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Originally Posted by shubhodeepdas@g Regarding Diesels 1.4 and Petrols 1.6 Fords on Highway:
Depending on the power available from the Diesel is great when you are moving mountains, the large amount of torque at low RPM makes life easy, but when you need to overtake that annoying Sumo with disco lights doing 80 kmph, you need to really struggle hard. In a petrol its a piece of cake, dab the pedal in whatever gear and the car just moves. |
Exactly. It is just that thing that i am really missing while i drive this Diesel. My earlier petrol just needed a downshift for me to be in front of a car. With this one its a lot about pre-planning your moves.
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Originally Posted by Brix If the logic is to drive more to get more mileage - its bad logic for me. |
I meant you run more since its diesel and you have a feeling that its cheaper to run. Thereby you actually run much more and spend equal (if not more) amount than you would have if you owned a petrol engined car. Atleast with me that seems to be true.
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Originally Posted by witwiky And I am getting a FE of 16 to 17 kmpl so far after two cycles of tank full to tank full FE calculations after driving in a mix of all driving conditions - city, highway, ghats, rain, hail storms, summer, etc. |
Congrats. Thats real good F.E i would say. Do you travel less in the afternoon sun. I have a feeling my DTE falls pretty fast when i am travelling in the sun. Need to check that out.
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Originally Posted by Captain Slow gemithomas
Very bold and honest report! I like it!
Your FE figures are with the ac? |
Thanks Captain. All figures are with atleast 95% a/c. I turn off the a/c only once in a while during the evenings/rain when it gets extremely cold.
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Originally Posted by RGK It is always better to get the FE figures with AC. As brix says that Figo has let down in FE which Ford cleverly avoided during its promotions & advts. All of us were driven by the fact that same ?!! Fiesta engine will give more than Fiesta (what an assumption).
With A/c on highways at a speed of 100 kmph - modern diesel motor should give 20 (+/- 1 km), which is seen across all vehicles except this great Figo.
In city with A/c 15 is acceptable and anything less is nothing but the inefficiency of the engine & vehicle. |
I really dont understand how this HUGE variance in FE figures was missed out during those numerous tests ford claims to have done on the Figo before launch.
The biggest fault is the dealers promoting the 20km/l funda. It raises hopes and leads to hate and distress towards the car/brand.
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Originally Posted by witwiky Hey gemithomas,
You can check the link below. There is a scan of the accessories price list from Noida, dealer is South City Ford. I remember seeing the same rates and items at my dealer in Pune as well so I guess, it must be the same at your dealer. |
Thanks. I have seen a similar one that was posted on t-bhp / facebook much earlier. The prices quoted by my dealers were no where near to that. For instance they quoted Rs.5300 for the Fog lamps and a whooping Rs.1300 for the front chrome grill....Yes the one with a printed cost of around 500 in that list!!!
I just said "THANKS!!!" and walked away.
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Originally Posted by Gilead All this talk about Figo's FE being lesser than the Fiesta's and Ikon's is BS unless all three cars are driven by the same person under the same conditions. If the Figo gives a substantially lesser FE compared to the other two for the same person, then there is an issue.
Now just because your uncle or neighbor says they get 17 in the city with AC on in the Fiesta/Ikon in the city does not necessarily mean you will get the same or better in the Figo. In fact, I don't think the Ikon/Fiesta can give more than 13-14 in the city. Check the Fiesta diesel ownership summary on TBHP. The city FE is 14.3. Figo FE does appear to be within 10% of that. Some have reported 13, some have reported 15. Highway mileage for Fiesta is 18.3. For the Linea it is 17.1 and identical figures for the Punto. Swift is 19.1. None of them are getting an average of 20+. I am sure it's possible to get 20+ once in a while by pussyfooting the car, but then what's the fun in driving.
I know an Ikon cabbie who gets 18 in the city but he typically runs his car from 10 pm to 7 am. Ford will advertise only ARAI mileage and that's public info. If you believed the dealer's tall tales about 16-18 in the city, then you need a reality check like what you are getting right now.
EDIT: Is there anyone on this forum who owns a Figo and a Fiesta/Ikon? |
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Originally Posted by RGK @ Gilead: Dealer tales are purely sales promotion figures. But inconsistency & relatively lower figures are concerns of Figo.
My own exp driven a 55k done Tata Indica from Trichy to Tamabaram at 90km/h in exactly 4 hours and got a mileage of 20.3 km/l. Is TDCi not a better one than Indica's ? and should I not expect more FE in a latest engine? |
I think the issue has moved further from a low F.E issue. Our own dr.trrk has mentioned in his thread that he got around 9km/l once and around 22km/l another time. The same person driving the same car with almost same load conditions. The only thing that changed was the road and the time of travel.
I have got around 12km/l from city drives and on the same day i refilled i got around 17km/l on highway.
This proves that the TDCI engine is capable. It would surely come out with exemplary figures during those mileage marathons. But in practical day to day driving the variance is so high that the average F.E of a common user is pulled down so hardly.
The car is neither very strong in pulling at higher gears at lower speeds nor does it enjoy very strong top end grunt. With such characteristics the engine ought to give back better average FE figures.
For the good of the brand/car, either Ford should come up with an ECU tweak or they should immediately stop their dealers from promoting the 20km/l funda.
I'm forced to say this again. How did ford not come to know about this kind of variance in FE during those numerous tests they claim to have done on the Figo.