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Simple mathematics. A ceramic coating for a sedan would cost somewhere around 30 to 35k and would last for say 2 years. That's the time frame till around which a factory finish would hold onto as well! Same thing goes for PPF! I installed PPF for bumpers and ORVMs. Started to crack and peel in 3rd year with ditty ugly marks.
And these protect against minor scratches. Not against even a minor ding!
So in my opinion, it would be better to get the car repainted at around the 7 th year mark with a proper inside out rust treatment and a fresh coat! That should set back by 50 to 60 k. But you do have a almost new car that would last for another 6 to 7 years easily given timely required maintanence is done

Google is everyones friend! Please research on coatings, pros and cons as well as good detailers in your area. Getting a good ceramic coat is absolutely worth it for a car guy. Many people in this line of work are misleading people, but social media if used properly educates everyone. Leaving you with a pic of my 7 month old coated car mirror mirror on the wall, who is the prettiest of them all :D , heck i would get a coating if i bought an alto or a ferrari!
As an auto enthusiast my car is my love :thumbs up

Also no offence to all the gentlemen recomending car repaint, dear sirs please get it done and see the reasale of your car sink like tittanic if your ever plan to sell it in the future!

Hello everybody!

My ceramic coated Creta has completed approx. 26-27 months and accumulated a decent amount of micro-scratches and spider-webbing. It recently acquired some noticeably scratch marks on the bonnet, which I suspect to be either monkeys or mischief. Thinking about getting some polishing/paint correction to get rid of these unsightly bits.

The car is still pretty glossy. I have washed it myself (waterless method/Pressure wash) or gotten it detailed. It does get parked out in the open though, so dust is inevitable in the NCR. I also try to cover it when viable (have a heavy duty micro-fiber lined fitted cover), and sometimes use a wax duster to get rid of light dust.

I am looking for a detailer or even a painter who can do a good polishing job, and hopefully, preserve some of the original modest coating. I live in South Delhi and work in Central Delhi - so would prefer these locations. Ideally someplace I can drop and collect the car on the same day.

Not looking for another coating at the moment, as I am quite happy with the sprays from Turtle Wax/Meguair's. If you think this can be a DIY project (without buying a polisher), I am all ears.

Hey Amey,

Its an Old post but wanted to know if you managed to find a good shop in Gurgaon / Delhi ?

Looking to get my Kodiaq Ceramic coated.

Thanks !

Hi,
Leoshashi reviewed a place, 5c detailers in gurgaon give them a look, the owner seems genuine and knowledgable. I am in no way associated to him, neither have used his services, hence have no commercial interest whatsoever :thumbs up

Also there is OCD detail studio in gurgaon run by saurabh vikas, does a great job but in my opinion is overpriced. You can compare both and choose as per your requirements


Wherever you get your car done please see the products used and if possible please get the coating applied in your presence.

Cheers

Hi, i would suggest you go to the guy who coated the car, he would know what product was used for ceramic, any attempt to buff the existing coating without knowing what was applied will result in you losing the coat.

Cheers

Few points-

1) Factory finish lasts 15+ years easily, there’s no need to repaint or do rust removal every 6-7 years on a modern paint system.

2) Repaint is never as good factory finish, and would cost 1.8-2L from a high end body shop if any justice is to be done to the final finish.

3) Ceramic does not protect against scratches and dents, PPF does to some extent but never do partial PPF as it shows within a few months as the film slowly starts to yellow.

4) A 2 year coating should be 20-25k, if you’re dropping 35k then you should be getting a 3 year coating.

Avoid the dealer, go to a pro detailer whose primary business is paint protection and ceramic coatings. For dealers it’s often outsourced to the cheapest service providers or done in house by workers often not skilled and lacking the proper tools and products for a good result.

