Tata Safari 2.2 - Life beyond 65k kms

bj96 · 25th January 2010, 22:59

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Originally Posted by Rahulk76

I owe this to the manual and adhere to the speed limits mentioned therein...

I look at roadsigns instead

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Originally Posted by Rahulk76

clean catcon as per manual again, every 3 days, by revving to 3-3.5k rpm and then letting it cool down for another 3-4 mins before final shutoff

I just do ~30s idle before shutdown. Are you sure it is ~3 minutes?

-BJ

Rahulk76 · 16th February 2010, 16:01

Safari completes 20100 KMS today in approx 8 months

Today happened to meet fellow bhpian Kingshukt at BUB Wakad. It was a pleasure meeting you.

May I request Mods to update the thread title to

Tata Safari Dicor 2.2 : Born Free (Edit: 20000KMS & Counting)

suman · 16th February 2010, 16:05

Congratulations on crossing the 20k mark.....happy driving

About the title edit - report your own post & put in the request there.

Rahulk76 · 17th February 2010, 07:10

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Originally Posted by suman

Congratulations on crossing the 20k mark.....happy driving

About the title edit - report your own post & put in the request there.

Thanks Suman..
About Title change.. I completely forgot..

Rahulk76 · 17th February 2010, 14:15

Today rode top of the line Linea diesel for the first time

Now I realize what wonders the VTT do. Linea wont budge on a climb from Infy circle towards phase II in Hinjewadi, Pune in 3rd gear @ 30-35 kmph. Full A/C. 3 Passengers onboard.

Whereas in VTT its so very electric train like pulling away all the way.. Zilch turbo lag

Reminded me of old indica days.. pedal to metal and then wait for magic to happen & in that mean time, richshaw would take you over.

Damn.. 2.2 VTT has spoilt me

EDIT: These are my own views.. No offence to any Linea Diesel Owner and wont like to start a debate on this plzz.

bj96 · 17th February 2010, 15:19

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Originally Posted by Rahulk76

Linea wont budge on a climb ...

+1, even I felt too and Manza appeared lazier to me. However, Fiesta D was much faster off the block. Not sure it was real or just an illusion- I am only 8000 kms old in Diesels

-BJ

HappyWheels · 17th February 2010, 19:27

Rahul,

Congrats on the milestone!

How are the tires and brakes holding out?

Rahulk76 · 18th February 2010, 10:02

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Originally Posted by HappyWheels

Rahul,

Congrats on the milestone!

How are the tires and brakes holding out?

Tyres seem good for another 20-30 k depending on the way I drive em.

Brake pads are wearing out and I assume, they would need replacement in another 5-10k clicks. Off late I feel a light judder when braking, so.

How about your's ?

Have sent a email to TML to address the issues of jerks

Ooooh God....Ek baar dila de...! peace of mind

sunil_k_u · 19th February 2010, 18:13

Rahul,

Congrats on the milestone. You are driving just too much in very short time..

The judder during breaking for a vehicle that covered 20k seems obvious. I had covered 23k in my 2.2VTT and faced the same behavior. Got the brake liner/pads cleaned at TASS yesterday, as I plan to start a 1500-2000 km journey this week-end.

Your view on the break pad life (good for another 10k KM) matches with what the SA told me as well.

Safe driving and wishing you more miles ahead..

-Sunil.

dadu · 24th February 2010, 21:09

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Originally Posted by Rahulk76

Now a FE of 12.5 -13 KMPL with a/c usage of 50%, that too in Pune's stop / go is amazing.

I owe this to the manual and adhere to the speed limits mentioned therein. I make clean catcon as per manual again, every 3 days, by revving to 3-3.5k rpm and then letting it cool down for another 3-4 mins before final shutoff. (Now dont flame me for that.. flame the manual

)

Oh.. btw I just noticed that 19000kms mark just completed.
Life becomes a little boring when you have to just fill diesel and drive away...Am I dreaming too much

?

The magic potion works!!! with time it improved the FE.

Rahulk76 · 1st March 2010, 22:46

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Originally Posted by dadu

The magic potion works!!! with time it improved the FE.

One more trick learned to clean up cat con once a week

Hold time 10 secs at

1. 2000 rpm

2. 2500 rpm

3. 3000 rpm

4. 3500 rpm

3 secs hold time

1. 4000 rpm

2. max rpm (my rpm actual read out from diag comp was 4700 rpm) also known as max flyup speed.

Allow 3 mins to cool down

jkdas · 1st March 2010, 22:52

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Originally Posted by Rahulk76

Whereas in VTT its so very electric train like pulling away all the way.. Zilch turbo lag

Reminded me of old indica days.. pedal to metal and then wait for magic to happen & in that mean time, richshaw would take you over.

