My Maruti S-Cross 1.6L Alpha | Stage 3 Wolf (202 HP / 438 Nm) | EDIT : Sold - Pg 61

Swajith · 12th November 2019, 20:15

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Originally Posted by Dr.Naren

I got the rear suspension beam replaced under warranty.

Could you please let me know why the beam was replaced?

Dr.Naren · 12th November 2019, 20:34

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Originally Posted by Swajith

Could you please let me know why the beam was replaced?

Rear alignment was bad. Right side toe was much higher than the normal value.

Dr.Naren · 13th November 2019, 00:37

This should be the fastest S-Cross in world

Quarter mile: 14.92s

My Maruti S-Cross 1.6L Alpha | Stage 3 Wolf (202 HP / 438 Nm) | EDIT : Sold - Pg 61-img_20191113_003554.jpg

0-100: 6.7s

My Maruti S-Cross 1.6L Alpha | Stage 3 Wolf (202 HP / 438 Nm) | EDIT : Sold - Pg 61-img20191112wa0120.jpg

Not my car, this is a friend's car in Kochi which has few additional mods compared to mine

Dr.Naren · 9th December 2019, 17:02

Flat bottom steering of XL6

My Maruti S-Cross 1.6L Alpha | Stage 3 Wolf (202 HP / 438 Nm) | EDIT : Sold - Pg 61-img_20191209_170133.jpg

Hope it fits..Stay Tuned

Dr.Naren · 17th December 2019, 13:38

XL6: Airbag Module

My Maruti S-Cross 1.6L Alpha | Stage 3 Wolf (202 HP / 438 Nm) | EDIT : Sold - Pg 61-img20191217wa0041.jpg

My Maruti S-Cross 1.6L Alpha | Stage 3 Wolf (202 HP / 438 Nm) | EDIT : Sold - Pg 61-img20191217wa0042.jpg

I bought it from Boodmo, cost is around 3.5k. 12k for steering and airbag is a steal..doing the swap this weekend

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VWAllstar · 17th December 2019, 13:54

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Originally Posted by Dr.Naren

This should be the fastest S-Cross in world

Quarter mile: 14.92s

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0-100: 6.7s

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Not my car, this is a friend's car in Kochi which has few additional mods compared to mine

Experienced a remapped S Cross 1.6 at Valley Run Lonavla, Mumbai last Sunday. It was damn quick but poor chap raced against a Lamborghini.

d3mon · 17th December 2019, 14:01

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Originally Posted by Dr.Naren

XL6: Airbag Module

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I bought it from Boodmo, cost is around 3.5k. 12k for steering and airbag is a steal..doing the swap this weekend

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Why are you messing with an airbag? Sure the new steering looks really good, but you don't know what differences there are in the exact components. Even if the airbag light does not indicate any fault, the actual deployment may be faulty in case the two systems are tuned differently.

Dr.Naren · 17th December 2019, 14:18

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Originally Posted by VWAllstar

Experienced a remapped S Cross 1.6 at Valley Run Lonavla, Mumbai last Sunday. It was damn quick but poor chap raced against a Lamborghini.

Oh nice! Any idea who is the tuner ?

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Even if the airbag light does not indicate any fault, the actual deployment may be faulty in case the two systems are tuned differently.

Airbag will be changed not the airbag ECU.

BoneCollector · 17th December 2019, 14:58

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Originally Posted by Dr.Naren

Flat bottom steering of XL6

XL6: Airbag Module

I bought it from Boodmo, cost is around 3.5k. 12k for steering and airbag is a steal..doing the swap this weekend

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I'm all ears and eyes to this upgrade.

I had posted this query in XL6 spotting thread regarding the flat bottom steering (Maruti Suzuki to launch a premium MPV. Update: XL6 launched @ Rs. 9.80 lakhs) .

Dr.Naren · 17th December 2019, 15:08

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I'm all ears and eyes to this upgrade.

The swap should be successful. We had installed new swift steering and airbag in Baleno and it worked without any issues. Thanks to a known dealer who tried this out in their demo cars

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Just in case if it fails in S-Cross, I will install in Baleno..cruise control button would be dummy though

Baleno experiment link:
https://www.team-bhp.com/forum/offic...ml#post4371509 (Maruti Baleno : Official Review)

Can't wait!

