[jkrishnakj]

I have a question, as a fellow Jimny owner.

Car A has this device installed. Car B (same model and trim) is stock. Assume two drivers with equivalent capability starting both these cars at the same time.

Car A will have a nip and get ahead quicker. After the acceleration pedal travels more than 50%, the device has altered signals to the throttle already. Car B may start slow but would soon catch up on the move and there will be more response to the pressing of the accelerator pedal.

So, why would someone really want to use this?

[gsferrari]

Originally Posted by jkrishnakj

I have a question, as a fellow Jimny owner.

Car A has this device installed. Car B (same model and trim) is stock. Assume two drivers with equivalent capability starting both these cars at the same time.

Car A will have a nip and get ahead quicker. After the acceleration pedal travels more than 50%, the device has altered signals to the throttle already. Car B may start slow but would soon catch up on the move and there will be more response to the pressing of the accelerator pedal.

So, why would someone really want to use this?

Please watch my review at 4:10

https://youtu.be/U5IGGZKfRI0?t=254

How will you catch up assuming both vehicles reach the same top speed but A gets there sooner than B?

[audioholic]

Thats way too overpriced for what this thing does. Even larger and reputed brands like Racechip, Pedalbox charge similar price or lesser for their pedal tuning boxes which are also sold with certifications. These boxes cost like half the money on Aliexpress and are just rebranded and sold here for a huge margin.

[Rahul Lal]

I got evcX model (having mobile app option) for Rs 16,700/- couple of weeks back directly from Ultimate9, Australia. This price included shipping & custom duty. However since last few days they have stopped selling directly to India.

[PrasadS]

Thank you for the thread. I wasn't even aware that such a simple plug and play device existed.

I learnt to rev match a couple of years ago. My biggest gripe with my Skoda Rapid TDI is the lag and small jerk when i quickly downshift e.g. from 5th to 3rd to do a quick overtake. I do blip the throttle, but being a diesel, the revs don't climb to the sweet spot i want resulting in the jerk.

Looking at the above scenario, am i correct in assuming that a throttle controller would help?

[jkrishnakj]

Originally Posted by gsferrari

Please watch my review at 4:10


How will you catch up assuming both vehicles reach the same top speed but A gets there sooner than B?

A would only have that initial pep isn’t it? By the time A gets to top speed, B will slowly get to the sweet spot where the Jimny actually behaves better and the car responds better to throttle input whereas in A, beyond the initial pep with the accelerator pedal movement, the rest of the press to the pedal may not make a difference? No?

[Ragul]

Originally Posted by audioholic

Thats way too overpriced for what this thing does. Even larger and reputed brands like Racechip, Pedalbox charge similar price or lesser for their pedal tuning boxes which are also sold with certifications. These boxes cost like half the money on Aliexpress and are just rebranded and sold here for a huge margin.

So what are the other cheaper options in India without the hassle of importing from abroad? I don’t see why this thread should be limited to just one single brand…

[audioholic]

Originally Posted by Ragul

So what are the other cheaper options in India without the hassle of importing from abroad? I don’t see why this thread should be limited to just one single brand…

With most brands there is no hassle of importing to India when you are a private buyer. Even if you end up paying customs duty it will most of the times be a lot cheaper than buying from local resellers since you will only end up paying their overheads and margins. And except for consignments from China , rest are all cleared within a day or two by customs and in case is shipped by Fedex/DHL it arrives in no time. Hence all you have to do is to choose the product and then check if they ship to India. If that’s still not cheap then local reseller would be a better choice.

[Red Liner]

Originally Posted by PrasadS

Looking at the above scenario, am i correct in assuming that a throttle controller would help?

Remap your car with a reliable tuner (plenty of threads exist) and enjoy your car. This kind of chip makes sense only for NA engines, if at all.

[sagarpadaki]

So, if I understand correctly, in layman terms, the throttle enhancer makes the throttle plate to open to the commanded position faster than the factory spec. Say, if the factory spec takes 5 seconds(exaggerating) to open the throttle plate to 50% open when accelerator pedal is pressed, this module will make it open in 3 seconds, thereby increasing the 'pick up'.

[gsferrari]

Originally Posted by sagarpadaki

So, if I understand correctly, in layman terms, the throttle enhancer makes the throttle plate to open to the commanded position faster than the factory spec. Say, if the factory spec takes 5 seconds(exaggerating) to open the throttle plate to 50% open when accelerator pedal is pressed, this module will make it open in 3 seconds, thereby increasing the 'pick up'.

It is less about the speed of opening as opposed to the amount of throttle pedal action required to achieve 100% opening.

If stock setting is 1:1 then the throttle tuner makes it 0.5:1 or 0.3:1 etc. depending on the settings you choose on the control module.

Then there is the speed of the throttle body opening itself like you said. The throttle body opens faster and without the stock delay curve. This is also one parameter that adjusts according to the setting you choose on the control module.

There are two functions:
1. How much pedal travel is needed to achieve 100% throttle opening
2. How quickly the throttle body moves in sync with your throttle pedal action

People are comparing this with remaps which is comparing apples and oranges. Sure you can play with these settings within the map itself if you are so inclined but you are LOCKED into one mode because you cannot keep changing the map each time you want a different throttle response. The uninformed keep propagating this incorrect information and justifying it.

A remapped vehicle will benefit from a throttle tuner just as much as a stock vehicle. These are two different things.

[aerohit]

Originally Posted by Mr. Nobody

So many posts and no details of the the price. Can anyone mention the cost as without pricing a review is incomplete.

These toys are cheaply available on Chinese ecommerce portals (considering they are all made in China).

Attached sample screenshot.

If you buy in bulk it's $10. Dont get ripped off.

[udy]

Just for my understanding, how different is this from the Dieseltronic Box from Race Dynamics?. Planning on a similar upgrade for my Thar and wanted to understand the differences.

[Kosfactor]

Originally Posted by aerohit

These toys are cheaply available on Chinese ecommerce portals (considering they are all made in China).

Attached sample screenshot.

If you buy in bulk it's $10. Dont get ripped off.

This is crazy ,this less than 1000 INR device is what our fellow BHPians are installing on their pride and joy!

[shankar.balan]

Originally Posted by Kosfactor

This is crazy ,this less than 1000 INR device is what our fellow BHPians are installing on their pride and joy!

You are over-simplifying things which is also misleading.

Please see the following links and pricing.

https://www.ultimate9.co/au/our-rang...ntrollers.html

https://roarpedal.com/products/roar-...EaAoWjEALw_wcB

https://bullydog.com/products/bully-...ottle-booster/

These products would not be freely sold in markets like ANZ and USA and they certainly would not be popular if they didn’t work.