The DIESEL experience! Swift VDi

mobike008 · 22nd May 2007, 17:09

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Originally Posted by ebmrajesh

I got my Vdi last wednesday and till now I've driven 110kms in total. i am planning to drive to chennai this weekend. Before the treip, I would cover atleast 160kms in total.

Can anybody suggest me any recommended speed limit to drive my new car in highway, especially for Swift Vdi? I used to do 150-160km/hr in my Ikon but since this is a new my (diesel)car, i am not sure about the recommended speed limit to be followed before 1000kms/first service.
pls suggest.

I suggest you keep the rpm range to 3K or lower rpm mark until 1000kms for best results on your run-in period. Also, after prolonged period of highway run do not switch of the engine without idling for 1-2 mins.

Easy way to recognize is that if you shut the engine without idling, it shuts down with a shudder, it should not happen if you idle it for the above mentioned period.

austere_sly · 22nd May 2007, 20:08

There is little vibration while starting and shutting down the engine but its not as prominent as we see in a typical diesel engine. This happens even after i have idle engine for abt 30 secs before switching off.

drifter · 22nd May 2007, 22:14

Mobike, the shudder that you experience is due to the imbalanced nature of a 3-pot motor. The swift on the other hand is a 4-pot.

Drifter

austere_sly · 22nd May 2007, 23:21

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Originally Posted by drifter

Mobike, the shudder that you experience is due to the imbalanced nature of a 3-pot motor. The swift on the other hand is a 4-pot.

Drifter

Hey this question might seems a little amateurish, but what is 3 pot or a 4 pot motor ?

Vid6639 · 22nd May 2007, 23:23

Austere, 3pot is a 3 cylinder engine whereas 4pot is a 4 cylinder engine. Accent came with a 1.5L 3 cylinder engine whereas the Swift has a 4cylinder one.

ebmrajesh · 23rd May 2007, 11:15

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Originally Posted by Jaggu

thats the infamous diesel "pitter patter" its there in my car also, funny thing after the first service it was heard in all the rev range, had attributed to diesel pump air bleed, now again it has gone back to old occasional part throttle sound. i feel its normal.

i actually notice when i drive without stereo playing, otherwise one doesnt notice also, so pump up that volume to decent levels

exactly, i hear that sound only if i use AC with no music. but if I have the windows open then its sounds as if i am driving petrol engine.

ebmrajesh · 23rd May 2007, 15:14

one more question, is it mandatory to make sure that the glow plug light goes off first and then start the engine? in the user manual they've mentioned that after the glow plug light goes off in the instrument panel only then only we have to start the engines.

at times i start the car even before the light goes off...got used to petrol engine versions

Jaggu · 23rd May 2007, 16:50

glow plug goes of in fraction of a sec, its the water in diesel line and service check light that takes longer. ideally wait for that fraction of a sec especially under cold conditions

maheshshanmugam · 23rd May 2007, 17:13

I find that there is no glow plug light in Ldi! - only water in diesel indicator and the icat light(which goes off later than the water in diesel indicator)
Is there a glow plug indicator in the Vdi?
Mahesh

austere_sly · 23rd May 2007, 23:21

There is glow plug indicator in Ldi.

I read somewhere that its is advised to start the car in neutral with clutch depressed. What's benefit of depressing the clutch ?

When i started car with depressed clutch pedal, it took longer time for battery and oil indicator lights to go off than starting without clutch pedal depressed. Any reasons ?

maheshshanmugam · 24th May 2007, 12:35

I rechecked the Ldi console after last post and found that there is a glow plug that kind of goes off in a second after switching on the ignition. In fact I had asked the sales person about the glow plug and was told that there is none! Hence didnt really look for it.

ebmrajesh · 24th May 2007, 13:48

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Originally Posted by maheshshanmugam

I find that there is no glow plug light in Ldi! - only water in diesel indicator and the icat light(which goes off later than the water in diesel indicator)
Is there a glow plug indicator in the Vdi?
Mahesh

yes there is a glow plug indicator in Vdi model. it looks like a bulb filament.

