[vredesbyrd]

Originally Posted by GrimZ23

Hello fellow Bhpians, Greetings from Lucknow!

Exceptional taste in mods, both performance and visual.
I think it's time for a Lucknow TBHP meet.

[src]

Originally Posted by GrimZ23

Hello fellow Bhpians, Greetings from Lucknow! It has been a long time since I’ve been lurking the forums but never got the guts to post. But now it feels like a dream come true to finally post about the modifications I have done to my Honda City 5th Gen. I’m sorry for any grammatical mistakes I might commit in my post. I’m here to get advise from my dear seniors on future mods as well as to showcase what I have done so far.

This is my City, (aka @notyourcity ). I would really appreciate if respected members give their opinion on the current build as well as my future plans.

Nice modifications Buddy. But you had one accident if I remember correctly.
How did you manage to get that changed/repainted.

[GrimZ23]

Originally Posted by Sids85

Love the mods, especially the bumpers look lit. But didnt it void warranty on the car?

Thank you. The warranty is an issue, but there is someone known at my service centre so I don’t have to go through much hassle

Originally Posted by superblover

I disagree. Kindly check out Race Concepts in Bangalore. They have been extensively working on the City over it's various generations and have turbocharged the VTEC as well. Kindly request the OP to get in touch with them regarding the turbocharging possibility for the car.

https://Youtu.be/2yiRLs6BgOk?si=lBFeg_sHhSf9zr9p

Thank you for your response and your suggestion. I’ll definitely contact Race Concepts Bangalore to discuss the possibilities.

Originally Posted by src

Nice modifications Buddy. But you had one accident if I remember correctly.
How did you manage to get that changed/repainted.

Yes sir, I was involved in an accident on the day of Diwali when a Drunk E rickshaw driver rammed into me. Thankfully the damage wasn’t extensive and was repaired by Grease Monkey Automotive Lucknow within a week. They got the dent out and repainted the rear door and quarter panel, the damaged alloy was replaced with the spare tire

Originally Posted by vredesbyrd

Exceptional taste in mods, both performance and visual.
I think it's time for a Lucknow TBHP meet.

Thank you so much. I do agree with you, it is the perfect time for a TBHP meet-up in Lucknow! Would love to meet senior BHPians from all around the globe.

Originally Posted by ssjr0498

I have been running a B16b type R, turbocharged from the past 6-7 years in my humble OHC Vtec! Just a word of advice, "cheap and fast wont be reliable, fast and reliable, wont be cheap", not saying that you will cheap out, but please remember this so that you buy once and cry once. It is a headache to redo things and given we have limited resources for parts in the country, it can bite you really bad. Also, please please do a thorough research before you take a plunge into this black hole!
Best wishes for your build!

WOW! What a build you have, can I know more about your car. What are the performance figures, reliability, issues you faced and most importantly how many smiles per km? Also Thank you so much for your response. My motto has always been “buy once, cry once”. I’ll be definitely doing thorough research and only then will I dive into this jdm hole.

[GrimZ23]

Originally Posted by Doge

If you want to go crazy, I would rather look at swapping the engine for the 2.4 in the Accord rather than turboing this one. I saw a couple of Jazz(s) at sportech greater Noida with the Accord engine, I believe Faisal Khan did a video on one of them. You can contact Harsh, the owner of the workshop to enquire, if I remember he correctly he has also super charged and turbo charged Honda's before.
I personally feel it would be cheaper and less of a hassle to just sell the City for a Virtus/ Slavia and mess around with it. As an ex third gen owner who had to get rid of the car because of the dumb NCR ban, the best part of the City to me has always been how bulletproof and fill it and shut it kind of car it was, in my 13 years and more of ownership. The engine also was and is still a gem, would anyday chose the ivtec over the new 3 cylinder turbos.
So try to not ruin this aspect of the Honda!

Not gonna lie, engine swap was the first thing that came in my mind. I also thought about putting the 3.0 V6, shifting the battery to the boot, but I have done till date only 33k kms so I do not want to swap my original engine. I do get your point that it is much more practical to just get a virtus or verna, but the Honda fanboy in me isn’t ready to let go of City.
I too have the same mentality about the reliability and I promise you I’ll try my utmost best to not ruin the Honda aspect.

