Modifying a Honda Jazz

selfdrive · 17th May 2011, 10:41

Driving in my Honda Jazz, I have sometimes felt the need for that little bit extra. Do you think the Jazz can do with some 'Peteing' or comparable fine tuning?
What impact will this have on the engine, if at all?
Does this void warranty?

Mods: Please assign as appropriate; havent been able to find a pete'd Jazz thread

GTO · 17th May 2011, 15:32

Selfdrive, I think you should approach the modifications just as you would for any other petrol car. First, get yourself a nice intake. Then, a performance exhaust. While these will not significantly bump up the power, you can easily achieve a 5 - 7% gain. And believe me, a lot of that is noticeable (as I found out with my Civic). Importantly, a well-designed exhaust can & will improve your Jazz' low-end torque.

Petes doesn't offer tuning boxes for petrols (you need turbo-diesels for those). Get an intake & exhaust first. Then, if you want more, the next step is a good remap or piggyback. More information in this thread.

wildchild4lyfe · 17th May 2011, 15:50

Well to start with a filter then an exhaust( automech or BAR) or bolt ons based on your budget and then if you want more then a remap.for ECMs you have tuned ichips, rd ecm & Kiirus etc.this is before you open up your engine.if designed well these parts would only compliment your engine.
as for warranty a free flow would definitely make it void.

sgiitk · 17th May 2011, 16:02

@GTO; let me correct you a bit. Pete has nothing for normally aspirated cars. I think they have a box for the Laura / Octavia RS!

Quite often with Honda engines people tend to forget that they develop maximum torque pretty high up the band. So drive enthusiastically, and use the excellent gear shift!

selfdrive · 17th May 2011, 16:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by GTO

Petes doesn't offer tuning boxes for petrols (you need turbo-diesels for those). Get an intake & exhaust first. Then, if you want more, the next step is a good remap or piggyback. More information in this thread.

Thanks GTO, looks like I have some reading/ catch up to do!

Quote:

Originally Posted by wildchild4lyfe

Well to start with a filter then an exhaust( automech or BAR) or bolt ons based on your budget and then if you want more then a remap.for ECMs you have tuned ichips, rd ecm & Kiirus etc.this is before you open up your engine.if designed well these parts would only compliment your engine.
as for warranty a free flow would definitely make it void.

I would ideally like things to be done without impacting the warranty for now. Perhaps the free flow will have to be postponed for a year or so till the warranty runs out.

Quote:

Originally Posted by sgiitk

Quite often with Honda engines people tend to forget that they develop maximum torque pretty high up the band. So drive enthusiastically, and use the excellent gear shift!

This is what I am doing as of now. On the plus side, the extra revs do help with the feel good factor too! Somehow this doesnt go down well with backseat drivers especially the kind that appears periodically in my drive. I need some advice on how to deal with them, I think I should start with ear plugs

wildchild4lyfe · 17th May 2011, 16:35

in that case i think you should just go for a simple panel filter.most car companies sell them at showrooms.like maruti sells K&Ns & tata pipercross.
you could also get a remap done without the company knowing.

selfdrive · 17th May 2011, 16:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by wildchild4lyfe

in that case i think you should just go for a simple panel filter.most car companies sell them at showrooms.like maruti sells K&Ns & tata pipercross.
you could also get a remap done without the company knowing.

I agree wildchild4lyfe; will consider getting the panel filter to get things started and then see "ki chaadar dekhkar main aur paaon phailaata hoon kya" (in other words if I increase my requirements once I have got something done

Sorry

but if I get the remap done, wont the company know when I go in for servicing or they dont look in such detail?

Also, are there any mods that are "recommended" here on tbhp for enhancing either performance or comfort/ convenience?

wildchild4lyfe · 17th May 2011, 17:09

there are a few tuners who work on your company ecm , case and point KIIRUS.
the company guys wouldnt know the difference.

