The DIESEL experience! Swift VDi

kuttapan · 30th August 2007, 01:14

@Benny - Gold was not my personal choice, it was Maruti's choice rather. I took whatever I got, else I would still be in queue.

skandyhere · 30th August 2007, 01:36

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Originally Posted by Jaggu

i somehow felt scared driving the zen after the swift ..

scared? why - was it what you thought to be blunt handling or was it the engine raring to go from the very beginning?

ceebeezee · 30th August 2007, 16:39

Hi,

Just to announce that I am getting my Swift VDI with ABS in a weeks time. Got a call from the dealer today. This is perfectly routine but how I got it makes for an interesting tale -

I was told a 2month waiting period when I booked in June. And all through the 2 months, no information was given and the dealer always said - it has not been alloted yet.

After the due date passed, I called up and was disgusted at the response which was the same as usual - "Sir, Car has not been allotted - Cannot say when it will come"

I then wrote a stinging email to Jagdish Khattar (Maruti) with a copy to the dealer - Spectra Motors, Mumbai. I immediately (within 10 minutes of sending the email) got a call from the dealer apologising for the delay and also a reply via email that a Swift was being arranged for despatch.

The dealer called today to inform that Black color was available. Although I had booked for a Sunlight copper color, I was more interested in having the car - I reasoned that the color is immaterial as I will be sitting inside the car and not outside!

So now I am a little bit worried if the dealer will get back at me by giving a refurbished/damaged/demo car to me which has been obviously painted in black to hide the imperfections or damage!

Guys, need your advice on how to ensure that what I am getting is a brand new car? Should I inspect the car at stockyard, how do i find out manufacturing date of car, any obvious sign that shows the car is brand new etc etc

Would appreciate any/all help on this one

mobike008 · 30th August 2007, 16:49

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Originally Posted by ceebeezee

I was more interested in having the car - I reasoned that the color is immaterial as I will be sitting inside the car and not outside!

That was one funny statement

but, IMO, when you pay so much you should only settle for what you want and not what you get.

I havent seen a single black swift diesel till date here in Hyderabad. So there is a huge possibility that he may be passing of a refurbished car onto you.

Do be careful before making a comittment. since you waited so long why dont you wait some more till you get what you want.

ceebeezee · 30th August 2007, 16:57

The Black was my original choice of color till the dealer told me that there was a new color, namely the sunlight copper.

I would like to make a factual assessment of the newness of the car - and thats why i asked questions like mfg date identification, and visible signs of identifying the freshness of a car.

kuttapan · 30th August 2007, 23:20

@cebeezee - Unless you dealer is a magician, I beleive he would be unable to produce a Vdi Abs in double quick time like he did.

Just go ahead and take the car, if you like the color. Throw the conspiracy theories out of the window.

@mobike - So you have not seen a black DDis means Maruti is not producing one? And dealer passing a refurbished car? Heights of imagination, I should say.

FYI, I have seen black Vdi ABS in Bangalore.

sudarshansarma · 30th August 2007, 23:30

Dude,
heres the reply you want!. Black is very popular in Mumbai.
Check edges etc for paint imperfections. The best way to find out when the car was billed is to ask the dealer for the MARUTI INVOICE. This is an invoice that is made out to "Spectra" motors stating the "Ex dealer price" prior to dealer margin being added(I am From the industry, trust me). This will have the date of invoicing(from maruti to the dealer) and the E no and ch no. Match this with the car and you should be ok. I doubt they will give you a refurbished car. There are strict penalties for multiple failures of a car and paint defects to the dealer. So they will surely take care of that. Booked one myself but then said i'll take the plunge and get a magnum!

sudarshansarma · 30th August 2007, 23:31

Obviously the dealer was favouring other customers, probably personal friends and corporate clients. Good you kicked his butt

Jaggu · 30th August 2007, 23:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by skandyhere

scared? why - was it what you thought to be blunt handling or was it the engine raring to go from the very beginning?

lol i lived with a zen for 6 years of my driving life. but the emotion has more to do with unsafe feeling wrt handling, braking and sitting on the ground floor than the petrol engine pep, which is better by 1 or 2 sec of initials revs in a zen comapred to the Swift D

mobike008 · 31st August 2007, 12:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by kuttapan

@mobike - So you have not seen a black DDis means Maruti is not producing one? And dealer passing a refurbished car? Heights of imagination, I should say

Let us see how many folks have seen SwiftD in black??? I am sure none of the tbhp members own one and i didnt say maruti hasnt produced, just that i havent seen meaning it is bloody rare-so stick to your gun, place for which is between your legs. It is highly possible for dealers passing of refurbished cars ( in sense, a new second hand car) do you think they are in the business for charity?

Vid6639 · 31st August 2007, 12:18

Seen many Black DDiS swifts.

Eddy · 31st August 2007, 12:34

Pretty common in Delhi

benbsb29 · 31st August 2007, 12:42

Same from my end too, I have seen DDIS in black. Cant say many, but i have seen them. In particular, there is one Swift LDi, which runs as a taxi in Bangalore.

Jaggu · 31st August 2007, 14:44

one passes my office almost every day, black vdi

Thad E Ginathom · 31st August 2007, 14:48

I think a lot of people loose patience and drop out of the queue, then the orders get shuffled around.