Originally Posted by Doge

If you want to go crazy, I would rather look at swapping the engine for the 2.4 in the Accord rather than turboing this one. I saw a couple of Jazz(s) at sportech greater Noida with the Accord engine, I believe Faisal Khan did a video on one of them. You can contact Harsh, the owner of the workshop to enquire, if I remember he correctly he has also super charged and turbo charged Honda's before.
I personally feel it would be cheaper and less of a hassle to just sell the City for a Virtus/ Slavia and mess around with it. As an ex third gen owner who had to get rid of the car because of the dumb NCR ban, the best part of the City to me has always been how bulletproof and fill it and shut it kind of car it was, in my 13 years and more of ownership. The engine also was and is still a gem, would anyday chose the ivtec over the new 3 cylinder turbos.
So try to not ruin this aspect of the Honda!

Also my plan to go completely bonkers is not with City. But with a 2.0 TSI Polo

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[GrimZ23]

Originally Posted by Tokengrip

Car looks fab and i think your mods have been done with a lot of taste. Love the effort with regard to the lights and the bumper. Really love the bumper upgrade.!

I think it's time for a alloy wheel upgrade. Something in black ideally to bring out the final look. Would really complete the look.

PS- do get rid of the rubber paddings on the door.

Thank you so much. Definitely an alloy wheel upgrade is needed, I’m still looking for options as currently my budget is divided between complete free flow exhaust and a custom rear bumper. Rubber paddings as in the door guards? I like them personally they too are from Honda general accessories with a small H logo

Originally Posted by Tony2298

What a beautiful car you've made! I'm literally in awe, this is what Hondas are capable of, only if Honda Cars India Limited launches some of these tasty RS editions and even better with VTEC Turbo engines I see them shoot up amongst the enthusiasts once again.

I really love Honda right from childhood, my love was ignited back in the day with their CBR Fireblade motorcycles, their astounding performance in MotoGP with Valentino Rossi and in F1 with Ayrton Senna, they were a force to be reckoned with.

Their Indian innings started so well with the City 1st gen being so good it easily outshone the better built Mitsubishi Lancer, then their Civic, Accord and CRV were the numero uno choice among the affluent. Even though Skoda was right up there and they pushed the bar even further with TSi engines even back then, reliability issues is what made people choose Honda, they simply knew how to deliver fun without hampering reliability.

The 8th gen Civic is and will always remain my favourite car ever, those sleek lines, sexy silhouette, creamy 1.8 i-VTEC with crisp MT box and futuristic spaceship like interior and cool instrument cluster wows me even today! I remember being in my high school days back when Civic was launched, there was a small tent set up near my school and a shiny black Civic standing right there, I rushed towards the car, the SA understood my excitement and allowed me to sit on the driver's seat, man the experience was surreal. I took the brochure and price list, went to my home, pestered my Dad to buy one even though I knew it was way out of reach of us, I even scored very high in my Physics exams to please him but sadly we couldn't buy one.

Just have a look at it. Still looks stunning!
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In recent times I did want to acquire the CRV back in 2020, even arranged the cash required to get one but sadly Honda decided to discontinue the CRV&Civic as they sold their Greater Noida plant.

As of now they have a short but good lineup however it's not what I saw Honda back as a kid, all of their aspirational products are gone from India with very thin chances of returning. City, a brilliant car overall is sadly selling in low volumes since people find VAG sedans better overall and it is being cannibalised by its own siblings the Elevate and Amaze.

Still, if I were to choose a car from Honda lineup it would be the City, i-VTEC for sure in MT. The car delivers everything, performance, reliability and tech along with Honda's excellent service and warranty packages and it might be a personal opinion but I find the exteriors and interiors the most balanced in terms of look and quality. City looks sharp especially in the Obsidian Blue paint shade and most eye pleasing IMHO.

You've done a fab job of modifying your City and I've been following you in Facebook too as a member of Honda City fan club. Loved your modifications!

Thank you
Tony

Thank you so much Tony! You are absolutely right, Honda should get us atleast the turbo engines as well as the new civic. Honda needs to up their game in India they have very low sales right now. I believe that both city and amaze saved them in India.

Believe me if I could travel back in time I would get the 1.8 Civic! I too have a similar story when we went to get our second Honda City (dolphin) I saw the civic for the first time and I was instantly in love with it! I legit have a photographic memory of the cluster till date.

Originally Posted by F10D1061

Hey, great mods, both aesthetic and mechanical.

Some more mods I'd suggest:

1. The turbocharger. Ask the same guys who did your ecu if they know someone and if they can help you in sourcing it.

2. End to end exhaust. The 1.5NA is a 4cyl and as such has some room to play with the headers. You can try with Automech Mumbai and ask for the same.
This definitely gives a noticeable torque boost (never measured, only feeling in the pants measurement) even for low capacity NA cars in daily driving.
One more neat trick would be trying a direct 4 to 1 setup, which would greatly increase your top end at the cost of your low end. Else a more standard 4 2 1 setup is recommended by me to keep things practical.

