[avanishphatak]

Sounds reasonable. The police are doing their job. Its commendable that they learnt the tricks of trade or roped in experts who can detect mods. Of course things like aftermarket HID, bullbars, engine remapping, overpowered horns, low profile tyres, exhaust manipulation, impacts either the passenger safety, or environmental factors.

We aren't a perfect country, there are issues with quality of road, violations, unscientific speed breakers and missing road signs. But someone has to start somewhere.

Imagine doing all these in European or American countries. The DMV/ETSC will make one's life miserable.

On the positive side, its good to know the RTO in Kerala are making use of the expertise on such esteemed forums and ensuring things are dealt with.

[ashwinprakas]

Originally Posted by Vasuki

I'm having Topcase and side panniers on my bike. Will I be stopped/fined? Technically/Legally can we use these types of hard carriers?

Also mine is Multistrada and boy does it make a proper ducati racket. Hope they don't catch us with stock exhausts.

In the past I've been told that convenience modifications such as panniers and boxes are permissible, but I'm yet to see any document furnishing the same in writing.

The upside of owning a Ducati from where I see things is that at least the same could be passed off as a factory piece irrespective of accessories as the cops would be none the wiser, I wish if only the same could be said about Hamara Bajaj products, which is highly unlikely considering that the previous posts mention that the cops are knowledgeable.

[Vasuki]

Originally Posted by ashwinprakas

In the past I've been told that convenience modifications such as panniers and boxes are permissible, but I'm yet to see any document furnishing the same in writing.

The upside of owning a Ducati from where I see things is that at least the same could be passed off as a factory piece irrespective of accessories as the cops would be none the wiser, I wish if only the same could be said about Hamara Bajaj products, which is highly unlikely considering that the previous posts mention that the cops are knowledgeable.

Hope what you say holds true.

BTW can cops confiscate a vehicle for such offences?

I thought they could only challan it and send you a notice to appear before the judge.

[ashwinprakas]

Originally Posted by Vasuki

Hope what you say holds true.

BTW can cops confiscate a vehicle for such offences?

I thought they could only challan it and send you a notice to appear before the judge.

They can confiscate the vehicle, a few years ago a friends R15v2 had been confiscated for apparently riding rashly as per him.

He had to go to court and could only get the motorcycle back on the road after a retest.

Not sure what kind of modifications he had at the time, but the dude in question is a hardcore poser, hence I presume the worst kind.

[Samurai]

Mahindra Thar, a hard core 4x4 is delivered with highway tyres. If the tyres can't be changed to AT or MT, then what is the point? Are they objecting only to upsize or even the type of tyres?

[avira_tk]

This is a shakedown and the purpose is pretty simple, extort money from the dealers whose business will be affected. Once complete, the next new public enemy will be identified and the circus will repeat. I don't know what connection is between remapping your car to having an accident. Most accidents are caused by imbeciles who have been given licenses by the moral guardians running the crackdown.

[hserus]

Originally Posted by Samurai

Mahindra Thar, a hard core 4x4 is delivered with highway tyres. If the tyres can't be changed to AT or MT, then what is the point? Are they objecting only to upsize or even the type of tyres?

Oversized tyres that project beyond the wheel walls or where the suspension needs to be adjusted are likely to be noticed and caught. A single size upsize such as brings under 2% of difference might not catch anyone's attention.

[Steeroid]

Deleted. Do not wish to debate, on second thoughts.

[hserus]

Originally Posted by Steeroid

The way they are going about it, one would think that the biggest crimes in Kerala are rims that stick out slightly, or vehicles that are done up by their owners. Not political murders that occur regularly in broad daylight, not the open goonda-giri by trade unions, not the forcible shutting down of establishments in the name of protests (some of them government sponsored).

We cannot really argue that the Kerala MVD is enforcing the motor vehicles act, they are not police officers so their remit is MV act violations. They can't do a thing about either hartals or political goons and nor can their usual partners the traffic police. Also not taking action against X doesn't ever justify "why is action not taken against x but action is taken against y?"

