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| My Black VW Vento TSI. EDIT: 9 years and 71,000 km up! Warning: This is a very long post ![]() I love cars and I love driving. Although I learnt driving and got a license as soon as I turned 18. It wasn't until 2006 that I started driving on a regular basis. This was after I got my first car a pre-owned Maruti 800. In fact, I had to get a friend to drive it home from the dealer since I could not manage the car in traffic. Here is a picture of the first ride ![]() Maybe it is the delayed start to my driving experiences, I frequently got the urge to get something new with more comforts. The first comfort that my heart said I had to have was a car with power steering. So just a year and half after I bought the 800, I landed up again in the True Value Showroom looking for an Alto (The cheapest one with PS). Instead saw a bright Red Zen and fell in love with it and bought it. ![]() 3.5 eventful years with the Zen. Got married and a baby arrived. The upgrade itch started again. This time the excuse was we needed a bigger car with a big boot because the baby would need a lot of space for her luggage. In addition, I wanted a ‘fully loaded’ car. Budget did not allow for a new car satisfying all these needs. So again landed up at the True Value dealer- Same sales man and got home the SX4. Here is a picture of the SX4 (Taken after it was serviced and polished in preparation for the sale). ![]() After 2 productive years with the SX4, after accompanying my co-brother for a bunch of test drives for his car purchase, I proclaimed-‘Do not see anything out there that will give me a reason to sell the SX4 in the near future’. 3 months later I was eating my own words. My heart had found a reason. The SX4 with its heavy steering and bulky nature was becoming less enjoyable to drive in the increasing traffic for both me as well as for my wife who had the need to drive to office more frequently. Hence the thought process started building up. First thought was: We don’t need a sedan, a big hatchback would do. Then we did a week-long trip to my home town in Kerala. 1500km of driving on 2 lane roads, in heavy traffic, in and through congested towns resulted in a heavy work out and soreness in my left leg. So I started thinking: Why not an automatic? Listed down the common assumptions (or misconceptions) with automatic cars in India and my findings after researching each one of them
So with the automatic debate settled, in summary what did I want from a new car?
I am the kind of person who does a lot of paper study before venturing out. So I spend a lot of team online (especially on team-bhp) reading official reviews, ownership reviews and comments on various AT cars under 10L. Based on that came up with the list of AT cars and made an initial shortlist
So the first list was i20, Micra, Amaze and the Polo GT TSI. After some more analysis dropped the Micra as I felt that it would not give me the peppy performance I was looking for. In addition, the boot was smaller as compared to the others. Dropped the i20 because of a few reasons
So it was between the Amaze and the polo TSI. Now the mistake I did here was that I test drove the GT TSI first. I think everything that has to be said, has been said about this car. I stepped out after the test drive with a big smile on my face. No other car that I had driven gave me that feeling. Followed this with the Amaze TD and compared to the Polo the Amaze AT felt loud and the performance seemed average. (That’s why I said earlier that I should not have driven the GT TSI first. It biased me against the Amaze). After thinking more objectively, if this was a purchase with the mind and based on practicality, the Amaze was the way to go. Very spacious, had all safety features, good boot space, big but not too big, a good 5 speed gearbox. On the downside, it did not have Paddle/Tiptronic and with medium throttle input, it seemed to be in a lower gear than what I would expect at that speed leading to higher NVH levels inside the car. The downside of the Polo was that interiors (especially back seat) was cramped and the boot was just about acceptable. The DSG Issues reported also played around in my head. But after 3 test drives from me and similar smile inducing drives by my co-brothers and a diesel loving colleague, my heart overcame the mind and I booked the Polo GT TSI on 7th October with an estimated wait time of 3 months. The problem with a heart over mind decision is that everything related to the decision should finish quickly. If it takes time, then the mind will start to take over the heart as you get more time to think and introspect. The main point thought that came up was the rear seat space and the boot space. Since I was driving an SX4, we were used to the bigger boot and good rear space. The more we thought about it, the more we felt that we may regret not getting a sedan. So I decided to see what options we have in the C segment sedan space. Again did the detailed study and analysis.