3. Bigger and better brakes. You need negative acceleration more than positive acceleration. Replace the entire brake calipers please. Either use good aftermarket brands or go for OEMs of the civic etc. They may be compatible.

4. Stiffer suspension. I don't recommend lowering the city for the roads we drove on, but a stiffer suspension with better shocks would definitely make it a nimble handler with the yokos.

Atb, and looking to hearing from you soon. You're an inspiration to peeps like me to get more mods in spite of parental intervention.

Thank you so much for the suggestion. Also if my parents find out about the how much exactly I have spent on City, I’ll definitely be thrown out and told to sleep in it xD. But they are also proud that I haven’t taken a single penny from them (except that they bought the car)

1. Both me and Grease Monkey are trying our level best to make the turbo possible, we are trying our level best to collect knowledge before doing the turbo kit, right now we are trying to get our hands on a standalone ECU.

2. Yes we are doing an end to end setup and it will be completed by February.

3. Planning to change the rear drum brakes to disc brakes as well as looking for better Brake discs preferably going for drilled Brembo, the only problem is finding parts in India.

4. Planning for Coilover suspension and stiffer shocks.

So basically everything is still in R&D process but promise it will be done.

Originally Posted by Vignesh_N/A

The keyword here is "reliable build". I would suggest OP to do proper research before handing over the car to anyone.

Definitely. I got this plan in my mind after watching a City hatchback turbocharged in Malaysia, so I thought if they can do it why can’t I. But will look after every prospect before turbocharging.

Originally Posted by superblover

Reliability is inherently thrown out the window once you start tinkering with the mechanicals of a car. Its subjective and any claims of reliability have incredible variance. No single tuner can ever test as much as an automotive OEM and there will always be tradeoffs on the peace of mind front. Race Concepts haven't just slapped on a turbocharger and called it a day. They redesign the internals from the ground up with custom forged pistons and crankshafts and what not, to ensure safety while increasing power (Like any good tuner should). Kindly take a look at this video where they detail a first gen turbocharged City.

https://www.Youtube.com/watch?v=7sfNNoe7MCM

Disclaimer: I am not affiliated to them in any way. Just wanted to highlight someone doing good work for others to see.

I do acknowledge that I will have to do a complete overhaul of the internals. I have watched each and every video of them on YouTube and I’ll only go for it if the car remains reliable enough.

Originally Posted by reignofchaos

I suggest you read up on this very forum about how these guys ruined some cars from fellow BHP'ians . There are many documented cases of massive booboos.

And no tuning a vehicle up doesn't mean reliability goes out of the window. Absolutely don't agree with that. Anyways this is where I shut up as this is OT.

@GrimZ23: Nice car but be very very sure of what you want to do.

Thank you so much. I’ll make sure to read and collect every bit of knowledge available before doing such a massive change. Reliability will still be a top priority and I do agree that tuning and custom builds don’t mean that they are not reliable. According to me Custom builds require a bit more care and effort than stock.

[Jabberwocky]

Love what you have done with the car. Can't wait to see more.

On the turbo upgrade project, why don't you stick to Honda's own catalogue? The basic engines are shared amongst many global models. Check out if your engine has a turbocharged variant, and work from there. You probably will have to import parts mostly from Japan, Thailand or the USA I would guess. Maybe you'll get lucky and find some parts locally from other Honda cars old or current.

I mean off the top of my head, you will need new injectors, maybe new pistons and cams, new fuel pump, maybe new radiator, maybe new headers, new intercooler etc. You will also have to upgrade ancillary parts such as bigger brakes, maybe bigger wheels depending on the brake size, maybe a transmission overhaul to handle the extra torque and power, upgrade the differential for the same reason and all that. So parts are going to be a headache if not planned for properly in advance.

Either way Good Luck and Godspeed. I eagerly await your updates on your car.

[NinerWhiskey]

Originally Posted by saikishor

What a beautiful car you have there! I must say youu are living my dream.

Have you considered any suspension upgrades like lowering springs? These should take care of the wallowy handling of the City.
Would also suggest some window tints to make your ride look even cooler.

Regarding the turbocharger, not sure if someone in our country has the expertise to take on such a task. I would suggest not to do this exercise, as long term reliability would be a concern.