Damn.. 2.2 VTT has spoilt me

EDIT: These are my own views.. No offence to any Linea Diesel Owner and wont like to start a debate on this plzz.

Was wondering how Happy_Wheels was doign just 80-90 kmph in 5th gear and cruising. I understood this is possible after the retro! 4th gear is like an auto gear, putters on and on from this end to the other.

Rahulk76 · 1st March 2010, 23:01

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Originally Posted by jkdas

Was wondering how Happy_Wheels was doign just 80-90 kmph in 5th gear and cruising. I understood this is possible after the retro! 4th gear is like an auto gear, putters on and on from this end to the other.

Yup.. try accelerating in third gear and hear the turbo, hears like it also does kinda downshift, its very addictive..

Last week Sushant_r5 witnessed it. 40 to 90 kmph was extremely linear, feels always like a mumbai localtrain pulling from station

Rahulk76 · 13th March 2010, 21:25

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Originally Posted by Rahulk76

Have sent a email to TML to address the issues of jerks

Last week, experts took control of the vehicle for detailed analysis on my complaint (repeated) and the issue was finally narrowed down to the weakest link in a car.. clutch (it wasn't working right) so there goes the JERK(s)..

for now.

Kudos to experts to identify root cause.

Read details here ..
http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/techni...ml#post1781243

After a couple of days, the vehicle is in my hand with the following new things

..

1. New LX grill reasons unknown & that's mysterious.
2. New radiator fan (courtesy NVH team) reason being resonance freq mismatch with engine therefore louder engine NVH. and wow is the word. Its changed its character completely..
3. New clutch..santro feeling already gone :(

For reasons unknown all the things done at experts are classified.

The drivability and the NVH has changed the beast completely and hope it purrs all along AMEN.

Next 5000 - 10000km will reveal whether work was done actually beneficial or not.

Rahulk76 · 19th March 2010, 20:34

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Originally Posted by Rahulk76

2. New radiator fan (courtesy NVH team) reason being resonance freq mismatch with engine therefore louder engine NVH. and wow is the word. Its changed its character completely..

So much for the so called character change

.. someone goofed up while handling the radiator fan(s) change and radiator started to leak drops since last few days..multiple tries in to solve it didnt help so Safari gets a new TATA TOYO radiator tommorow.

So much for so called expert handling what a waste of time for me and money for TATA

but then atleast a heartening thing is that its getting addressed. Having said that they pay themselves for what they have done

When will they start learning...

16th February 2010, 16:01	#272
Rahulk76 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: India Posts: 1,149 Thanked: 235 Times	Safari completes 20000 KMS Safari completes 20100 KMS today in approx 8 months Today happened to meet fellow bhpian Kingshukt at BUB Wakad. It was a pleasure meeting you. May I request Mods to update the thread title to Tata Safari Dicor 2.2 : Born Free (Edit: 20000KMS & Counting)
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16th February 2010, 16:05	#273
suman Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Kolkata Posts: 4,589 Thanked: 281 Times View My Garage	Congratulations on crossing the 20k mark.....happy driving About the title edit - report your own post & put in the request there.
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17th February 2010, 14:15	#275
Rahulk76 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: India Posts: 1,149 Thanked: 235 Times	Today rode top of the line Linea diesel for the first time Now I realize what wonders the VTT do. Linea wont budge on a climb from Infy circle towards phase II in Hinjewadi, Pune in 3rd gear @ 30-35 kmph. Full A/C. 3 Passengers onboard. Whereas in VTT its so very electric train like pulling away all the way.. Zilch turbo lag Reminded me of old indica days.. pedal to metal and then wait for magic to happen & in that mean time, richshaw would take you over. Damn.. 2.2 VTT has spoilt me EDIT: These are my own views.. No offence to any Linea Diesel Owner and wont like to start a debate on this plzz. Last edited by Rahulk76 : 17th February 2010 at 14:23.
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17th February 2010, 19:27	#277
HappyWheels Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 4,140 Thanked: 564 Times	Rahul, Congrats on the milestone! How are the tires and brakes holding out?
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19th February 2010, 18:13	#279
sunil_k_u BHPian Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Bangalore Posts: 134 Thanked: 104 Times	Rahul, Congrats on the milestone. You are driving just too much in very short time.. The judder during breaking for a vehicle that covered 20k seems obvious. I had covered 23k in my 2.2VTT and faced the same behavior. Got the brake liner/pads cleaned at TASS yesterday, as I plan to start a 1500-2000 km journey this week-end. Your view on the break pad life (good for another 10k KM) matches with what the SA told me as well. Safe driving and wishing you more miles ahead.. -Sunil.
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