In summary, if you look at it, I was ready to choose between the Ecosport, Fiesta, City and the Vento TSI. But the first 2 were not available (I visited 3 ford dealers and none of them had an Ecosport/Fiesta AT test drive vehicle), there was no clear info on when the new City would be coming (This was somewhere in the 2nd half of October). Maybe the most practical thing to do would have been to wait for the Honda City and then take a call. As with the Polo/Amaze debate, I assume if I had done that, the practical all round choice may have been the City. But my heart had fallen for the TSI + DSG combo and hence it pretty much meant that either I stick with the Polo booking, or go ahead with the Vento TSI. A heart-heart decision. I did another analysis. The Polo GT TSI was close to 2.4 lakhs more expensive than the regular Polo Highline (On Road Bangalore, not considering any discounts). On the other hand, the Vento TSI was around 1.4 Lakhs more than the regular Vento Highline and also priced almost on par with the outgoing Vento AT. So I kind of felt that the Vento TSI was more value for money. Based on this contacted VW Whitefield and changed my booking to Shadow Blue Vento TSI on 28th October. They did have a white in stock which was a color I did not want. Was promised delivery in max 1 month. Dealership Experiences Before getting into the details of the experience with VW, would like to quickly summarize the experiences with other dealerships One thing was standard: I would call the showroom, they would ask my contact details and tell an SA would call me back immediately. This happened across all dealers I contacted. Ford
Honda
Skoda
Maruti
Renault
Volkswagen Volkswagen Whitefield: Initial interaction was fabulous. SA assigned was very knowledgeable and provided all details on the Polo GT TSI. Allowed for a longish test drive. I went multiple times with multiple people for test drive and each time there was no issue with getting the test drive. The downslide started after the switch to the Vento TSI. Below is a timeline The car was finally purchased from VW Palace Cross. Below section describes the buying experience. I first went there on Nov 4th after booking the Vento TSI in VW Whitefield. Reason I went was that only VW Palace Cross had a test drive vehicle (which was a positive point for the dealership). Although the Vento TSI was expected to be similar to the Polo I did not want to buy it without a test drive. The SA was a very pleasant person and answered all my questions and provided the test drive. I got a call back the next day from the showroom asking for feedback on the service provided and whether I had a satisfactory test drive. No other dealer had made such a call and hence was impressed with that. The SA himself followed up 2 times in the next few days to check on my decision. On]Nov 16th after the walkout from VW Whitefield, I contacted him. He had a black in stock and reiterated what I heard from VW Whitefield- No more cars till Jan. Told him to block the black and immediately went to the showroom. Took another test drive and put down the booking amount on the black TSI. While this process was happening, I noticed some talk happening regarding this Black TSI. On further questioning, my SA said that there was a confusion and both he and another SA had blocked the car around the same time. He said he will get back. On Nov 18th he called and asked if I would be interested in silver. I said no. He tried to convince me that silver is good. I politely declined. By evening he called back and confirmed the black Vento TSI to me Rest of the process was smooth. I opted for an SBI Loan as they had the option to pre-pay and part pre-pay without any penalty. A quick word on the SBI Loan process. I submitted all documents on Nov 19th and was told it will take 4-5 working days. As promised, on 25th got a call confirming the loan. The whole process of loan formalities’ were very smooth and was carried out in the SBI Kumara Park Branch. Was taken there by the Finance guy from VW. I was immediately given the cheque book, ATM Card as well as Internet Banking package to enable accessing my SB and Loan account online. Was quite impressed with the whole process. Prior to signing the loan document, I told my SA that I wanted to do the PDI and he obliged. Had a look at the car and was satisfied. Verified the VIN and got the report with the help of team-bhpian wildon. It was an Oct 30th 2013 manufactured car. Finished rest of the payment formalities and asked for delivery on 30th Nov-Saturday. On delivery day, reached the showroom by 10.30AM. My SA was also thankful to me for coming early. Said it enabled him to do due diligence to the delivery process. He explained and handed over all documents, features of the car etc… I did a quick inspection once more and took delivery. Was given a coupon for 15 liters petrol to be redeemed at a particular petrol bunk. This was in addition to the 5 liters put in at the time of delivery. Overall my experience with VW Palace Cross was the best among all the dealer-ships I visited. I had read a few negative reviews about VW Palace Cross and was apprehensive about going there. But was pleasantly surprised. It may have been due to the SA who handled my purchase. He was polite, had a pleasant personality, did the small things which I consider important right (Returning calls, being punctual, providing info that I