When I was still at the complaining stage, I discussed this with the sales people. They told me they would be deeply upset if I cancelled an order for a petrol Swift, but I was right in saying that cancelling a diesel was no real hardship to them, the waiting list being so long.

I got "someone else's" car by shouting about the delay, and ended up with the ABS model in the right colour too. Turns out the idiot original salesman had put me down for non-ABS anyway, so all was well in the end.

30th August 2007, 01:14	#826
kuttapan Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2007 Location: Melbourne Posts: 1,155 Thanked: 24 Times View My Garage	@Benny - Gold was not my personal choice, it was Maruti's choice rather. I took whatever I got, else I would still be in queue.
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30th August 2007, 16:39	#828
ceebeezee BHPian Join Date: May 2007 Location: Mumbai Posts: 61 Thanked: 38 Times	Hi, Just to announce that I am getting my Swift VDI with ABS in a weeks time. Got a call from the dealer today. This is perfectly routine but how I got it makes for an interesting tale - I was told a 2month waiting period when I booked in June. And all through the 2 months, no information was given and the dealer always said - it has not been alloted yet. After the due date passed, I called up and was disgusted at the response which was the same as usual - "Sir, Car has not been allotted - Cannot say when it will come" I then wrote a stinging email to Jagdish Khattar (Maruti) with a copy to the dealer - Spectra Motors, Mumbai. I immediately (within 10 minutes of sending the email) got a call from the dealer apologising for the delay and also a reply via email that a Swift was being arranged for despatch. The dealer called today to inform that Black color was available. Although I had booked for a Sunlight copper color, I was more interested in having the car - I reasoned that the color is immaterial as I will be sitting inside the car and not outside! So now I am a little bit worried if the dealer will get back at me by giving a refurbished/damaged/demo car to me which has been obviously painted in black to hide the imperfections or damage! Guys, need your advice on how to ensure that what I am getting is a brand new car? Should I inspect the car at stockyard, how do i find out manufacturing date of car, any obvious sign that shows the car is brand new etc etc Would appreciate any/all help on this one
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30th August 2007, 16:57	#830
ceebeezee BHPian Join Date: May 2007 Location: Mumbai Posts: 61 Thanked: 38 Times	The Black was my original choice of color till the dealer told me that there was a new color, namely the sunlight copper. I would like to make a factual assessment of the newness of the car - and thats why i asked questions like mfg date identification, and visible signs of identifying the freshness of a car.
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30th August 2007, 23:20	#831
kuttapan Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2007 Location: Melbourne Posts: 1,155 Thanked: 24 Times View My Garage	@cebeezee - Unless you dealer is a magician, I beleive he would be unable to produce a Vdi Abs in double quick time like he did. Just go ahead and take the car, if you like the color. Throw the conspiracy theories out of the window. @mobike - So you have not seen a black DDis means Maruti is not producing one? And dealer passing a refurbished car? Heights of imagination, I should say. FYI, I have seen black Vdi ABS in Bangalore.
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30th August 2007, 23:30	#832
sudarshansarma BHPian Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 101 Thanked: Once	Dude, heres the reply you want!. Black is very popular in Mumbai. Check edges etc for paint imperfections. The best way to find out when the car was billed is to ask the dealer for the MARUTI INVOICE. This is an invoice that is made out to "Spectra" motors stating the "Ex dealer price" prior to dealer margin being added(I am From the industry, trust me). This will have the date of invoicing(from maruti to the dealer) and the E no and ch no. Match this with the car and you should be ok. I doubt they will give you a refurbished car. There are strict penalties for multiple failures of a car and paint defects to the dealer. So they will surely take care of that. Booked one myself but then said i'll take the plunge and get a magnum!
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30th August 2007, 23:31	#833
sudarshansarma BHPian Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 101 Thanked: Once	Obviously the dealer was favouring other customers, probably personal friends and corporate clients. Good you kicked his butt
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31st August 2007, 12:18	#836
Vid6639 Team-BHP Support Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 17,757 Thanked: 43,809 Times View My Garage	Seen many Black DDiS swifts.
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31st August 2007, 12:34	#837
Eddy Team-BHP Support Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Singapore Posts: 9,447 Thanked: 13,755 Times	Pretty common in Delhi
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31st August 2007, 12:42	#838
benbsb29 Team-BHP Support Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Brisbane Posts: 10,020 Thanked: 13,562 Times View My Garage	Same from my end too, I have seen DDIS in black. Cant say many, but i have seen them. In particular, there is one Swift LDi, which runs as a taxi in Bangalore.
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31st August 2007, 14:44	#839
Jaggu Team-BHP Support Join Date: May 2004 Location: Bangalore Posts: 20,316 Thanked: 16,650 Times	one passes my office almost every day, black vdi
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31st August 2007, 14:48	#840
Thad E Ginathom Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Chennai Posts: 11,184 Thanked: 28,141 Times	I think a lot of people loose patience and drop out of the queue, then the orders get shuffled around. When I was still at the complaining stage, I discussed this with the sales people. They told me they would be deeply upset if I cancelled an order for a petrol Swift, but I was right in saying that cancelling a diesel was no real hardship to them, the waiting list being so long. I got "someone else's" car by shouting about the delay, and ended up with the ABS model in the right colour too. Turns out the idiot original salesman had put me down for non-ABS anyway, so all was well in the end.
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