Tata Safari 2.2 - Life beyond 65k kms

Rahulk76 · 18th July 2009, 21:39

2000+ done.. Things are getting better

Surprise... Surprise... my vehicle will need to pay a visit for 3-4 days at it's mothers place.. Once it comes back to the master, will update the thread with details.

Until then, drive safe

Cya

srikant · 19th July 2009, 16:38

3-4 days? they still not able to find and sort those problems? I salute your patience man.

Rahulk76 · 19th July 2009, 20:23

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Originally Posted by srikant

3-4 days? they still not able to find and sort those problems? I salute your patience man.

I dont have a choice here Do I ?

Bonus is that its not in the hands of some incompetent TASS/TASC

As long as its getting acknowledged (atleast in my case) i am fine. Likewise I was prepared for the same anyways.

Patience is a virtue my friend.

n.devdath · 20th July 2009, 09:22

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Originally Posted by Rahulk76

I dont have a choice here Do I ?

Bonus is that its not in the hands of some incompetent TASS/TASC

As long as its getting acknowledged (atleast in my case) i am fine. Likewise I was prepared for the same anyways.

Patience is a virtue my friend.

Good, I m sure your issues will be soon sorted out dude. Keep up your 'virtues'.

srikant · 20th July 2009, 21:24

I respect your virtue pal. However its ok as long as it gets solved and you can have a trouble free drive henceforth.

Rahulk76 · 30th July 2009, 21:26

Update:

ECU reflashed @ 2700KM to the latest version released last week. Boy what a difference in drivelibilty.

The issues still stand, with further investigations underway at TML. Hoping to see some positive outcomes in a few days or so.

I appreciate all the help extended by fellow bhpians. Thanks Guys..

So I am waiting in anticipation at outcome still..

vijaythacker · 31st July 2009, 15:45

Rahul, bit late but congratulations on your black beast or you say Safari.Hope your patience isnot checked too long and beast gets on work properly and perfectly,keep updating with more pictures.

Rahulk76 · 1st August 2009, 21:33

~Somewhere inside the place of origin..

"The vehicle races to 70-80kmph and brakes hard..squeels and screeches and then does what it aint supposed to do, pulls towards left."

This is repeated 4-5 times. Some of the best techs, acknowledge the issue and it takes 2 days for them to understand that its a LHS Front Brake Caliper issue.

"Driving the 2.2 in third gear @40kmph and 60-70 @ fourth gear(cruising) gives bucks and jerks" This is even evident when its decelerating. It will buck and jerk forward, as if I were pushing in the clutch and then dumping it.

Would appreciate expert comments on this.

dadu · 1st August 2009, 21:49

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Originally Posted by Rahulk76

"Driving the 2.2 in third gear @40kmph and 60-70 @ fourth gear(cruising) gives bucks and jerks" This is even evident when its decelerating. It will buck and jerk forward, as if I were pushing in the clutch and then dumping it.

Would appreciate expert comments on this.

Just a thought, once your tank dries up, try filling from Shell or a different trustable bunk than the usual.

Wouldnt also mind trying "Hi-speed" premium diesel for once to check if this behaviour is still present.

Do a full tank up in either case, if possible.

Rahulk76 · 1st August 2009, 22:09

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Originally Posted by dadu

Just a thought, once your tank dries up, try filling from Shell or a different trustable bunk than the usual.

Wouldnt also mind trying "Hi-speed" premium diesel for once to check if this behaviour is still present.

Do a full tank up in either case, if possible.

Dadu,

Its SHELL always from day 0. I ll try HP/BP HSD this time once I get it back on Tuesday.

Not sure, but was thinking in lines of something to do with differentials, pinion being loose..

n.devdath · 4th August 2009, 09:23

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Originally Posted by Rahulk76

Oh, BTW it keeps me fresh everyday 100km commute through maddening traffic of Pune, From Wagholi Side to all the way near start of Bombay Pune expressway. The ride is comfortable

Rightly summed up dude. The space and the ride comfort of the Safari is something which is unique and I guess makes up for its inherent shortcomings

Rahulk76 · 4th August 2009, 21:55

Appreciative Actions taken by ERC, TML.. Thank you guys for understanding my issues and taking it positively.

I dont have the complete list of work carried out by TML.So penning down what was verbally told to me. Will upload all the details in few days.
They TD'ed 400KMS

1. Brakes Issues are resolved.

FYI, on a test track, when braking from 80 -0 if the vehicle pulls left or right within 2 meters or something, its normal.

2. Steering linakge rods.. or something worked upon. Response much better.

3. Idler arm worked upon some setting

4. Front RHS Window motor replaced, Window roll up and down much much better.

5. As said, latest firmware from delphi. With wiring hareness of ECU changed or rerouted. the negative wirer goes over the ECU cover, which I didnt like at all and would ask dealer to do a better thing when it checks-in back a few days later.