Akshay1234 · 17th May 2011, 17:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by sgiitk

@GTO; let me correct you a bit. Pete has nothing for normally aspirated cars. I think they have a box for the Laura / Octavia RS!

Nope no box for petrol cars. Even if they are turbo petrol cars there is only a remap. The box is limited to common rail diesels.

pranavt · 17th May 2011, 23:06

LOL, Kiirus wouldn't know what to do with a Honda Jazz ECU. Stick to a good intake, maybe get a good set of aftermarket headers from outside India. Remapping a Honda Fit/Jazz ECU doesn't make any sense.

wildchild4lyfe · 18th May 2011, 10:44

most remaps are just maps from the international models.
i had actually seen them tune a skyline and it read pretty well.the main reason for me to suggest his name is that he works on the company ecm . otherwise no one to beat Kartik.

pranavt · 18th May 2011, 10:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by wildchild4lyfe

most remaps are just maps from the international models.
i had actually seen them tune a skyline and it read pretty well.the main reason for me to suggest his name is that he works on the company ecm . otherwise no one to beat Kartik.

The ECU sold on the Jazz/Fit cannot be remapped as of yet. I know what the people at Kiirus do, and they are not the first ones to take this route (selling foreign maps by buying an ECU flasher and flashing them). And there are better companies/people for a Honda ECU than Kartik, no offense taken by anyone I hope.

wildchild4lyfe · 18th May 2011, 11:23

so do you mind sharing a few names Pranav?

SRK · 19th May 2011, 15:26

Get an Air Intake Revision (AIR) Kit.
Next can be an ECU remap and may a FFE exhaust.

The AIR can be removed during the service period, so you don't have to care about the warranty issue.

As far as the remap goes, it is possible for the Service Center to know that your car has been tuned provided they do a thorough check-up. Just reading with the examiner won't reveal that you have got a remap. Also, I think most Service people don't even bother doing that, its only done when you complain about something, or they have to offer something under warranty.

One way they can know that you have a remap is by test-driving your car

FFE will void warranty, so may be you can get it after the warranty expires.
But I think the above 2 mods will keep you happy for sometime.

adimicra · 4th July 2011, 19:05

Finally, the thread I was looking for.
It seems the suggestions are unanimous -
Step 1 - air filter and intake
Step 2- Tuned exhaust. I am not sure about free flows, they give lots of sound which does not necessarily translate into more power
Step 3 - ECM remap.

Now, I would like to start with the Step 1 and see
I have the following questions -
can someone tell me where to get it done in Hyderabad?
Which brands to buy?
What will be the cost?
Will there be any effect on warranty??
Will it have any adverse impact on the car?
Will it increase the sound? I dont want more sound.