Kool_Kid · 24th May 2007, 14:38

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Originally Posted by ebmrajesh

yes there is a glow plug indicator in Vdi model. it looks like a bulb filament.

yes its there is VDI too .. but till date never seen it "glow" may be due to the warm weather of delhi .. will get it checked on the first serivce ..

nikunj_cal · 24th May 2007, 22:07

I was too eager to know my mileage figures so I tanked her up today again , I was disappointed somwhow , my car has run 225 kms on 17 litres of hi speed diesel. My average is thus around 13.25 . I am disappointed with the figures , arent the figures a bit on the low side ( 50% ac on ) ?? However i keep my car mostly at the fourth gear and occasionally on the 5 th gear !! I have been ripping her for the past 3 days , rapid accelerating ( i love to see the amazed look of the sumo's and the bolero's :-) ) but touching to max 70 and letting go as that is more than enough to get a safe distance :-) !! What are other fellow bhpians experiencing ??

nikunj_cal · 24th May 2007, 22:28

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Originally Posted by austere_sly

Also i have experienced 3-4 times engine shutting off inadvertently when shifting from higher to lower gear like 5th - 4rth , 4rth -3rd. and 3nd - 2nd...never happened when shifting from 2nd - 1st.
i am sure that it didn't happened because of very slow rpm.
Any reasons for this and what should i get checked from service station ?

Thanks

Hey austere I am facing the exact same issue but from 5th to 4th and sometimes 4th to 3rd, I am beginning to feel it is more of a clutch issue , so i always shift to neutral when coming to a dead halt and roll my car instead of switching to a lower gear , the engine never shuts off then ,Also it does not happen all the time , maybe i am not pressing my clutch properly , also what mileage figures is your Ldi returning ?? Forgive me for my over inquisitiveness

22nd May 2007, 20:08	#257
austere_sly BHPian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: New Delhi Posts: 295 Thanked: 15 Times View My Garage	There is little vibration while starting and shutting down the engine but its not as prominent as we see in a typical diesel engine. This happens even after i have idle engine for abt 30 secs before switching off.
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22nd May 2007, 22:14	#258
drifter Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Bombay Posts: 1,488 Thanked: 75 Times View My Garage	Mobike, the shudder that you experience is due to the imbalanced nature of a 3-pot motor. The swift on the other hand is a 4-pot. Drifter
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22nd May 2007, 23:23	#260
Vid6639 Team-BHP Support Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 17,750 Thanked: 43,587 Times View My Garage	Austere, 3pot is a 3 cylinder engine whereas 4pot is a 4 cylinder engine. Accent came with a 1.5L 3 cylinder engine whereas the Swift has a 4cylinder one.
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23rd May 2007, 15:14	#262
ebmrajesh BHPian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 119 Thanked: 28 Times	one more question, is it mandatory to make sure that the glow plug light goes off first and then start the engine? in the user manual they've mentioned that after the glow plug light goes off in the instrument panel only then only we have to start the engines. at times i start the car even before the light goes off...got used to petrol engine versions
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23rd May 2007, 16:50	#263
Jaggu Team-BHP Support Join Date: May 2004 Location: Bangalore Posts: 20,266 Thanked: 16,164 Times	glow plug goes of in fraction of a sec, its the water in diesel line and service check light that takes longer. ideally wait for that fraction of a sec especially under cold conditions
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23rd May 2007, 17:13	#264
maheshshanmugam BHPian Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: bangalore Posts: 32 Thanked: 2 Times	I find that there is no glow plug light in Ldi! - only water in diesel indicator and the icat light(which goes off later than the water in diesel indicator) Is there a glow plug indicator in the Vdi? Mahesh
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23rd May 2007, 23:21	#265
austere_sly BHPian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: New Delhi Posts: 295 Thanked: 15 Times View My Garage	There is glow plug indicator in Ldi. I read somewhere that its is advised to start the car in neutral with clutch depressed. What's benefit of depressing the clutch ? When i started car with depressed clutch pedal, it took longer time for battery and oil indicator lights to go off than starting without clutch pedal depressed. Any reasons ?
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24th May 2007, 12:35	#266
maheshshanmugam BHPian Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: bangalore Posts: 32 Thanked: 2 Times	my mistake I rechecked the Ldi console after last post and found that there is a glow plug that kind of goes off in a second after switching on the ignition. In fact I had asked the sales person about the glow plug and was told that there is none! Hence didnt really look for it.
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24th May 2007, 22:07	#269
nikunj_cal BHPian Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Kolkata Posts: 450 Thanked: 0 Times View My Garage	I was too eager to know my mileage figures so I tanked her up today again , I was disappointed somwhow , my car has run 225 kms on 17 litres of hi speed diesel. My average is thus around 13.25 . I am disappointed with the figures , arent the figures a bit on the low side ( 50% ac on ) ?? However i keep my car mostly at the fourth gear and occasionally on the 5 th gear !! I have been ripping her for the past 3 days , rapid accelerating ( i love to see the amazed look of the sumo's and the bolero's :-) ) but touching to max 70 and letting go as that is more than enough to get a safe distance :-) !! What are other fellow bhpians experiencing ?? Last edited by nikunj_cal : 24th May 2007 at 22:08.
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