needed, properly explaining everything during delivery, a follow up call after delivery etc…) Finally here are some pictures of the Black Beauty. Since there are enough pictures of the Vento on this forum, restricting the number of pictures. ![]() ![]() ![]() Head Unit Upgrade: The Blaupunkt Philedelphia 835 I wanted to get a reverse camera and GPS also. I did not like the Garmin Maps +Reverse Camera that was being offered. The price was Rs 30,000 and it seemed too much for a stand-alone device. In addition I had always wanted to have a good AVN system in my car. During my research read about the Blaupunkt Philedelphia 835 which was an AVN HU specifically made for VW cars by Blaupunkt. Fellow teambhpian prabhuferrari was kind enough to provide more details on this unit. So I changed the existing HU to this one. Since it was something made specifically for this range of VW cars, it was a perfect fit and it was plug and play with no other changes required. It also came with 3D version of MapMyIndia Navigation. Below are some snaps that shows the different screens. I especially love the way that the inbuilt reverse sensor data is handled and displayed on the screen. The OEM Fit. ![]() ![]() Starting Up ![]() The Home Screen ![]() The USB Screen ![]() The FM Screen ![]() A DVD Playing ![]() The GPS-MapMyIndia Screen ![]() ![]() The one I love most: The Reverse Sensor-Park Assist. Love the way the unit visually displays the data from the factory fitted sensors. Notice the small camera button to switch to camera view ![]() The Camera view: The audiable beeps from sensor are still heard. ![]() Last but not the least-The initial ownership experience Enough has been said about this wonderful TSI+DSG combination, hence I shall not get into any general descriptions. Summary of my experience so far having driven around 400KM Positives
Other small but significant things I liked (especially since they were not there on the SX4)
Negatives/Points of concern at this time
The Mileage Question
![]() I assume this will improve as I drive more. Comparison between my Pulsar 200NS and the Vento TSI I know this is a weird comparison, but I kind of noticed some very similar things
Before signing off- Some reactions from many people around me regarding this purchase
Foot Note: Just read today that all manufacturers including VW are increasing prices by Jan. I felt this may happen and that was one of the reasons why I wanted to buy this year itself. Looks like my guess was right. That’s pretty much it. If you have reached this far, thank you for your patience ![]() |
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Infractions: 0/1 (7) | re: My Black VW Vento TSI. Update: 1 year & 11000 kms report on Page 8 Let me be the first to congratulate you on, what is quite honestly, a sensible purchase ![]() Good to read the detailed write up and love how you kept the exterior pics to a minimum (yes we've all seen a vento) and took a few more shots of the Blaupunkt HU (another brilliant purchase I must say) Also liked how you wrote about your experience with every dealer involved. The mileage ought to pick up once you are used to the car and it has been run in well. Do remember to do all the regular oil and oil filter changes at regular intervals 1000, 5000, 10000 and then 20000 if I am not mistaken. Also if you want to use Synthetic, might I suggest using it only after 10000 kms, mineral oil helps with the engine break in. Cheers! ![]() |
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| re: My Black VW Vento TSI. Update: 1 year & 11000 kms report on Page 8 Congrats on your Vento TSi, its looking lovely in the black shade. I own a Vento diesel and recently had a chance to drive the TSi Polo and what a machine it is. The sports and tiptronic mode was super fun and the car went ballistic every time i pushed the throttle. Any plans on upgrading the tyres? Also why is the lighting of your Philadelphia HU green like in Skoda cars? Can you change it or is it fixed? Also i noticed a huge gap in the panel below your steering wheel? Get it rectified at first service. Drive safe. |
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| re: My Black VW Vento TSI. Update: 1 year & 11000 kms report on Page 8 Congratulations Rajeev. I believe this is the first review of Vento TSI on our forum. The Vento looks awesome in black. The TSI DSG is an awesome choice, and it’s another plus that unlike the Polo GT, VW is not limiting the colour choices for the Vento. Do keep updating the thread regularly. Did your dealer mention anything about the extended warranty? |
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Distinguished - BHPian ![]() ![]() | re: My Black VW Vento TSI. Update: 1 year & 11000 kms report on Page 8 Congratulations on the Vento 1.2 TSI DSG. For me this is the pick of the mid size AT sedans. Make sure you shift the DSG into N if you expect to be stationary for more than 15 secs. This will go a long way in preserving the DSG box. The Blaupunkt unit looks nice. Where did you buy it from? And did you get it installed at the VW dealership or was it outside? If you don't mind could you share the cost? Companies like VW and SKoda are very fussy about their warranty policy. Did you check with VW whether installing the aftermarket (though specifically made for VAG) unit affected the warranty? Petrol cars care making a comeback with the help of small turbo charged engines like the TSI and Ecoboost. Enjoy the car and drive safe! Last edited by Santoshbhat : 14th December 2013 at 08:56. |