Once the Kerala RTO has started this, the best way to go is to start tagging them on the same social media they use ++ the Kerala CM's twitter, local city traffic police twitter etc, pointing out various travels buses with six aux lights, overloud air horns etc.

The enforcement is going to continue, in any case, so lose the aux lights and downsize your tyres to the extent that they at least fit inside the wheel walls.

[Steeroid]

Originally Posted by hserus

We cannot really argue that the Kerala MVD is enforcing the motor vehicles act, they are not police officers so their remit is MV act violations. They can't do a thing about either hartals or political goons and nor can their usual partners the traffic police.

I think you’re reading the post very literally. I don’t wish to argue about this - some people are trying to figure out what options are available, and I think I will stick to the “kaam chaalu, muh bandh” philosophy in this case instead of wasting time on idle commentary. Wasim has shown that it is possible to stop harassment in the name of wishy washy interpretations of “law” by taking on similar harassment of outstation vehicles in Bangalore. Not everyone will sit around and just let things happen.

Deleting my post, since it is quite likely that people would prefer to be seen as being politically correct, than actually examine the issue in depth.

[hserus]

Originally Posted by Steeroid

I think you’re reading the post very literally. I don’t wish to argue about this - some people are trying to figure out what their options are, and I think I will stick to the “kaam chaalu, muh bandh” philosophy on this case instead of wasting time on idle commentary.

Deleting my post, since it is quite likely that people would prefer to be seen to be politically correct rather than examine the issue in depth.

As others pointed out, if some of these mods were tried in the USA or Germany, the car owners would be neck deep in paperwork and fines.

If a lazy old street dog that's spent most of its days eating and sleeping under a tree instead of doing guard duty suddenly turns into a ferocious Doberman .. well, there must be surprise, but it is doing its job.

[Steeroid]

Originally Posted by hserus

As others pointed out, if some of these mods were tried in the USA or Germany, the car owners would be neck deep in paperwork and fines.

If a lazy old street dog that's spent most of its days eating and sleeping under a tree instead of doing guard duty suddenly turns into a ferocious Doberman .. well, there must be surprise, but it is doing its job.

We shall see. Thank you for the deeply philosophical observation.

[neil.jericho]

To be fair to the officials, the law is the law and they are doing their job in enforcing it. If the law says modifications to vehicles are not permitted, then it is what it is. Lets try to change the law then by working through the right channels.

When government officials arent visibly seen doing their jobs, Indian citizens complain about it. Now when government officials are visibly seen doing their jobs, Indian citizens complain about it. Strange are the times that we live in.

Originally Posted by Vasuki

OT :: The first thing I asked my ducati service personnel was whether they can reduce the sound of my stock exhaust. LOL. They literally fell off the chair. He told me I'm the first person with such request, normally guys here want more noise. Anyway I'm coming from an inline four, so..

My Street Triple is on its stock exhaust as well. The motorcycle feels like such a tamed beast as compared to other Street Triples with their Arrow exhausts but it is the price to pay for riding with peace of mind.

[hserus]

Originally Posted by neil.jericho

My Street Triple is on its stock exhaust as well. The motorcycle feels like such a tamed beast as compared to other Street Triples with their Arrow exhausts but it is the price to pay for riding with peace of mind.

Does the stock vs arrow exhaust make any difference at all to torque, acceleration or anything else other than the noise?

[neil.jericho]

Originally Posted by hserus

Does the stock vs arrow exhaust make any difference at all to torque, acceleration or anything else other than the noise?

The map used with the stock exhaust churns out 79 HP. That's the Brazil spec as far as I know and how the bike was rolled out of the Triumph showrooms in India. Thanks to the detune fixing saga, along with the Arrow exhaust, the engines of Triple 675s were remapped as well. I believe this is a Euro spec map with a higher power output, Im not sure of the claimed output as I didnt own the motorcycle at that time.

P.S - You say noise, I say sound. Po-ta-to. Po-tah-toh.