unlike other slick showrooms) but they do their job and to me that mattered.
He treats one car every two days for glass coating (he has numerous other products but this glass requires special attention)
and can be reached at 98804 44622 for appointment.

Yes they're not advertising at all, no promotions either.

[X-Factor]

Originally Posted by Sebring

It scratched away at the coat, but they have restored the finish.

Thank you for sharing contact details. Is the restoration covered under 5Y warranty? If you don't mind, how much did it cost for your Nexon full coating?

[Ficture47]

From what I know, putting it simply overall,
Graphene ceramic>Nano diamond ceramic (Carpro DQuartz)>=Ulgo Glass Coating>Regular Ceramic (Carpro CQuartz).

Depends on what you prefer,
- dark and deep colours - Graphene and Nano diamond
- Less dark and rich colours but high gloss and wet look - Ulgo glass
- Higher damage resistance and long durability - Graphene and Nano diamond

Now, if you can get these applied in combinations, you get added benefit, but how much cost justified, is a different story.

[AJ56]

Originally Posted by Ficture47

From what I know, putting it simply overall,
Graphene ceramic>Nano diamond ceramic (Carpro DQuartz)>=Ulgo Glass Coating>Regular Ceramic (Carpro CQuartz).

Now, if you can get these applied in combinations, you get added benefit, but how much cost justified, is a different story.

This is simply not true. What I’m going to say below isn’t my opinion, it’s based on years of hard testing I’ve done as this is what I do every single day (professionally and as a hobby.)

First, no major high end brand even offers graphene as it’s largely marketing. Adding reduced graphene oxide to a silica dioxide base doesn’t do anything for durability/hardness/slickness or hydrophobics and chemical resistance.

It’s like saying the best sports cars are hydrogen fuel based when no major sports car mfg even offers hydrogen cars to begin with due to the tech having major limitations.

Turtle is one budget brand that does offer graphene and it failed multiple times in well under two years in my testing. (If you don’t want my word for it, see other detailers’ long term durability tests on YouTube, same result.)

Ulgo, CQuartz, and DQuartz are all silica based ceramic/glass/nano coatings (different terms, same meaning) as silica is the main element found in glass.

DQuartz actually has detonated nano diamonds in it, it’s not marketing, and it is physically harder than 9H on the pencil scale, they have SGS certification data to back this up.

Now it’s a relatively new formulation but given it’s based off CQuartz, which is one of the best in the industry, I have no doubt it’ll do very well. It’s holding up well in my test on my daily driven cars, but it’s still too early to confirm anything. (As real world durability tests take years to complete.)

Also, don’t mix and match coatings by yourself, they’re formulated by chemists with a lot of R&D, it’s like mixing medicines, all you do is negatively impacting the coatings performance. There is no benefit to layering with the current gen formulations (unless it’s a two part system).

Sidenote regarding gloss:

I keep seeing coatings being associated with gloss, this is again not true. On properly corrected paint, a coating adds zero gloss.

What gives paint gloss is proper machine polishing to remove surface defects and reduce orange peel (surface texture/distortion), hence the term paint correction.

Properly polished paint looks liquid wet with razor sharp reflections and image clarity. Adding a coating will have zero change in gloss, it will add hydrophobic properties and a lot of slickness, chemical and UV protection, minor hardness increase, but not gloss.

Again, not my opinion, you can check with a gloss meter and DOI (distinctness of image meter) to verify this for yourself.

If you apply a coating and it makes the paint look glossier/more shiny, you didn’t polish and correct it properly. In fact, a key point we test for is haze that certain cheaper coating chemistries can impart to the paint. A coating that doesn’t add any haze is the ideal.

Having said that, you never want to leave perfectly polished ‘naked’, you want to protect it with a coating or a spray sealant at the very least.

Originally Posted by Sebring

Here is the website (The Indian site may have typos but that doesn't take away from the product which comes from japan) -

Coming from Japan is no guarantee of quality, just ask Nissan Jatco transmission owners or Takata airbag victims or Toyota foot mat victims

What matters is that you’re happy with the service and product you bought, I think you’ll get a few years out of it if washed safely.