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| re: My Black VW Vento TSI. Update: 1 year & 11000 kms report on Page 8 Congratulations on the new car! You'll love the DSG. Get an extended warranty and enjoy the car. +1 to Santosh's queries about the cost of the Blaupunkt head unit and where you got it installed. Please do let us know |
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Team-BHP Support ![]() ![]() | re: My Black VW Vento TSI. Update: 1 year & 11000 kms report on Page 8 Congrats on the TSI Rajeev. It really does look stunning in black. You will have to work very hard in maintaining this shine. The detailing section may become your favourite part of the forum ![]() I just noticed that there is a small plastic panel below the steering wheel that is a little loose. You may want to take it out, see whats underenath and then fix it back properly. |
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| re: My Black VW Vento TSI. Update: 1 year & 11000 kms report on Page 8 Many congrats Rajeev! Wishing you many happy miles with the new ride. The Blaupunkt HU looks kickass with the large touchscreen display and looks like a factory fitment. Kudos to these guys for bringing out an HU designed for the VAG cars. This must be an easy swap job for the Skoda and VW cars. Do keep us posted on the mileage figures. Quote:
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| re: My Black VW Vento TSI. Update: 1 year & 11000 kms report on Page 8 Hey Rajeev. Loved your detailed post and purchase experience. Many happy miles. I was in a similar dilemma as you, as I too was looking for an Automatic. Almost succumbed to the City AT. But, thankfully booked the Ecosport AT in June 2013. Just received the vehicle few days back and its fabulous. Due to the long wait, I was also tempted to book the Vento TSI+DSG. Had to book the Ecosport AT without a test drive, but still went ahead as I had test driven the Fiesta AT a year ago. |
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BHPian ![]() | re: My Black VW Vento TSI. Update: 1 year & 11000 kms report on Page 8 Excellent post! The Vento is typically German in it's approach to life - no nonsense, value for money and good at what it's supposed to do! Congrats on the new car and I love the way the slow but steady upgrade chain has been inked. This is a darned sight better than the old 800 eh??? (Although in all fairness, your first car will always hold a special place in your heart! - I know mine does...) Drive safe, drive sane and enjoy the first flush of a new car! ![]() Cheers |
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I contacted Blaupunkt India directly via their FB page (as recommended by a fellow bhpian who had done this). They gave the contact of the Blaupunkt India South Relationship Manager, who in turn directed me to the Karnataka Distributers. I got the install done from them. I can PM further details if needed. From what I have read, as long as there is not cutting/splicing etc involved, warranty should not be impacted. This was a simple plug and play. In addition the distributer said that he is in talks with the dealers to get them to offer this as an accessory from the dealer side itself. Hence overall I am hoping that there will not be any warranty issues. Quote:
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| re: My Black VW Vento TSI. Update: 1 year & 11000 kms report on Page 8 Congrats Rajeev on the wonderful TSI machine. Its looks even better in the black shade. Do try and keep it gleaming. Nicely written review. In one of the pics I noticed the carpet as beige, you many want to get hold of a 3D mat to avoid soiling the carpet especially in the written Hope you have a trouble free ownership. Drive Safe..Cheers!! |
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| re: My Black VW Vento TSI. Update: 1 year & 11000 kms report on Page 8 Congrats on the car and the ICE, my planning for better ICE hasn't come to pass in 3 years, you got yourself the best as soon as you got the car ![]() The TSI is the ultimate petrol automatic choice in the segment.I have to give it to VW for giving advanced tech in a petrol for a diesel crazy market. |
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BHPian | re: My Black VW Vento TSI. Update: 1 year & 11000 kms report on Page 8 Liked the detailing of your decision-making process. You've made a sensible decision at the end. Congrats on that! Good that you insisted on getting the black one itself. It looks very nice in black, especially the front-view. As you have more of city driving, and the car is shared between you and your wife, the automatic was a very good decision. And I have no good opinion about Kerala roads. Roads in Kerala are as narrow as the minds of its officials and politicians. Enjoy the ride, and I hope to read a long term review of the TSi (not yet on TBHP I guess) after a few months. |
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| re: My Black VW Vento TSI. Update: 1 year & 11000 kms report on Page 8 Rajeev, a very well written review and pretty much helpful in choosing the dealer in Bangalore! Is it Ok for you to quote the final OTR you paid for the car and details of the discounts/freebies if at all? Thanks. |
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