17th May 2011, 10:41	#1
selfdrive Senior - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Zurich Posts: 2,964 Thanked: 3,571 Times	Modifying a Honda Jazz Driving in my Honda Jazz, I have sometimes felt the need for that little bit extra. Do you think the Jazz can do with some 'Peteing' or comparable fine tuning? What impact will this have on the engine, if at all? Does this void warranty? Mods: Please assign as appropriate; havent been able to find a pete'd Jazz thread
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17th May 2011, 15:32	#2
GTO Team-BHP Support Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Bombay Posts: 72,381 Thanked: 316,195 Times View My Garage	Re: Modifying a Honda Jazz Selfdrive, I think you should approach the modifications just as you would for any other petrol car. First, get yourself a nice intake. Then, a performance exhaust. While these will not significantly bump up the power, you can easily achieve a 5 - 7% gain. And believe me, a lot of that is noticeable (as I found out with my Civic). Importantly, a well-designed exhaust can & will improve your Jazz' low-end torque. Petes doesn't offer tuning boxes for petrols (you need turbo-diesels for those). Get an intake & exhaust first. Then, if you want more, the next step is a good remap or piggyback. More information in this thread.
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17th May 2011, 15:50	#3
wildchild4lyfe BHPian Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: mumbai Posts: 405 Thanked: 7 Times View My Garage	Re: Modifying a Honda Jazz Well to start with a filter then an exhaust( automech or BAR) or bolt ons based on your budget and then if you want more then a remap.for ECMs you have tuned ichips, rd ecm & Kiirus etc.this is before you open up your engine.if designed well these parts would only compliment your engine. as for warranty a free flow would definitely make it void. Last edited by wildchild4lyfe : 17th May 2011 at 15:56.
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17th May 2011, 16:02	#4
sgiitk Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Gurugram Posts: 7,971 Thanked: 4,803 Times	Re: Modifying a Honda Jazz @GTO; let me correct you a bit. Pete has nothing for normally aspirated cars. I think they have a box for the Laura / Octavia RS! Quite often with Honda engines people tend to forget that they develop maximum torque pretty high up the band. So drive enthusiastically, and use the excellent gear shift! Last edited by sgiitk : 17th May 2011 at 16:04.
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17th May 2011, 16:35	#6
wildchild4lyfe BHPian Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: mumbai Posts: 405 Thanked: 7 Times View My Garage	Re: Modifying a Honda Jazz in that case i think you should just go for a simple panel filter.most car companies sell them at showrooms.like maruti sells K&Ns & tata pipercross. you could also get a remap done without the company knowing.
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17th May 2011, 17:09	#8
wildchild4lyfe BHPian Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: mumbai Posts: 405 Thanked: 7 Times View My Garage	Re: Modifying a Honda Jazz there are a few tuners who work on your company ecm , case and point KIIRUS. the company guys wouldnt know the difference.
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17th May 2011, 23:06	#10
pranavt Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2008 Location: Mumbai Posts: 1,694 Thanked: 834 Times View My Garage	Re: Modifying a Honda Jazz LOL, Kiirus wouldn't know what to do with a Honda Jazz ECU. Stick to a good intake, maybe get a good set of aftermarket headers from outside India. Remapping a Honda Fit/Jazz ECU doesn't make any sense.
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18th May 2011, 10:44	#11
wildchild4lyfe BHPian Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: mumbai Posts: 405 Thanked: 7 Times View My Garage	Re: Modifying a Honda Jazz most remaps are just maps from the international models. i had actually seen them tune a skyline and it read pretty well.the main reason for me to suggest his name is that he works on the company ecm . otherwise no one to beat Kartik.
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18th May 2011, 11:23	#13
wildchild4lyfe BHPian Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: mumbai Posts: 405 Thanked: 7 Times View My Garage	Re: Modifying a Honda Jazz so do you mind sharing a few names Pranav? Last edited by wildchild4lyfe : 18th May 2011 at 11:25.
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19th May 2011, 15:26	#14
SRK Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Mumbai Posts: 1,206 Thanked: 536 Times	Re: Modifying a Honda Jazz Get an Air Intake Revision (AIR) Kit. Next can be an ECU remap and may a FFE exhaust. The AIR can be removed during the service period, so you don't have to care about the warranty issue. As far as the remap goes, it is possible for the Service Center to know that your car has been tuned provided they do a thorough check-up. Just reading with the examiner won't reveal that you have got a remap. Also, I think most Service people don't even bother doing that, its only done when you complain about something, or they have to offer something under warranty. One way they can know that you have a remap is by test-driving your car FFE will void warranty, so may be you can get it after the warranty expires. But I think the above 2 mods will keep you happy for sometime.
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4th July 2011, 19:05	#15
adimicra Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Hyderabad Posts: 2,011 Thanked: 2,494 Times	Re: Modifying a Honda Jazz Finally, the thread I was looking for. It seems the suggestions are unanimous - Step 1 - air filter and intake Step 2- Tuned exhaust. I am not sure about free flows, they give lots of sound which does not necessarily translate into more power Step 3 - ECM remap. Now, I would like to start with the Step 1 and see I have the following questions - can someone tell me where to get it done in Hyderabad? Which brands to buy? What will be the cost? Will there be any effect on warranty?? Will it have any adverse impact on the car? Will it increase the sound? I dont want more sound.
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