List of pro grade coatings that perform very well in my experience-

1) Kamikaze Zipang Coat
2) Kamikaze Miyabi Coat
3) Carpro CQuartz Professional
4) Carpro CQuartz Finest Reserve
5) Feynlab Heal Plus (light self healing)
6) IGL Kenzo
7) Jade Quartz (green bottle)
8) Gyeon Mohs Evo
9) Duraslic DS1500 extreme
10) CleanBoyz Diamond 9H+

But just like you need a fast car + good driver to win a race, the best products are useless if paint correction, prep and application is not done correctly. Also, none of these are available for retail sale, authorised installers only.

Update on Autotech Delhi, from whom I got the Modesto BC08 coating and also recommended. I reached out to the owner, who hash relocated to Canada and Autotech is now run by his staff. The owner informed me that as my vehicle was out of the 24 month warranty period, they would charge me Rs. 8000 for paint correction. I would not recommend Autotech anymore as the owner was the real driving force behind it, and I think other detailers offer a longer warranty for their coatings at a similar or lower price point.

First and foremost, a ceramic coat can never be paint corrected! Once a ceramic coat cures on paint, it seals the layer beneath. Hence if you put a DA polisher or rotary to the surface you are bound to lose the ceramic coat! Also depending on pad used, speed of rotary and passes made on each panel one is bound to lose clear coat as well depending on the competence of the detailer.

Secondly warranty on ceramic coatings is like the nigerian mr okawango samuels offering you the 1 million euro lottery on email! Any detailer offering a warranty or gurantee is conning you in the first place itself! Its wise to be a informed consumer and do the research before going ahead with the service:thumbs up

Ceramic coatings never offer protection against swirls and scratches due to traffic. It only protects the paint clear coat and offers gloss and shine, and protects the paint depending on the product used and the competence and work of the detailer. Also key factor and the most important thing is how the car is maintained.

I beg to differ. While you are correct about polishing away the coating itself for the sake of remove imperfections (which are on the coating and then the paint), standard detailer's warranties cover reapplication of the coating post the polishing. I have availed of the same a year ago at Autotech. Hence, the warranty which covers these top-ops is a key feature.

These warranty which covers the top-ups, do they polish and apply ceramic coat on the entire car or any a particular panel which is having imperfections?

Also while top-ups, do they use the same ceramic coat? Because most times they use the spray on ceramic coat like Gyeon CanCoat (or even generic ceramic coats) and not the ones that are originally applied.

Hi, what i was trying to convey is that any correction or what detailers conviniently say to lure customers and use the 'topup' terminology, would need complete coating to be re applied again. Which is the same process all over again at the same cost, if its done in all honesty! Its pretty hard to believe that the gentleman would do this all over again for free! Either he skimmed corners in the first place or in the name of topup he just ran a da polisher and applied a spray sealent. Since he is sitting in canada now its safe for me to guess what he did lol:

The whole car. Autotech used an in-between, a Modesta 'top coat' product.

Agreed that it is all on faith. We as customers pay for the cost of the product + preparation and application + warranty & maintenance which covers cleaning, polishing and reapplication. I overlooked the third component when I first paid.

Hey experts,
I'm a relative newbie to the community and has been a car owner only for a few years. Found the conversation in this thread interesting. It also got me thinking about the best practices when it comes to maintaining the exterior of the car as I saw mention of improper washing of car etc. I have these couple of questions in that regard:

1. What's the right method and interval to wash a car without damaging the paint?
2. What are the external treatments/detailing that are not just good to have but a necessity for one who does not intend to upgrade in a few years?
   I for one have never visited a detailing shop, but realized maybe I should have after the doors started rusting just under 2 years of ownership.

Please throw some light or direct to existing threads, if any.

More then faith its the knowledge a consumer carries into the shop beforehand thats the most important criteria. When as a consumer one has a fair understanding of the intricacies of detailing there are seldom any chances of getting duped. Thats why i always try to be blunt and truthfull as many people read this forum and we should enlighten as many as possible. Again i will say spend an hour on the net research detailing on google and one has a basic idea of what he is getting into:thumbs up