Indica Vista Quadrajet : An Ownership Log

sushantr5 · 19th December 2009, 23:05

The first car comes with lot of dreams and expectations. The first car always makes a space in your heart. I am here to write about the very same my first car.

When we(my family) made a decision to buy a car then I was having a criteria that the car would be diesel car.
As I did know that my car will be always on spinning wheels not stationary. It was December 2008 and I was busy in choosing a car. I was having two options in my mind Swift and Vista. After test drive and with teamBHP help I made my decision. Swift was out because I wanted to buy a car for whole family. Here are the points which made my decision

1) Vista was fresh in the market. Look was appealing to me.
2) Space Space Space
3) Better and smooth Suspension
4) point 2 and 3 adds to more comfort
5) Smart Gear Ratio and Peak torque at 1750 rpm are for better drivability.

Finally after long wait I got my car on 29th January 2009 and till date I mean in 11 months I have completed more than 29,000 KMS. Here is my experience.

1) Drive: As I mentioned Smart Gear Ratio and Peak torque at 1750 rpm is really boon for drivability. Third gear in Vista QJD in really heaven. Till 100-110KMPH the car feels faster in acceleration but then speed increase is bit slow but acceptable. High speeds is never thing to worry. Car feels more planted and stable at high speeds. At turns one can feel little nervousness but this is also acceptable.

2) Comfort: This car is designed to offer best in class comfort. Such a huge space that it gives feeling that you are driving a big car. Suspension is really good and quick so that you will not feel road irregularities. Rear seats are class above. Maximum leg room, accurate incline, thigh support makes long journey enjoying and comfortable. Road noise and Engine Noise are on lower side compared to swift. At high speed you hardly hear engine.
Height adjustment, tilting steering, lumbar support helps you find perfect driving position. Wide opening doors makes your ingress and outgress comfortable. Lot of cubby holes help you store lot of items. Huge glove box, under seat tray, huge map pockets on all doors are the need for perfect family car.

Rear 60:40 folding seats, total flat floding seats turn Vista into a big cargo. This space really helps.

3) Maintainance: As you know it is from Tata then small niggles are part of parcel. Poor plastic quality of buttons make this car look cheaper. But anyway if you accept these problems then this car is the best.
Here is my service records.
1) First Service(1000KMS): only checkups and topups, no bill
2) Second Service(5000KMS): only checkups and topups, no bill
3) Third Service(10000KMS): Oil change and other small things. I dont remember bill details.
Other than this there was accident repair. On the very first day a villager in a jeep scratched my left rear door. Huge scratch almost two feet long extended on rear left wheel arc. As that was first day of my car I kept myself calm. Got this scratch repaired in third service. Got claimed it under insurance. Total cost of repair was Rs.6500. I had to pay only Rs.800 rest all was managed by insurance. Repair job was excellent. I cant recognise where the scratch was.

4) Fourth Service(20000KMS): Oil plus Fuel Filter change and other small things. I dont remember bill details.
At this servicing I gave a AC problem to solve. Front demister vents were always leaking air. TASS called Behr Service Guy and they found that Thornapple(or something like that) was stuck on the flap. I couldnot figure out how this rarest thing got there. Anyway the problem is solved and they charged 1000 bucks for dismateling and assembling dashboard. This experince was the part of Bad Service offered by Tata Motors. After that rattling and other things creeped in. Some shouting and complaining helped me to solve this issue. This episode deserves another thread but I dont want to recall this worst part.

Somewhere around 24000 KMS I faced breakdown of my car on the road due to starter failure. Full story can be found at my post located http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/techni...ml#post1577173 here.

Apart from this the experience has been great. Even after munching these many miles on my Vista, the car is not showing any sign of aging. Still the feel is like new, the car is getting smoother day by day.

I just want to add a sentence which will say the all. When you buy this car then you will realize importance of comfort in your life. Rest other things like brand and the name Indica, why the hell I was worrying about these things? Really these things fall short in front of comfort and convenience. At the end Vista is serving its purpose. Thanks TATA

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ph03n!x · 20th December 2009, 01:22

Congrats.. Indica is the KING in space and comfort, can't beat it in that area! A few pics??!

vista_qjd · 20th December 2009, 10:49

Just to add to above - I just got my 10K service done. Cost me 1240/- for regular oil and filter change. Did not go the synthetic way since it was way too expensive.

trrk · 20th December 2009, 14:23

Hi,

Quote:

Originally Posted by sushantr5

Rest other things like brand and the name Indica, why the hell I was worrying about these things? Really these things fall short in front of comfort and convenience. At the end Vista is serving its purpose. Thanks TATA

.

Well said!

That is exactly why I do not have a substitute for my Marina!