Tonite, it seemed that I was driving Swift VDI. It was chuckable in few instances. Red light starts were also equally entertaining.

Not sure what to say amused or bemused.

PS: I have been told to drive few hundred KMS to give feedback.

amit_mechengg · 4th August 2009, 22:35

great you got your vehicle back. drive extensively for 2-3 days and do tell me the output.
i have to pat the backs of QA and Assembly line people.

Rahulk76 · 4th August 2009, 23:37

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Originally Posted by amit_mechengg

great you got your vehicle back. drive extensively for 2-3 days and do tell me the output.
i have to pat the backs of QA and Assembly line people.

Absolutely Amit

QA and Assembly line people do deserve KUDO's and written appreciation of the work, if everything goes well.

I am thinking of ripping across Pune Traffic for next few days,what say

n.devdath · 5th August 2009, 10:25

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Originally Posted by Rahulk76

FYI, on a test track, when braking from 80 -0 if the vehicle pulls left or right within 2 meters or something, its normal.

Tonite, it seemed that I was driving Swift VDI. It was chuckable in few instances. Red light starts were also equally entertaining.

Good News, finally. Great to know that you have gotten your truck much better. Yes, the new ECU Mapping/flashing seems to improve its drivability and performance to a considerable extent.

I however, do not agree with the first point, but nevertheless, lets give it some time and check.

Time for some pics I guess

18th July 2009, 21:39	#46
Rahulk76 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: India Posts: 1,149 Thanked: 235 Times	2000+ done.. Things are getting better Surprise... Surprise... my vehicle will need to pay a visit for 3-4 days at it's mothers place.. Once it comes back to the master, will update the thread with details. Until then, drive safe Cya Last edited by Rahulk76 : 18th July 2009 at 21:40.
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19th July 2009, 16:38	#47
srikant BHPian Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Bengaluru Posts: 488 Thanked: 12 Times	3-4 days? they still not able to find and sort those problems? I salute your patience man.
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20th July 2009, 21:24	#50
srikant BHPian Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Bengaluru Posts: 488 Thanked: 12 Times	I respect your virtue pal. However its ok as long as it gets solved and you can have a trouble free drive henceforth.
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30th July 2009, 21:26	#51
Rahulk76 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: India Posts: 1,149 Thanked: 235 Times	Update: ECU reflashed @ 2700KM to the latest version released last week. Boy what a difference in drivelibilty. The issues still stand, with further investigations underway at TML. Hoping to see some positive outcomes in a few days or so. I appreciate all the help extended by fellow bhpians. Thanks Guys.. So I am waiting in anticipation at outcome still..
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31st July 2009, 15:45	#52
vijaythacker Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Ahmedabad Posts: 1,498 Thanked: 74 Times View My Garage	Rahul, bit late but congratulations on your black beast or you say Safari.Hope your patience isnot checked too long and beast gets on work properly and perfectly,keep updating with more pictures.
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1st August 2009, 21:33	#53
Rahulk76 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: India Posts: 1,149 Thanked: 235 Times	~Somewhere inside the place of origin.. "The vehicle races to 70-80kmph and brakes hard..squeels and screeches and then does what it aint supposed to do, pulls towards left." This is repeated 4-5 times. Some of the best techs, acknowledge the issue and it takes 2 days for them to understand that its a LHS Front Brake Caliper issue. "Driving the 2.2 in third gear @40kmph and 60-70 @ fourth gear(cruising) gives bucks and jerks" This is even evident when its decelerating. It will buck and jerk forward, as if I were pushing in the clutch and then dumping it. Would appreciate expert comments on this.
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4th August 2009, 21:55	#57
Rahulk76 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: India Posts: 1,149 Thanked: 235 Times	Appreciative Actions Appreciative Actions taken by ERC, TML.. Thank you guys for understanding my issues and taking it positively. I dont have the complete list of work carried out by TML.So penning down what was verbally told to me. Will upload all the details in few days. They TD'ed 400KMS 1. Brakes Issues are resolved. FYI, on a test track, when braking from 80 -0 if the vehicle pulls left or right within 2 meters or something, its normal. 2. Steering linakge rods.. or something worked upon. Response much better. 3. Idler arm worked upon some setting 4. Front RHS Window motor replaced, Window roll up and down much much better. 5. As said, latest firmware from delphi. With wiring hareness of ECU changed or rerouted. the negative wirer goes over the ECU cover, which I didnt like at all and would ask dealer to do a better thing when it checks-in back a few days later. Tonite, it seemed that I was driving Swift VDI. It was chuckable in few instances. Red light starts were also equally entertaining. Not sure what to say amused or bemused. PS: I have been told to drive few hundred KMS to give feedback.
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4th August 2009, 22:35	#58
amit_mechengg Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Pune Posts: 2,488 Thanked: 2,252 Times View My Garage	great you got your vehicle back. drive extensively for 2-3 days and do tell me the output. i have to pat the backs of QA and Assembly line people.
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