My Maruti S-Cross 1.6L Alpha | Stage 3 Wolf (202 HP / 438 Nm) | EDIT : Sold - Pg 61-img20191217wa0068.jpg

Turrrb0 · 17th December 2019, 15:59

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Originally Posted by Dr.Naren

We had installed new swift steering and airbag in Baleno and it worked without any issues.

Genuine question.

How does one know it works unless it was crash tested? Seems like a bit of a gamble IMO. Although, agreed it would enhance the looks quite nicely.

Dr.Naren · 17th December 2019, 16:03

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Originally Posted by Turrrb0

Genuine question.

How does one know it works unless it was crash tested? Seems like a bit of a gamble IMO. Although, agreed it would enhance the looks quite nicely.

It's no rocket science to understand if it will work or not. We are not disturbing any sensors and Airbag ECU. Driver airbag + inflator will be changed, it just needs signal from airbag ecu to work during crash.

d3mon · 17th December 2019, 17:36

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Originally Posted by Dr.Naren

Airbag will be changed not the airbag ECU.

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Originally Posted by Dr.Naren

The swap should be successful. We had installed new swift steering and airbag in Baleno and it worked without any issues.

I can see that you are changing the airbag only, and not the ECU. The Swift to Baleno swap is not a valid reference as they are built on the same Heartect platform. They will be using the same ECUs everywhere. Even the Ertiga is built on the same platform - so it's likely it is cross compatible with Swift / Baleno.

But your S-Cross is built on a completely different platform and can have a different Airbag controller ECU. Just a quick search revealed the following 6 different ECU models with different part numbers for Swift / SX4 sold in the UK from Siemens / Continental. Do you think anybody has rated these ECUs to work with any inflators except for the combinations that were actually shipped from the factory? There's no common standard for airbag inflators like a CANBUS system - manufacturers are free to implement whatever signaling systems they wish to implement with different voltages / ground references etc.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Suzuki-SX...0AAOSwvmxcsFuX
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Suzuki-Sw...kAAOSwze9c0-W1
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Suzuki-Sw...8AAOSw~RVaCrXy
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Suzuki-SX...gAAOSwUfVb6~3-
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Suzuki-Sw...wAAOSwlTZcj4li
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Suzuki-Sw...0AAOSw~vpaAcIU

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Originally Posted by Dr.Naren

It's no rocket science to understand if it will work or not. We are not disturbing any sensors and Airbag ECU. Driver airbag + inflator will be changed, it just needs signal from airbag ecu to work during crash.

It's not rocket science, but unless you have studied every resistor and chip in the entire chain from the ECU to the inflator, you can't be sure if it will work when needed.

Dr.Naren · 17th December 2019, 19:36

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Originally Posted by d3mon

I can see that you are changing the airbag only, and not the ECU.

YES!

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The Swift to Baleno swap is not a valid reference as they are built on the same Heartect platform.

Baleno and S-Cross have airbag inflators (driver) of same family. Airbag inflators of Swift and XL6 are the same.

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Do you think anybody has rated these ECUs to work with any inflators except for the combinations that were actually shipped from the factory? There's no common standard for airbag inflators like a CANBUS system - manufacturers are free to implement whatever signaling systems they wish to implement with different voltages / ground references etc.

I will update here after the installation. We had used SDT (Suzuki Diagnostic Tool ) to check the airbag system in Baleno and it was all good. The same will be done for S-Cross too

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Dr.Naren · 28th December 2019, 13:01

Mission Fail

We faced only one issue and that is the major one as the steering won't be functional

XL6 steering has larger hole and doesn't fit tight on S-Cross column.

My Maruti S-Cross 1.6L Alpha | Stage 3 Wolf (202 HP / 438 Nm) | EDIT : Sold - Pg 61-img20191228wa0037.jpg

All the functions like audio, call buttons and cruise were working. There was no issue with airbag too as both XL6 and S-Cross have similar units from Nippon Japan.

The steering did look very good , you can also see the cruise light on

My Maruti S-Cross 1.6L Alpha | Stage 3 Wolf (202 HP / 438 Nm) | EDIT : Sold - Pg 61-img_20191228_125916.jpg

Hope it fits in my Baleno

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