.anshuman · 20th December 2009, 17:17

Vista is great car, Easily the best family hatchback. Niggles are a part of Tata package.

sushantr5 · 20th December 2009, 22:16

Please have a look at some snaps which I have already posted in tribute to Indica thread.
http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/indian...ml#post1589593

sushantr5 · 22nd December 2009, 11:09

Today I have given my car for fifth service. I confirmed over there that there is retrofitting going on for rear suspension of Vista. Apart from this regular oil and oil filter change.

.anshuman · 22nd December 2009, 11:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by sushantr5

Today I have given my car for fifth service. I confirmed over there that there is retrofitting going on for rear suspension of Vista. Apart from this regular oil and oil filter change.

Can we have more details on this? Are they replacing some defective Suspension component?

sushantr5 · 22nd December 2009, 15:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by .anshuman

Can we have more details on this? Are they replacing some defective Suspension component?

I will ask details about this while taking a delivery.

rkg · 22nd December 2009, 20:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by sushantr5

Today I have given my car for fifth service. I confirmed over there that there is retrofitting going on for rear suspension of Vista. Apart from this regular oil and oil filter change.

I have called service advisor at Concorde, hosur road. he denied any such retrofitting. can you clarify with full details

sushantr5 · 23rd December 2009, 11:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by rkg

I have called service advisor at Concorde, hosur road. he denied any such retrofitting. can you clarify with full details

Today I asked this to Service center, they are changing rear suspension bushings with new modified bushings. I think this is not latest retrofitting.

Now my car is at servicing center. All employees in this servicing center are from my native and my childhood friends

so they are doing throughout checking of my car and identifying a problem and rectifying it. In this search they have found that my car's inter-cooler has a leakage that's why turbo is not performing to its capacity. They explained me every details, Vista has a one design fault. Intercooler is located inside front bumper and it has very less ground clearance at this section. There is possibility that bumper scraps at speed breakers and which increases possibility of intercooler damage. Now I think I will have big hole in my pocket if intercooler needs to be changed. They are checking possible damage to turbo too due to intercooler failure. If by chance turbo is also damaged then I am in a soup

. But service adviser said that he will try find out real cause of damage, whether it is manufacturing defect or due to damage. He assured me that he will try to save my money.

As Works Manager and workers over there are my friends, I am getting royal treatment for my car, some of these include
1) I lost one wheel cap which I am getting free
2) Tail lamps cluster has water leakage I am getting it replaced under warranty.
3) One front fog lamp has water leakage it is too being replaced under warranty.
4) Headlights have small burns, it is not replaced yet but they will try to fit new ones.
5) Checking every bit and corner to find out any problem.

And these all things I have not mentioned in my job card.

ravikn · 23rd December 2009, 12:08

Sushant,

Nice Review there. Gives confidence to new buyers to consider Vista in their final shortlist before making the decision. Pls do post some pics of the car

Rahulk76 · 31st December 2009, 10:34

Nice review of Quadrajet Vista there sushant.

n.devdath · 31st December 2009, 10:43

Its hard to beat the Vista or any TATA for that matter when it comes to space. Heck, even the Nano is 30% more spacious than the 800. Quality, the less said about it the better but the fantastic Quadrajet masks all that up by a fair deal.
Enjoy your car and keep updating us.

sushantr5 · 31st December 2009, 12:14

Update on intercooler damage:

Intercooler changed for minimal cost. There is long story(secret mission) behind the scene for getting intercooler which I can not disclose. I am sorry for this. There is lot to say but I am afraid to disclose this. Who knows we might have Tata snipers watching this forum.