Also, may I suggest some alloy wheels for your car? Maybe something like the ones on the Mitsubishi Evo X:

Lastly, one small nifty mod I would suggest is to get rid of the halogen indicator and reverse light bulbs at the rear. Swap them with LED's.

Excellent modifications! All your mods suit the car because it has a sporty look from all angles. I've come across people trying to mod the 4th gen and it's awful because the car has a sweet look rather than a sporty.

Rolls Royce Mansory kits sometimes come with light illumination inside the front grille, Why not try it out?

[AROO7]

Originally Posted by GrimZ23

Hello fellow Bhpians, Greetings from Lucknow! It has been a long time since I’ve been lurking the forums but never got the guts to post. But now it feels like a dream come true to finally post about the modifications I have done to my Honda City 5th Gen.

Hi there! What a coincidence, few days back only I was discussing with my friend (Honda fanboy and City owner) about spotting a Nardo Grey Honda City in Lucknow and bang here comes your post. Such a small world I must say .



Here is the pic I snapped of your car near Madhurima Sweets Gomti Nagar. I was really impressed with the looks and more so with the exhaust note. Looking forward to see you again.

[GrimZ23]

Originally Posted by Jabberwocky

Love what you have done with the car. Can't wait to see more.

On the turbo upgrade project, why don't you stick to Honda's own catalogue? The basic engines are shared amongst many global models. Check out if your engine has a turbocharged variant, and work from there. You probably will have to import parts mostly from Japan, Thailand or the USA I would guess. Maybe you'll get lucky and find some parts locally from other Honda cars old or current.

I mean off the top of my head, you will need new injectors, maybe new pistons and cams, new fuel pump, maybe new radiator, maybe new headers, new intercooler etc. You will also have to upgrade ancillary parts such as bigger brakes, maybe bigger wheels depending on the brake size, maybe a transmission overhaul to handle the extra torque and power, upgrade the differential for the same reason and all that. So parts are going to be a headache if not planned for properly in advance.

Either way Good Luck and Godspeed. I eagerly await your updates on your car.

Thank you so much! I have been researching thoroughly about how other Honda 1.5 turbo engines work, specifically the 1.5 Turbo in the Civic RS. I do acknowledge I’ll have to do a complete hardware overhaul including everything you mentioned above along with new fuel lines and fabrication, brakes I’m getting soon most probably drilled ones and swapping the rear drum to discs. I’ll make sure to get all the necessary parts before jumping into the build.
Thank you so much for your wishes and I’ll keep updating the forum.

Originally Posted by NinerWhiskey

Excellent modifications! All your mods suit the car because it has a sporty look from all angles. I've come across people trying to mod the 4th gen and it's awful because the car has a sweet look rather than a sporty.

Rolls Royce Mansory kits sometimes come with light illumination inside the front grille, Why not try it out?

Thank you so much. I did look at the illuminated grills of the Accord in the US market but they aren’t my cup of tea.

Originally Posted by AROO7

Hi there! What a coincidence, few days back only I was discussing with my friend (Honda fanboy and City owner) about spotting a Nardo Grey Honda City in Lucknow and bang here comes your post. Such a small world I must say .

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Here is the pic I snapped of your car near Madhurima Sweets Gomti Nagar. I was really impressed with the looks and more so with the exhaust note. Looking forward to see you again.

We do live in a small world! Thank you so much hoping to meet you again with a better exhaust note.

[lemedico]

I hope the Honda executives are watching your thread, and take inspiration that their cars have such potential.

Then again, they are participating at bharat mobility and I wonder what's on display!

Any idea if you can swap out the front seats and install something with ventilation fans? Like from a different company?

[Ashishknainan]

Originally Posted by GrimZ23

This is my City. I would really appreciate if respected members give their opinion on the current build as well as my future plans.

The front looks menacingly good. I would love to do the front looks, especially the chrome and the logo. There are many firsts for a Honda city as far as I know with your car. Well done and keep us posted.

[Sabertooth93]

How much was the cost for the front bumper and is it available outside Lucknow. Also, could you please share a video so that we can listen to that exhaust note.

[JunkyardHunter]

Hey, is the new exhaust on yet? If so, what does it sound like?

[Aurora Zero]

Holy moly, that is one of the most beautiful Cities I've ever seen. I'm indeed speechless by the effort and time (and not to mention money) you've put into making this car truly one of a kind. I am also looking forward to fixing a Mugen Kit on a 3rd Gen Honda City (kind of a budget project car build). That one beautiful car, enjoy that beauty

[Beam_it_Vikk]

Oh boy!
It looks amazing.
Does installing a turbocharger void the warranty?