19th December 2009, 23:05	#1
sushantr5 BHPian Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Nuremberg Posts: 675 Thanked: 597 Times View My Garage	Indica Vista Quadrajet : An Ownership Log The first car comes with lot of dreams and expectations. The first car always makes a space in your heart. I am here to write about the very same my first car. When we(my family) made a decision to buy a car then I was having a criteria that the car would be diesel car. As I did know that my car will be always on spinning wheels not stationary. It was December 2008 and I was busy in choosing a car. I was having two options in my mind Swift and Vista. After test drive and with teamBHP help I made my decision. Swift was out because I wanted to buy a car for whole family. Here are the points which made my decision 1) Vista was fresh in the market. Look was appealing to me. 2) Space Space Space 3) Better and smooth Suspension 4) point 2 and 3 adds to more comfort 5) Smart Gear Ratio and Peak torque at 1750 rpm are for better drivability. Finally after long wait I got my car on 29th January 2009 and till date I mean in 11 months I have completed more than 29,000 KMS. Here is my experience. 1) Drive: As I mentioned Smart Gear Ratio and Peak torque at 1750 rpm is really boon for drivability. Third gear in Vista QJD in really heaven. Till 100-110KMPH the car feels faster in acceleration but then speed increase is bit slow but acceptable. High speeds is never thing to worry. Car feels more planted and stable at high speeds. At turns one can feel little nervousness but this is also acceptable. 2) Comfort: This car is designed to offer best in class comfort. Such a huge space that it gives feeling that you are driving a big car. Suspension is really good and quick so that you will not feel road irregularities. Rear seats are class above. Maximum leg room, accurate incline, thigh support makes long journey enjoying and comfortable. Road noise and Engine Noise are on lower side compared to swift. At high speed you hardly hear engine. Height adjustment, tilting steering, lumbar support helps you find perfect driving position. Wide opening doors makes your ingress and outgress comfortable. Lot of cubby holes help you store lot of items. Huge glove box, under seat tray, huge map pockets on all doors are the need for perfect family car. Rear 60:40 folding seats, total flat floding seats turn Vista into a big cargo. This space really helps. 3) Maintainance: As you know it is from Tata then small niggles are part of parcel. Poor plastic quality of buttons make this car look cheaper. But anyway if you accept these problems then this car is the best. Here is my service records. 1) First Service(1000KMS): only checkups and topups, no bill 2) Second Service(5000KMS): only checkups and topups, no bill 3) Third Service(10000KMS): Oil change and other small things. I dont remember bill details. Other than this there was accident repair. On the very first day a villager in a jeep scratched my left rear door. Huge scratch almost two feet long extended on rear left wheel arc. As that was first day of my car I kept myself calm. Got this scratch repaired in third service. Got claimed it under insurance. Total cost of repair was Rs.6500. I had to pay only Rs.800 rest all was managed by insurance. Repair job was excellent. I cant recognise where the scratch was. 4) Fourth Service(20000KMS): Oil plus Fuel Filter change and other small things. I dont remember bill details. At this servicing I gave a AC problem to solve. Front demister vents were always leaking air. TASS called Behr Service Guy and they found that Thornapple(or something like that) was stuck on the flap. I couldnot figure out how this rarest thing got there. Anyway the problem is solved and they charged 1000 bucks for dismateling and assembling dashboard. This experince was the part of Bad Service offered by Tata Motors. After that rattling and other things creeped in. Some shouting and complaining helped me to solve this issue. This episode deserves another thread but I dont want to recall this worst part. Somewhere around 24000 KMS I faced breakdown of my car on the road due to starter failure. Full story can be found at my post located http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/techni...ml#post1577173 here. Apart from this the experience has been great. Even after munching these many miles on my Vista, the car is not showing any sign of aging. Still the feel is like new, the car is getting smoother day by day. I just want to add a sentence which will say the all. When you buy this car then you will realize importance of comfort in your life. Rest other things like brand and the name Indica, why the hell I was worrying about these things? Really these things fall short in front of comfort and convenience. At the end Vista is serving its purpose. Thanks TATA .
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20th December 2009, 01:22	#2
ph03n!x Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Coimbatore Posts: 2,602 Thanked: 6,158 Times	Congrats.. Indica is the KING in space and comfort, can't beat it in that area! A few pics??!
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20th December 2009, 10:49	#3
vista_qjd BHPian Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Bangalore Posts: 200 Thanked: 50 Times	Just to add to above - I just got my 10K service done. Cost me 1240/- for regular oil and filter change. Did not go the synthetic way since it was way too expensive.
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20th December 2009, 17:17	#5
.anshuman Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Good-Gaon Posts: 7,763 Thanked: 11,124 Times View My Garage	Vista is great car, Easily the best family hatchback. Niggles are a part of Tata package.
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20th December 2009, 22:16	#6
sushantr5 BHPian Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Nuremberg Posts: 675 Thanked: 597 Times View My Garage	Please have a look at some snaps which I have already posted in tribute to Indica thread. http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/indian...ml#post1589593
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22nd December 2009, 11:09	#7
sushantr5 BHPian Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Nuremberg Posts: 675 Thanked: 597 Times View My Garage	Today I have given my car for fifth service. I confirmed over there that there is retrofitting going on for rear suspension of Vista. Apart from this regular oil and oil filter change.
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23rd December 2009, 12:08	#12
ravikn BHPian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 345 Thanked: 25 Times	Sushant, Nice Review there. Gives confidence to new buyers to consider Vista in their final shortlist before making the decision. Pls do post some pics of the car
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31st December 2009, 10:34	#13
Rahulk76 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: India Posts: 1,148 Thanked: 235 Times	Nice review of Quadrajet Vista there sushant.
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31st December 2009, 10:43	#14
n.devdath BANNED Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Bangalore Posts: 4,287 Thanked: 2,816 Times	Its hard to beat the Vista or any TATA for that matter when it comes to space. Heck, even the Nano is 30% more spacious than the 800. Quality, the less said about it the better but the fantastic Quadrajet masks all that up by a fair deal. Enjoy your car and keep updating us.
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31st December 2009, 12:14	#15
sushantr5 BHPian Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Nuremberg Posts: 675 Thanked: 597 Times View My Garage	Update on intercooler damage: Intercooler changed for minimal cost. There is long story(secret mission) behind the scene for getting intercooler which I can not disclose. I am sorry for this. There is lot to say but I am afraid to disclose this. Who knows we might have Tata snipers watching this forum.
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